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Elena1030 -> Legend of the Seeker (10/23/2009 1:50:30 PM)

Have you watched season 1? Going to watch season 2?

Have you read the books? What do you think about the differences between the books and the TV series?



ManimalX -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/24/2009 7:19:39 AM)

I only have time for a brief answer, but that answer is: yes, I watched season 1 and highly enjoyed it. The cinematography is gorgeous, the special effects are very well done, the acting is decent, and the stories are interesting.

I read the first 3 books years ago when they came out, but didn't particularly care for the writing after a while. I remember enjoying the 1st book, Wizard's First Rule quite a bit, and still quote the 1st rule to people sometimes (Wizard's first rule: people are stupid and willfully deceived). I don't remember enough to compare the TV series to the books.

Looking forward to the second season, though slightly less than I am looking forward to the next season of Merlin.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/24/2009 11:11:40 AM)

I only recently stumbled on this show, but I REALLY like it. I haven't read the books, so I can't compare, but I got inspired to (someday) read the books after seeing the show.



doinkdom -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/26/2009 2:57:35 PM)

I've watched the show a few times...and it was ok. My husband watched a few episodes last night and he liked it more than I did.



Auben -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/27/2009 10:29:10 AM)

Oh, did they bring this back? We watched season 1 over the summer and figured it got canceled. Now I have to check Hulu.



PHmosh1 -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/28/2009 7:44:46 AM)

I have read all the books, and I enjoyed them much more than the bits and pieces of the show that I've seen. I can't help but compare what I saw to the horror that is the SciFi Channel. [&:]

I think I'll stay away from this one.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/31/2009 2:36:33 PM)

Warning this post may have spoilers if you've never seen the show.


I discoverd the show several weeks ago when I couldn't sleep(it's on at like 1 at night here, or should I say morning), so I kind of got started in the middle of the epic. Some wonderful person downladed all the episodes on YouTube, and another wonderful person organized them all, so the last two days, I've been having a party of one (you know, all by myself) Legend of the Seeker marathon. When you see things starting from the first episode everything makes a lot more sense. I started at episode 1 part one, and I've gone all the way through episode 14 part 4.


ETA, I'm done with all of season one now.

Things I like

The gorgeous scenery

The costuming (I wouldn't mind having a wedding dress loosely based on Kahlan's white dress--similar in pattern, but with several changes....including the skirt not being in pieces of course).

The romantic tension of Richard and Kahlan having a love for each other that they can never consummate...it's neat in a way, because you see them showing love for each other in other subtle ways.

The way Richard, Kahlan and Zed willingly take on their task.

The interesting supporting characters in each episode...loved the episode with that spoiled princess and the sweet servant girl.

The (IMO) good acting.

The fight of good vs. evil.

It amazed me, too, how much of it parelellls to the Bible (the evil King killing firstborn sons when the Seeker was to be born--remind you of Herod, anyone?/good conquering evil even when the good are small in number and the evil are large in number/bearing trials/not betraying the good even when tortured).

I admire Kahlan's ability to "rough it." I'm not so good at that, though this show is almost inspiring me....the campfires at least seem romantic, lol

Things I don't like so much

After using his sword, Richard never cleans it, before putting it back in the scabbard. In ancient warfare, that would be a huge no no.

In that world, while, thankfully it's not blatant, it's obvious that relations outside of marriage aren't a big deal (Even the fact that Richard and Kahlan are forbidden from that isn't related to marriage, although they also couldn't get married).

Some of the episodes (like the one in the crypt) make me feel slightly nervous, i.e. almost on occultish feel.

Richard and Kahlan can be a little too impuslive (i.e. the innocent man's death, and the episode where they killed the D'haran soldier, but that soldier actually wante to kill Darken Rahl. I would think they would have been more perceptive in the episode where they thought that guy that was staying with Kahlan's friend was part of the resistance. I knew right away that he was a traitor. Then again, I guess it's easier for the viewer to see that.[:D]

Things I wonder about

If Richard and Kahlan's consummating their love wold cause him to be enslaved to her forever, and that's why they can't consummate their love, I wonder why they can still kiss, without that affect?

