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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/28/2009 5:59:31 PM   
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As in unbecoming for a son or daughter of God.

Why do we not cuss?

Why do we find provocatively dressed brothers & sisters inappropriate anywhere?

Of course, pretending to be something that we are not is not right. But, for example to dress modestly is good as there is less chance we cause someone to lust, cause envy, or similar. the vegetables / meat that apostle Paul was talking about...

Eck. Does that make sense?
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/28/2009 6:11:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jhuperetes

As in unbecoming for a son or daughter of God.

Why do we not cuss?

Why do we find provocatively dressed brothers & sisters inappropriate anywhere?

Of course, pretending to be something that we are not is not right. But, for example to dress modestly is good as there is less chance we cause someone to lust, cause envy, or similar. the vegetables / meat that apostle Paul was talking about...

Eck. Does that make sense?


While your definition of modesty is true, I believe in the Bible that modesty also means not dressing too expensively.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/28/2009 7:46:09 PM   
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Perhaps you've heard about the grizzled old cowboy who attended a large Baptist Church in the only "duds" he had. After the service the Pastor told him he should ask God about what was proper attire for that church. The old cowboy returned to church the next Sunday wearing the same clothes. Following the service the pastor said to him, "I thought I told you to ask God what was proper to wear to church."
"I did," the old cowboy responded, "But God said He didn't know. He ain't never been here."

Very funny and sad at the same time.


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While your definition of modesty is true, I believe in the Bible that modesty also means not dressing too expensively.

I used to attend a church where people dressed to the nines every week - men and women. I never really *noticed* it until one week when I was running pretty late and ended up sitting in the back, where I was in a position to observe all the glitz and glitter of waaaaaaay too much flashy jewelry. I was so offended by the proud display of wealth going on that I never went back. Good grief - were those people dressing for church to praise God or are they attending a Hollywood cocktail party?

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/28/2009 9:27:07 PM   
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Agreed.

I did not think anyone was advocating that. I think a clean pair pants, and a shirt is well suited for church.

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While your definition of modesty is true, I believe in the Bible that modesty also means not dressing too expensively.
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/28/2009 9:57:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jhuperetes

As in unbecoming for a son or daughter of God.

Why do we not cuss?

Why do we find provocatively dressed brothers & sisters inappropriate anywhere?

Of course, pretending to be something that we are not is not right. But, for example to dress modestly is good as there is less chance we cause someone to lust, cause envy, or similar. the vegetables / meat that apostle Paul was talking about...

Eck. Does that make sense?
Yes it does, and thank you. When I read it the first few times, I thought you were saying something completely different. I appreciate the clarification.


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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 8:01:59 AM   
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I've skimmed the thread so if what I'm about to say has already been mentioned I apologize in advance, but the thought comes to me: I wonder how many people who don't mind wearing jeans to church would never wear jeans to a funeral. I'm not saying wearing jeans to church is wrong, but it seems to me that if we can show our respect for the dead by dressing up for a funeral, we should be even more likely to dress up to go and worship the living God of the Universe.

Just my way of stirring the pot, so to speak.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 9:01:22 AM   
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greatdivide46, THAT was awesome!
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 9:43:32 AM   
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ORIGINAL: greatdivide46

I've skimmed the thread so if what I'm about to say has already been mentioned I apologize in advance, but the thought comes to me: I wonder how many people who don't mind wearing jeans to church would never wear jeans to a funeral. I'm not saying wearing jeans to church is wrong, but it seems to me that if we can show our respect for the dead by dressing up for a funeral, we should be even more likely to dress up to go and worship the living God of the Universe.

Just my way of stirring the pot, so to speak.
Interesting that you would bring that up, greadivide46!


. . . Out here in the Wild, Wild West, it actually could be showing respect to wear jeans to a funeral. Many people out here are ranchers, cowboys, etc.; and all they've ever worn are jeans. I've known of some funerals where people were even requested to wear jeans.

