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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/3/2009 5:32:46 PM   
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Most benefits ALLOW junk food. WIC is specific. Usually the grocery stores are very strict. They don't give food that is not allowed.
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/3/2009 6:08:36 PM   
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Corne is right. Also, you can't buy things that aren't allowed. When you pay with EBT it will only apply the eligible total to the EBT card. If a person buys a package of toilet paper and a bag of apples only the price of the apples will be deducted from their food stamps.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/3/2009 6:34:51 PM   
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Corne and Zoebob, thanks for your clarification.

I have diabetes, so when when I was on food stamps (not WIC) back in 2007 I deliberately did not buy junk food because of the high sugar content (example: nearly 40 grams of sugar in a can of Coke). I was too busy balancing my own diet to second-guess or criticize anyone else's shopping cart.
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 5:03:08 AM   
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First, I admit I only read the first page or so of this thread. Of course, there is the usual haughty judgments, but I was encouraged to see a lot of solid, biblical attitudes.

I lost my job in the oil field earlier this year. I have put out hundreds of applications and resumes, and have received exactly two job offers. I began a telemarketing job that was offered, knowing that I despised the product and knowing I am a horrible salesperson, just to make some money to pay rent and groceries. That lasted about 1 1/2 months until my sales numbers were virtually non-existent and I had to leave.

That being said, my wife and I both decided I should just bump my school hours up to full time and live off of the grants and scholarships I am earning for having a 4.0 GPA. However, we still need a bit of help, and therefore we are using "foodstamps" (actually a debit card these days).

Quite frankly, the state is very generous. For me, my wife, and ou two children, we get about $600 per month. We need MAYBE $400 for groceries each month, and therefore have leftover to "splurge" with. As I have paid taxes for nearly 20 years, I feel absolutely no guilt getting some of it back for a short time. With our leftover, we buy things like sushi, or steaks, or lobsters, or a bunch of hamburgers to have a big family/friend BBQ. This all comes after we get the milk, bread, cheese, fruit, meat, snacks, stuff for school lunch, and whatever other "staples" we need.

Quite frankly, I would laugh at anyone who got mad at me if they saw me with my sushi or lobster in my basket. If my wife and I budget smart enough to end up with excess, we will use it to buy "luxury" items with no hesitation.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 5:23:16 AM   
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ManimalX, I like your post and your good attitude toward it all. Although it's sad you lost your oil field job, I am encouraged with how you see using food stamp benefits as your tax dollars coming back to you, and in abundance to boot.

After the "staples" are accounted for, I see nothing wrong with the occasional lobster or sushi... they're packed with protein.

I pray that the Lord will lead you to the right job to provide for your family.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 5:41:12 AM   
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ManimalX, I like your post and your good attitude toward it all. Although it's sad you lost your oil field job, I am encouraged with how you see using food stamp benefits as your tax dollars coming back to you, and in abundance to boot.

After the "staples" are accounted for, I see nothing wrong with the occasional lobster or sushi... they're packed with protein.

I pray that the Lord will lead you to the right job to provide for your family.

Rich Rodriguez
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I appreciate your words and prayers more than I can express. Thank you very much.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 6:26:01 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ManimalX

First, I admit I only read the first page or so of this thread. Of course, there is the usual haughty judgments, but I was encouraged to see a lot of solid, biblical attitudes.

I lost my job in the oil field earlier this year. I have put out hundreds of applications and resumes, and have received exactly two job offers. I began a telemarketing job that was offered, knowing that I despised the product and knowing I am a horrible salesperson, just to make some money to pay rent and groceries. That lasted about 1 1/2 months until my sales numbers were virtually non-existent and I had to leave.

That being said, my wife and I both decided I should just bump my school hours up to full time and live off of the grants and scholarships I am earning for having a 4.0 GPA. However, we still need a bit of help, and therefore we are using "foodstamps" (actually a debit card these days).