In the episode where Zed proves he isn't that one woman's son's father, I don't understand why he had to reveal to Kahlan that he was Richard's grandfather in the same moment. Those two things weren't related.


Things I wonder about regarding the book vs. TV show...

I haven't read the books, but I read a review, which states that at some point in the books Richard and Kahlan do marry. So, I wonder if in the books, their love is not forbidden..IF YOU'VE READ THE BOOKS, DON'T TELL ME THOUGH, because I plan to read the books. I need to order them from the bookstore.

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More random thoughts

I am starting to have a mild (pretendish) crush on Richard[:D]

Craig Horner (Richard) and Bridget ___________(Kahlan)..have such good chemistry on screen, and neither are married........I wonder if they are or were an item in real life?

I kind of feel sorry for Anna...here it was thought since their babyhood that she and Richard would marry..........but she seems understanding about it too. And when Darken Rahl is conquered will that barrier be lifted? I know the town Richard is from is nice, but I'm not so sure being stuck behind a barrier would be nice.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (10/31/2009 10:56:55 PM)

Since I can only find this show at 1 am where I live I thought it was an old show or a cable tv show..but then I just saw an abc logo on their main site...and season 2 starts Nov. 10 of this year, so it can't be all that old. I'm a little confused (and couldn't figure it out from the site). Can someone help me out here? If it is a prime time show on regular TV, I wonder why I never came across it channel surfing or heard it advertised, not even once.

I find it odd the show wasn't more advertised.

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Just saw interviews for season 2......The main lord sith (sorry forgot her name) joins Richard and Kahlan. [:)] But there is some indication that Richard gets the physicaly satisfaction that he can't get from Kahlan from her. [:'(]

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I'm kind of dissapointed season 2 brings more troubles, instead of a season of peace, but I guess the show wouldn't last real long the first way.

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I hope I don't end of just talking to myself in here.[&:]



ManimalX -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/2/2009 8:21:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OneOfHisJewels

Warning this post may have spoilers if you've never seen the show.


I discoverd the show several weeks ago when I couldn't sleep(it's on at like 1 at night here, or should I say morning), so I kind of got started in the middle of the epic. Some wonderful person downladed all the episodes on YouTube, and another wonderful person organized them all, so the last two days, I've been having a party of one (you know, all by myself) Legend of the Seeker marathon. When you see things starting from the first episode everything makes a lot more sense. I started at episode 1 part one, and I've gone all the way through episode 14 part 4.


ETA, I'm done with all of season one now.

Things I like

The gorgeous scenery

The costuming (I wouldn't mind having a wedding dress loosely based on Kahlan's white dress--similar in pattern, but with several changes....including the skirt not being in pieces of course).

The romantic tension of Richard and Kahlan having a love for each other that they can never consummate...it's neat in a way, because you see them showing love for each other in other subtle ways.

The way Richard, Kahlan and Zed willingly take on their task.

The interesting supporting characters in each episode...loved the episode with that spoiled princess and the sweet servant girl.

The (IMO) good acting.

The fight of good vs. evil.

It amazed me, too, how much of it parelellls to the Bible (the evil King killing firstborn sons when the Seeker was to be born--remind you of Herod, anyone?/good conquering evil even when the good are small in number and the evil are large in number/bearing trials/not betraying the good even when tortured).

I admire Kahlan's ability to "rough it." I'm not so good at that, though this show is almost inspiring me....the campfires at least seem romantic, lol

Things I don't like so much

After using his sword, Richard never cleans it, before putting it back in the scabbard. In ancient warfare, that would be a huge no no.

In that world, while, thankfully it's not blatant, it's obvious that relations outside of marriage aren't a big deal (Even the fact that Richard and Kahlan are forbidden from that isn't related to marriage, although they also couldn't get married).