When my late husband died (who wasn't a rancher; but definitely a cowboy-at-heart), I remember seeing several people in jeans (their choice) at the service. It didn't bother me one bit; and in fact, I would probably have found it strange to see them wearing anything else, given who they were.

I do remember I actually had, "Please dress to your comfort" (or similar wording) written in the newspaper notice that gave the specifics of the service." Some people were dressed up a bit, but they weren't "that dressed up". Me? Out of everyone there, I was probably the one most likely out-of-place . . . I wore a floor-length sage-green lace, flowy gown. That's really not "funeral-wear" no matter where the funeral is taking place.

But, I specifically wore that dress because it was my late husbands most very favorite dress of mine. In fact, per his request, I also wore it on the day of our wedding 10 months earlier.

I did struggle a bit with, "What will people think?" But I put that aside and wore the dress to the memorial service; in honor and in memory of CS.

I don't believe anyone was offended. Some people who didn't know me very well probably thought I was nuts; but then many people who do know me very well would probably confirm that I am.



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Jeans at a funeral. There were at least two pastors at my husband memorial service; one of them wore casual dress pants and a button down shirt; but then that's what he always wear anyway. The other pastor (my pastor) wore his usual: jeans.

In fact, in the >9 years that I've known my pastor, I have never seen him not wear jeans; regardless of what day of the week or time of day it is, regardless of where I saw him and regardless of whether my seeing him at that moment was planned or just a "run into" type situation.




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Showing respect via clothing ("dressing up") s a human thing. I'm not saying it's wrong or that it's not necessary. But it isn't a spirital mandate. To make it spiritual only creates more dogma.

In all honesty, however, the other day as I was walking around town and doing errands, I was thinking about his thread. I do dress up for job interviews and/or for the first time I meet a client. I do try to dress business casual throughout the workweek because it seems more professional.

I do usually ask if there's a dress code when attending certain functions; and that even does include churches that I visit (regardless of the reason for the visit). Actually, I usually don't ask; I just go with "somewhat dressy" . . . but mostly because that's what feels comfortable to me. (But around here, again, it's not at all unusual to see the majority of the congregation in jeans).





However. While my personal preference is to somewhat dress up for church, it is my preference only. Whether I am wearing a skirt or jeans, my heart at any given moment, is going to be what Our Lord is looking at. The clothing is for me; and yes, to a point, for other people (i.e., asking what to wear when visiting a church). I may be showing respect to a group of people through how I cover my body, but the respect I show to Our Lord is not at all dependent on that; the respect I show to Our Lord comes from an internal source and nothing covering my body is going to increase nor diminish who I am, inside.


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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 10:25:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: greatdivide46

I've skimmed the thread so if what I'm about to say has already been mentioned I apologize in advance, but the thought comes to me: I wonder how many people who don't mind wearing jeans to church would never wear jeans to a funeral. I'm not saying wearing jeans to church is wrong, but it seems to me that if we can show our respect for the dead by dressing up for a funeral, we should be even more likely to dress up to go and worship the living God of the Universe.

Just my way of stirring the pot, so to speak.

Actually, even family members of the deceased seldom wear suits & ties to funerals around here and hardly any of the guests. Times have changed, it's not like it was 20-40 years ago when we were young.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 10:57:11 AM   
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I'm interested in hearing what denomination y'all are.

I'm wondering if that plays a factor in what someone wears to church.

If you feel comfortable doing so, please tell me your denomination and how you dress when you go to church (why you dress the way you do). Also if you're from the U.S., please tell me what part of the country you're from; and if you're from another country, please list that as well.


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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 11:46:24 AM   
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I used to attend a church where people dressed to the nines every week - men and women. I never really *noticed* it until one week when I was running pretty late and ended up sitting in the back, where I was in a position to observe all the glitz and glitter of waaaaaaay too much flashy jewelry. I was so offended by the proud display of wealth going on that I never went back. Good grief - were those people dressing for church to praise God or are they attending a Hollywood cocktail party?