Quite frankly, the state is very generous. For me, my wife, and ou two children, we get about $600 per month. We need MAYBE $400 for groceries each month, and therefore have leftover to "splurge" with. As I have paid taxes for nearly 20 years, I feel absolutely no guilt getting some of it back for a short time. With our leftover, we buy things like sushi, or steaks, or lobsters, or a bunch of hamburgers to have a big family/friend BBQ. This all comes after we get the milk, bread, cheese, fruit, meat, snacks, stuff for school lunch, and whatever other "staples" we need.

Quite frankly, I would laugh at anyone who got mad at me if they saw me with my sushi or lobster in my basket. If my wife and I budget smart enough to end up with excess, we will use it to buy "luxury" items with no hesitation.


haha. thats rich =) hook me up with a lobster! *pinch pinch*

but yeah, if more people would budget accordingly for the month and their benefits, the foodstamps thing would probably not be looked down on as much.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 7:52:14 AM   
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haha. thats rich =) hook me up with a lobster! *pinch pinch*

but yeah, if more people would budget accordingly for the month and their benefits, the foodstamps thing would probably not be looked down on as much.


Dude... if you ever come to Colorado, we can do it up East Coast style via the Rocky Mountains... Lobster, chowder, and some dark beer. All imported from somewhere with oceanfront property, of course!

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 12:48:37 PM   
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I pray that the Lord will lead you to the right job to provide for your family.


AMEN! (And I like sushi, too!)

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 2:26:42 PM   
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I noticed in the store today that WIC allows fresh fruit and veggies now. There was a gal in fron to me with WIC who was taking advantage of a BOGO sale on fresh oranges and some bananas. I am glad that WIC allows for fresh produce now.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 2:46:58 PM   
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I always figure that if there is a WIC tag under the item, it is a 'good' choice. Not the best, but it helps to justify my choice when I put it in the cart...
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/4/2009 5:01:55 PM   
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I noticed in the store today that WIC allows fresh fruit and veggies now. There was a gal in fron to me with WIC who was taking advantage of a BOGO sale on fresh oranges and some bananas. I am glad that WIC allows for fresh produce now.


Cool beans! Good to hear!

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/6/2009 7:33:33 PM   
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In years past I probably would have, I am sorry to say. Then I stood on the other side of the fence. I lost my job through no fault of my own (fired by unethical and dishonest people who were sunday school teachers, deacons, and active in their churches...although that is another story). I have never been on food stamps but I see how it can happen very very quickly. I will never judge anyones shopping cart again!
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/7/2009 6:53:17 PM   
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In years past I probably would have, I am sorry to say. Then I stood on the other side of the fence. I lost my job through no fault of my own (fired by unethical and dishonest people who were sunday school teachers, deacons, and active in their churches...although that is another story). I have never been on food stamps but I see how it can happen very very quickly. I will never judge anyones shopping cart again!

Sorry you went through that, but that would teach us something.

I have never had to use stamps, but there were years after my first husband died when I lived on SocSec, my two children and I taking a check that was paid by us and all the others who contribute their taxes.

Furthermore, the first three months after he died, we lived on practically nothing, toward the end wondering if there would be a next meal. In fact, I got an unfair red-light ticket while driving home from church, couldn't have paid it if it had been fair, and had to go to court to contest it. All parking downtown was paid, and I wasn't sure I would have enough money to get my car out! (I didn't have enough money to take the bus down and back, and I had no one to watch my babes, so I had to take them.) Fortunately, the judge tore up my ticket at his desk and sent me home. I was able to get my car home, but I had less than $2 left afterward. Fortunately, we got our first checks (that some of you worked to help give to me) the next Tuesday.

Yes, I have enough to do to keep myself straight to worry about what others do with their money. But I can understand why those who often see how the money is spent can become concerned. I do give money once in awhile to people I know who are struggling. i always take them shopping when I do. I have often been amazed at how ALL of those I have given to (so far) have spent the money on expensive pre-made foods when fresh would have been better for them and far less expensive.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/7/2009 7:16:51 PM   
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I am such an "in my own world" type of person that I don't notice who is buying what or how.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/7/2009 11:40:58 PM   
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Can you picture how folks will put a six pack of soda on the edge of the cart so that three cans / bottles are on the 'outside'??? That way you have more space on the bottom????