Some of the episodes (like the one in the crypt) make me feel slightly nervous, i.e. almost on occultish feel.

Richard and Kahlan can be a little too impuslive (i.e. the innocent man's death, and the episode where they killed the D'haran soldier, but that soldier actually wante to kill Darken Rahl. I would think they would have been more perceptive in the episode where they thought that guy that was staying with Kahlan's friend was part of the resistance. I knew right away that he was a traitor. Then again, I guess it's easier for the viewer to see that.[:D]

Things I wonder about

If Richard and Kahlan's consummating their love wold cause him to be enslaved to her forever, and that's why they can't consummate their love, I wonder why they can still kiss, without that affect?

In the episode where Zed proves he isn't that one woman's son's father, I don't understand why he had to reveal to Kahlan that he was Richard's grandfather in the same moment. Those two things weren't related.


Things I wonder about regarding the book vs. TV show...

I haven't read the books, but I read a review, which states that at some point in the books Richard and Kahlan do marry. So, I wonder if in the books, their love is not forbidden..IF YOU'VE READ THE BOOKS, DON'T TELL ME THOUGH, because I plan to read the books. I need to order them from the bookstore.



Hey, those are some great insights!

I don't have time to address every point, but regarding "kissing", the idea is that actual sexual intercourse and orgasm would cause Kahlan to lose control of her power and Confess her lover.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/2/2009 12:35:02 PM)

Ok, thanks Manimax, for explaining that.

Thanks for posting too. I thought this thread was dying.



ManimalX -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/3/2009 3:46:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: OneOfHisJewels

Ok, thanks Manimax, for explaining that.

Thanks for posting too. I thought this thread was dying.


No problemo!

I think it is a smart, well acted, well scripted, well filmed series. Season 2 should be fun.

And, FWIW, when series are between seasons, their threads here usually die pretty quickly.



Elena1030 -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/4/2009 4:04:23 PM)

I've not forgotten this thread, OOHJ! Just have some other things going on (NaNoWriMo and listening to LotR on CD).

I'll have more thoughts when I see season 2.

Really good insights and questions, though. Thanks for posting them. Definitely will help me get more out of LotS.


I must say this, though: the SFX of the squishy slashes by the blades into flesh and such are really vivid, which is supposed to be good, I guess, but it gets old and tiresome and kinda icky to me after a while. It's most apparent when I'm listening to the DVDs on my laptop w/ earbuds. Guess that means my 'puter has really good sound! [8D]



Anyone caught season 2 yet? Has it aired?



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/4/2009 10:17:58 PM)

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he SFX of the squishy slashes by the blades into flesh and such are really vivid, which is supposed to be good, I guess, but it gets old and tiresome and kinda icky to me after a while.


Yeah, I kind of get tired of people dying. But oh well. But watching people die in fantasy shows isn't as bad as watching them die on law and order and CSI and all that. I'm actually taking a break from all those shows because I watched so many they got me depressed. In a fantasy show I'm more able to remind myself that it is fake.


I bought the first two books today! And I'm in the middle of chapter 6. So far, I don't find the TV series AS annoyingly off as some on the internet have complained. The TV series is just much more condensed, and the book has far more detail. Just think of the TV series as the "Wish Bone" version of the story. [:D]

Elana, so glad you came back! Didn't mean to pester you in my pm, but was excited about this thread. In fact I was actually going to start a LOTS thread, but you beat me to it.[:D]


I always liked Narnia, but never got in to Lord of the Rings, but this series is inspiring me to do so.

Oh, Elana, I think season 2 debut is Nov 8 or 9.



rawr.ben -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/6/2009 10:39:25 PM)

I loooved season 1, which is surprising because I am really not a fan of middle-earth kind of fantasy stories.

Kahlan is just too gorgeous to pass up. :)



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/6/2009 11:41:48 PM)

Kahlan is pretty, isn't she, Ben?