Dressing up at church came with the Industrialization of America.

I used to attend the AoG when I was young.
I always dressed the best I could and sat up front.

But one night I came in from the hay fields.
I didn't have time to change so I came straight to
church from the fields. As you know, bucking hay
by hand makes you a bit dusty, etc. The back of
my shirt was torn so when I came in I slipped in
to the very back pew because my shirt was torn.

I was a bit disappointed in the responses I received.
Instead of appreciating my faithfulness to come no
matter what, my dress was in question. It sure put
a new perspective in the attitude for me.

I don't care what any one wears if it is clean and descent.
And clean doesn't necessarily have to be spotless white.

I still don't hold to shorts of any kind.
And revealing clothes are inappropriate.
Christians should be modest no matter where they are.

< Message edited by Lapidoth -- 10/29/2009 11:57:04 AM >


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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 12:14:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: greatdivide46

I've skimmed the thread so if what I'm about to say has already been mentioned I apologize in advance, but the thought comes to me: I wonder how many people who don't mind wearing jeans to church would never wear jeans to a funeral. I'm not saying wearing jeans to church is wrong, but it seems to me that if we can show our respect for the dead by dressing up for a funeral, we should be even more likely to dress up to go and worship the living God of the Universe.

Just my way of stirring the pot, so to speak.

This is a good question and to be honest the last funeral I went to was my grandmother's in 2001 and I wore what my aunt (her eldest daughter) requested of me. A dress with hose and heels. It's not something I would normally wear, but I acquiesed to the matriarch of the family as did everyone else.

I don't dress up for anything unless I feel comfortable. To do anything else would be a lie. There are times when I'm more comfortable in a nice dress and heels and there are times I'm more comfortable in jeans.

I do the same for church. Somedays I wear jeans and somedays I wear a nice skirt.

And to compare it to a funeral is kind of...odd. A funeral is a way to pay respects to the deceased and to offer moral support to remaining family members. I don't think the deceased cares one iota as to what you're wearing, and the family is dealing with their own emotions that they wouldn't notice you wearing a potato sack.

It's the naysayers that you have to watch out for and believe me...they're out there.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 3:00:35 PM   
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I'm like you Tink,
most Saturdays I wear jeans to church,
but sometimes I feel like putting on a pair
of slacks and nicer shirt.

The others are the same way, guess maybe
because I'm the pastor.............LOL

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 3:52:02 PM   
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I don't think the deceased cares one iota as to what you're wearing, and the family is dealing with their own emotions that they wouldn't notice you wearing a potato sack.

I don't think my brother cared what anyone wore to his funeral. My sister, on the other hand, is still complaining about a dress worn by one of his friends to his funeral 23 years ago

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 4:05:43 PM   
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Growing up I wore "Sunday Best" whatever that meant in the 70's.

When my husband was part of a church staff, I dressed "sharp casual" for the most part - never jeans to church. There was an expectation of staff and their families to dress more professionally.

Now...with hosting a house church...these people should be thankful I don't show up on Sunday mornings in my jammies.

Everyone in our community wears jean for the most part. Actually, some of us can't afford jeans

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 6:32:16 PM   
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I'm interested in hearing what denomination y'all are.

I'm wondering if that plays a factor in what someone wears to church.

If you feel comfortable doing so, please tell me your denomination and how you dress when you go to church (why you dress the way you do). Also if you're from the U.S., please tell me what part of the country you're from; and if you're from another country, please list that as well.

I am Messianic, and when I attend shul (or synagogue may be more familiar to readers), I wear jeans sometimes (more often since I lost 50 pounds) with the appropriate tops and dress slacks at other times with the appropriate top. I dress up to attend maybe once or twice a year, and when I do, everyone asks me why I did. Today, I am working in a church, where I am the admin. I am wearing blue jeans and a blue jeans over-blouse with a nice red shirt underneath.