I was trying to get around a cart the other day - I was in the middle of the space and needed to go to my right, and forward, and was looking at the soda coming at me; hoping not to hit it with my handle. The woman spoke up and said "I'll bet you think that is a lot of pop" and laughed a bit. At this point, I noticed that there was a bit in there, but not an over abudance. There was one of each kind, so if each person wanted a different type...

And, I will admit the family looked to be close in age between Mom-kids-baby, but I'm assuming that is the relationship. And, the clothes looked dingy, so they fit a certain profile.

And, with this thread in mind, I thought it was funny that she was confronting the appearance of what was in her cart.
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/8/2009 8:02:32 AM   
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Hmmm--maybe she's one of the people reading this thread!

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/9/2009 10:56:47 AM   
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I did some shopping yesterday for a friend who is homebound. She gave me her list and her EBT food stamp debit card thingy...whatever it's called.

Anyway...her list was made from the BOGO items and so forth, using coupons, etc. and there were a few items that I put in the cart that might have seemed "too much" to the average consumers, but when items are on sale and you need to get the most bang for the buck...you stock up when things are on sale to save money.

I didn't get any weird looks and the cashier did not say or do anything out of the ordinary when I paid for her stuff.

Just thought I'd pass on a good experience with food stamps.

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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/9/2009 1:00:21 PM   
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/10/2009 2:27:05 AM   
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Do you second guess what's in their cart?

I try not to, as it really is none of my business. Our government decided that this person needed money for food. If the government isn't going to censor what they're buying, then I'm certainly not going to do it. How would benefit either me or the other person?

And I'll admit, even though I try not to, some days are harder than others.
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/19/2009 8:00:16 AM   
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I lost my job in the oil field earlier this year. I have put out hundreds of applications and resumes, and have received exactly two job offers. I began a telemarketing job that was offered, knowing that I despised the product and knowing I am a horrible salesperson, just to make some money to pay rent and groceries. That lasted about 1 1/2 months until my sales numbers were virtually non-existent and I had to leave.


My mom has this quote that I often try to remember when I fall into the trap of judging: "But for the grace of God I go....."

For reasons that I honestly don't understand, God has chosen to allow us to go through a very hard time with my husband having been out of work for 10 months. It is very, very, hard to go from having a very decent income to nothing. Right now I am in the process of applying for food stamps and CHIP. We are doing everything we can to keep our house. I was able to get a job (after looking for 8 weeks), but it's only part-time and minimum wage. My husband had a contract job, but it only lasted 12 weeks and is now over. He sends out dozens of resumes every week, but is over-qualified or under qualified for every job. (Something else I didn't understand until we actually went through it.) I will admit, it has really changed my perspective on how the world works. It's scary to not know how you are going to feed your kids, and it's sad to not be able to provide the needs AND wants for your kids. My kids have gone without a lot of fun things this year.

I guess the bottom line is that I have learned not to judge anymore because you have no idea how those people have arrived at having to use food stamps.
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/19/2009 8:02:51 AM   
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I just wanted to add as well that because of the grace of God, we have been able to make it through. Last week we received over $275 in gift cards from our church, and there was even somebody here on Crosswalk that sent my daughter a giftcard for her birthday. God has been good!
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RE: FOOD STAMPS - Do you second guess what's in their c... - 11/21/2009 2:53:06 PM   
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I do second guess that stuff and I probably shouldn't. They're responsible to God, not me.
I've known people who have scammed the system badly, illegally and fraudulently.
I currently have a family member who is on food stamps but who is not scamming the system, but who eats better off of govt money than I do off my paycheck....partially because my own faulty eating habits though.

I believe the EBT cards used in California keep track of what's being purchased so that the money isn't used for non-food items. I think they can't even use those cards for toilet paper.

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