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BOOK SPOILER ALERT


Someone on another forum says that later into the book(s), Richard actually kicks children so hard that they bite their tongues out. I'm only in ch.6 of book one and Richard has been nice so far, but that would be horrible[:(]. I hope it doesn't happen.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/12/2009 12:22:53 AM)

Regarding words in white above:
Ok, Richard only did that to a horrid bratty princess...and her tongue didn't fall out. Sorry, tried to make these white too...computer didn't let me.

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Season 2 episode 1 was a little um......disturbing....

I don't like the fact that there is an "underwold" like a parellel to hell..but there is no parellel to heaven.

Although I'm now in book2 and they are at least speaking of a "creator."

Terry Goodkind's picture in the back of the books looks a little creepy. I hope he isn't into some weird (i.e. Satanic) things.

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Book Spoiler Alert

I like the book and I like the show, but I think the show should have kept the mud people and the dragon Scarlet. Those were both essential parts of the story. OTOH, I think the whole MordSith thing is somewhat cleaned up for the show (which is good), and I think the whole Princess Violet/companion Rachel story was actually BETTER developed on the show.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/13/2009 3:26:05 AM)

Ok, I'm on book 2. I will finish it to see what happens, but no way am I reading the next 10 books...it's getting too gory and tragic. I wish Goodkind would have stopped at one book....and left at a happy ending.[&:]



Elena1030 -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/14/2009 2:09:58 AM)

OOHJ,

There's an interesting profile of Terry Goodkind on the DVD special features for season 1. Will give you some insight into who he is and what he's all about. He seems kinda spiritual... but I don't know that he's a Christian. (I truly have no idea.)

Not sure what's up with his making the story so long 'n' kooky over the course of the books. I looked up the synopses on Wikipedia, and following the storylines was a dizzying prospect. I think I might like the show better! And that's kinda sad, really.

So... went to imdb.com to see if the first ep of season 2 is available to watch online. Not yet. At least not via that site. Oh well. Soon, I guess. Soon.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/14/2009 1:36:15 PM)

Elana season 2 episode 1 is on youtube. It is in parts but it is there.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/16/2009 9:29:27 PM)

Ok, I finished book 2...the middle and end weren't as gross as the beginning.....I feel torn I want to know what happens to Richard and Kahlan ultimately...but there is also a dark feel to these books.....

I did watch epi. 1 of season 2...some of it was creepy too but some good. Again, I really wish his world had a heaven as well as an underworld.

P.S. At least in the books there seems to be a place for the "good spirits" in the underworld. In the movie all of the underworld seems hell-ish.



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/17/2009 8:39:57 PM)

Just read an interview with Craig Horner. He thinks they should have kept Scarlet the dragon too!

I succumbed. I decided to finish the series. I think I'll stay away from this TYPE of book for a while. I bought LOTR for next. That should be a little more light.

I don't know why Goodkind has such an aversion to chapter titles, a table of contents and an index.[&:][&:]



GlassMoonWaltzes -> RE: Legend of the Seeker (11/23/2009 2:39:01 AM)

I guess I'm talking to myself in here...but that's ok...I guess it's like my legend of the seeker blog..

Just watched season 2 episode 3..I actually liked it..it was a good explanation of why the mord siths turn out how they do.......it was similar to how it was explained in the books, but by a different person and a different place. I'm honestly glad some of the super gruesome stuff (like all the rape and almost rape)
from the books is being left out of the show. I wonder if Richard will go to the Palace of the Prophets at all? I'm kind of ambivilent, because I really didn't like that part of the book (except I like Gratch)...I think the TV show is actually making Richard a stronger character than in the book...in the books he was often a victim...and sometimes whiny......


In the preface of the first book Terry Goodkind thanks his friend Rachel Kahlandt...I bet he named Rachel and Kahlan after her.

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p.s. my current avatar is perfect for this thread. Note for when I change it : If you are reading the avatar after I changed it, it was an avatar of Richard and Kahlan.



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