(The pastor of the church I work for is wearing so much green today that I asked him if he was turning into a gigantic leprechaun! -- oh, and he's wearing either jeans or casual pants. I didn't look.)

I wear what I wear to shul in the Pacific Northwest of the U.S.A. because that's what I wear! No particular reason -- that is just the way I dress. When I go to work, I wear them; when I shop, play, go to a movie, etc. I don't like dress-up clothes, and they tend to stay in the back of my closet, where I never see them or think of them.

When I pray, the only special clothing I may wear in my home is a tallit, and I don't always wear that. I do always wear tzitzit, though.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 7:44:06 PM   
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I didn't realize women wear tallit and the tzitzit.
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 8:52:41 PM   
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I don't wear a tallit outside of my home, but I wear tzitzit during the day, wherever I go, as some women have through the ages, as stated in rabbinic writings re the rabbis' wives. Modernly, there have been questions about women wearing tzitzit, but that is being revisited by Orthodox to Reformed. Modernly, the big questions seems to be what color.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 8:59:32 PM   
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Got it. I have been the shabbos goy for some of my friends.
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/29/2009 9:12:31 PM   
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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/30/2009 8:07:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Eutychus

Actually, even family members of the deceased seldom wear suits & ties to funerals around here and hardly any of the guests. Times have changed, it's not like it was 20-40 years ago when we were young.

The only reason I brought this up is because as a pastor in Arkansas for 11 years -- 1995-2006, I don't believe I ever saw anyone wear jeans to a funeral. In fact, one member of the church I served at always wore jeans to church, but the only time he and I attended a funeral together he wore a suit and tie. Only time I ever saw him in a suit and tie. Maybe someone asked him to, I don't know. I've only been to one funeral here in Southern Alabama and no one was wearing jeans.

But like I said, I don't think it's wrong to wear jeans to a funeral and WhiteRoseBlessing's descriptions of funerals in the "wild, wild west" actually made me nostalgic since I grew up in ranching country in Montana and know very well the kind of attire people wear there (even to a funeral).

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/30/2009 8:13:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhiteRoseBlessings

I'm interested in hearing what denomination y'all are.

I'm wondering if that plays a factor in what someone wears to church.

If you feel comfortable doing so, please tell me your denomination and how you dress when you go to church (why you dress the way you do). Also if you're from the U.S., please tell me what part of the country you're from; and if you're from another country, please list that as well.


My denominational background is rather eclectic. I grew up in the Episcopal church. Belonged to an Independent Christian Church during my teen years, worshipped at military chapels during my 26 years in the Army, belonged to a Southern Baptist Church, a Presbyterian Church (PCUSA), served as pastor at an Independent Christian Church for 10 years and am currently a member of a Southern Baptist Church.

Clothing as never been a issue for me. Personally, I prefer to dress up for church, but recently haven't been doing that much. In fact, I actually wore jeans to church last Wednesday for prayer meeting.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/30/2009 1:24:05 PM   
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Got it. I have been the shabbos goy for some of my friends.

It occurs to me! What I wrote is not exactly the truth! I DO wear a tallit katan under my clothes. I don't think of it as a tallit! I just don't wear tallit gadol outside my house. Sorry!

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/30/2009 3:28:58 PM   
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Maybe dress depends on whether or not one bends the knee? lol.

I prefer praying in jeans than a suit.
And I prefer praying in my jamas over that.

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RE: Does anyone else feel strange wearing jeans to Sund... - 10/30/2009 3:36:41 PM   
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Ah! I thought of the tallit as the shawl, as in the tallit gadol. I know some consider that to be inappropriate for women to wear.

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ORIGINAL: jhuperetes
Got it. I have been the shabbos goy for some of my friends.

It occurs to me! What I wrote is not exactly the truth! I DO wear a tallit katan under my clothes. I don't think of it as a tallit! I just don't wear tallit gadol outside my house. Sorry!
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