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nvidia tesla? - 10/16/2009 10:52:13 PM
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hisson1
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With running a ministry which is in need of a very powerful computer system, I've been looking around for top of the line systems. I've come across the Nvidia Tesla. Is there anyone familiar with these systems, or has heard about them in detail(besides their adds.) From what I've read so far, if they're just half of what they say they're smoke most other systems out.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/17/2009 2:34:05 PM
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nVidia's Tesla line is a series of graphics cards, not whole computing systems, and they're meant for high-end professional workstations doing 3D design and animation, mathematical simulations and other situations where both speed and exceptional reliability (in calculations, not just uptime) are required. Unless your ministry is going to be using the specific software that is designed to take advantage of these card's GPGPU abilities, then they're not likely to be faster for whatever you're doing, let alone worth the thousands of dollars you'd spend. The cheapest Tesla graphics card is $1,000+, and the highest end is selling for nearly $10,000 (if the sole listing I could find is real). That's just the card mind you, not the complete PC you'd need to take advantage of the card's processing ability.
Computing power has become much cheaper than it used to be, but it's not really raw power you want to be spending your money on. When choosing the right PC for important work it's far more important to consider things like data backup, storage, interface peripherals (like mouse, keyboard, monitor(s), pen & tablet, printer, etc.), software and other things than it is to consider the processor and graphics card. What specific type of work you'll be using the computer for can drastically change what areas, specifically, you'll want to spend the most money on.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/17/2009 5:02:42 PM
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Perhaps if you told us what it is that you're doing, we could be of more assistance.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/17/2009 8:54:30 PM
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ORIGINAL: hisson1
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Our computers will be used for everything involved in operating a large corporation may do. Shipping and receiving; transportation computations and routing; equipment allocation, tracking, repairs and purchasing; book keeping and accounting; plus much more concerning the Biblical side.
As I consider all these, I can see that more than one system will be used to cover all these areas and multiple less costly units would be much better, networked to a central server to keep track of it all. I'm not much of a techie, though I'm a neo either, but with all I've to take care of, computer selection and connections are something I'll have to have assistance with. Any good high end systems that you'd recommend. High end because V.C.M. isn't going to be your everyday ministry, eventually it'll span the globe and more intense than wall street's top 50 just before the closing bell 
Most of what you want to do doesn't require high end equipment, (well, not comparatively speaking), but what it does require is specialized software, and people knowledgeable about how to set up systems. You don't need advice on what computers to buy, you need too be praying for a person who can run your IT department, or at least someone who knows enough to be able to get all the specific information about your needs and advise you on what software and hardware to get.
As for future plans, don't buy a powerful system based on what your expectations are for a few years down the line. The workstation needs you'll have for running software locally will likely be small anyway, and any servers you need will likely be leased from a hosting company (and even if you do own your own servers, they're not the same type of computers you use as a workstation). Not only that, but in 3 years the price you'll pay for the equivalent of a high-end system will be dramtically lower. It's not unusual for an $800 machine to easily outclass a $1,500 machine from 3 years ago, and a $1,500 machine of today can usually best a $4,000 machine from 3 years ago, if you could have even built an equivalent machine 3 years ago at any cost.
EDIT: It's also worth noting that for some tasks even old, relatively low-end computers work just fine. Book keeping and accounting for a small business, or equivalent, can be run just as easily on a 6 or 7 year old computer as it can on a brand new one.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/17/2009 9:17:39 PM
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Most of what you want to do doesn't require high end equipment, (well, not comparatively speaking), but what it does require is specialized software, and people knowledgeable about how to set up systems. You don't need advice on what computers to buy, you need too be praying for a person who can run your IT department, or at least someone who knows enough to be able to get all the specific information about your needs and advise you on what software and hardware to get.
Bingo.
-Dan.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/18/2009 3:04:47 PM
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Ditto. Look for systems that match your requirements near-term and longer-term. If you really don't need a high-end graphics system, don't get one. Your money would be better spent elsewhere.
You don't want to hobble your systems now so that they can't be updated into expected requirements. But you also don't want to over-buy. Its not good stewardship.
And whatever you do, plan in obsolescence. You will want to replace your systems in a few years. So plan it out now, give it a budget, and in a few years, you will have the money ready to replace your older units.
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RE: nvidia tesla? - 10/28/2009 10:08:23 PM
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hisson1
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Thanks all for the excellent advice. Truthfully I was really wondering if anyone had heard about these systems, they're way to pricey for an upstart ministry. An IT pro would be nice when the time comes, right now I'm using a borrowed laptop and don't even have my own system, so I've a long ways to go at the moment!!!
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