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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/13/2009 9:58:31 AM
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I think we still have ELOs Out of the Blue, side 3 up (Concerto for a Rainy Day).
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/13/2009 12:59:07 PM
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/14/2009 9:02:18 PM
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I hit a vinyl gold mine yesterday while shopping at a local Habitat For Humanity store. For $.25 each, I got:
Stan Kention - Kention's West Side Story
Stan Getz - Plays Bachrach & David: What the World Needs Now (Verve)
Astrud Gilberto - The Shadow of Your Smile (Verve)
Kenny Burrell - A Generation Ago Today (Verve)
Jimmy Smith - Organ Grinder Swing (Verve)
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Further Out
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Jazz Impressions of New York
Miles Davis - Porgy & Bess
Sting - Russians (12" single)
Pet Shop Boys - Always On My Mind (12" Single)
Pet Shop Boys - Introspective
Malcom McLaren - Madam Butterfly (12" Single)
Depeche Mode - People Are People (12" Single)
Book Of Love - Lullaby
Herb Alpert - Rise (12" Single)
Arthur Lee - Vindicator
Carpenters - A Song For You (with "including the hits" sticker on front)
All in pretty good nick except for the Arthur Lee, which was pretty beat up, but I had never seen a copy of that album before, so I thought I'd risk the quarter. And I love finding stuff on the Verve label. Makes my day.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 1:51:36 AM
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I've been currently listening to the white stripes and starflyer 59 on vinyl. Tws-elephant sounds great!! My meager vinyl collection my vinyl collectio has some of my most essentric albums. Heh.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 2:37:45 AM
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Can somebody explain to me the appeal of vinyl? I am being completely sincere and not snarky at all.
I am of that particular age that started in my childhood with vinyl, moved on to cassette tapes, transitioned into CDs, and now buy digital. I've got plenty of records that I now own in digital format, and enjoy them much more.
Is it the aesthetics of putting a record on the turntable and lowering the needle? Is it the cracking and popping? Is it nostalgia?
I just don't get it, because I love good sound quality, especially in classical. You just don't get that on vinyl.
I'm more than happy to become a vinyl-phile, but I just don't get it right now.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 10:39:39 AM
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ORIGINAL: markb77
I hit a vinyl gold mine yesterday while shopping at a local Habitat For Humanity store. For $.25 each, I got:
Stan Kention - Kention's West Side Story
Stan Getz - Plays Bachrach & David: What the World Needs Now (Verve)
Astrud Gilberto - The Shadow of Your Smile (Verve)
Kenny Burrell - A Generation Ago Today (Verve)
Jimmy Smith - Organ Grinder Swing (Verve)
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Time Further Out
Dave Brubeck Quartet - Jazz Impressions of New York
Miles Davis - Porgy & Bess
Sting - Russians (12" single)
Pet Shop Boys - Always On My Mind (12" Single)
Pet Shop Boys - Introspective
Malcom McLaren - Madam Butterfly (12" Single)
Depeche Mode - People Are People (12" Single)
Book Of Love - Lullaby
Herb Alpert - Rise (12" Single)
Arthur Lee - Vindicator
Carpenters - A Song For You (with "including the hits" sticker on front)
All in pretty good nick except for the Arthur Lee, which was pretty beat up, but I had never seen a copy of that album before, so I thought I'd risk the quarter. And I love finding stuff on the Verve label. Makes my day.
Wow! Nice haul! This is one reason to be a vinyl freak: you can pick up so much good music for so little money. Gotta love it!
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 11:08:11 AM
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Can somebody explain to me the appeal of vinyl? I am being completely sincere and not snarky at all.
I am of that particular age that started in my childhood with vinyl, moved on to cassette tapes, transitioned into CDs, and now buy digital. I've got plenty of records that I now own in digital format, and enjoy them much more.
Is it the aesthetics of putting a record on the turntable and lowering the needle? Is it the cracking and popping? Is it nostalgia?
I just don't get it, because I love good sound quality, especially in classical. You just don't get that on vinyl.
I'm more than happy to become a vinyl-phile, but I just don't get it right now.
I don't think anyone here will argue the value of digital recording, especially with the advent of MP3 players that make taking large quantities of music to almost any environment imaginable. But when it comes to "warmth" of a listening experience (especially with live recordings), you just can't beat an analog recording. Digital recording necessarily chops sound into little tiny bits of information that can be combined in amazing ways to emulate how the music sounds acoustically, but, regardless to what end of detail you program your digitizing software, it is ultimately a perversion of the natural arc of sound waves. If you think about it, the original and ultimate goal of musical recording is to make music available for listening to when actually assembling the musical group or attending a concert of the artist in person is impractical. This being the case nearly 100% of the time, musical recordings step in to fill the need. Of course, digital recording has advanced so far that the emulating of acoustic sound is almost impossible to differentiate from actual analog recording. The refined ear can still make the distinction, though.
If you don't buy that argument...consider that a LARGE quantity of musical recordings prior to the last 20 years or so have never been recorded to a digital format and are ONLY available on vinyl or cassette. Perhaps the industry will eventually convert the bulk of this stock over to digital, but, even then, they will be digital incarnations of analog manifestations. Not exactly ideal.
I'll end with a story. In high school, I had a friend named Mike that lived in the house behind ours. We shared many similar interests in music and other areas. One night when my parents were away for some reason, there was a huge blackout in our town that lasted for about 4-5 hours. How did we pass the time? Mike's family had an old hand-cranked record player (maybe a Victrolla, but I'm not exactly sure). So, my sister and I grabbed some my dad's vinyl from his collection and some candles and spent the next couple hours at Mike's house listening to music and talking. This would have been 1990-1991 sometime, so MP3 players were nowhere on the horizon. Yes, we could have used a portable CD player with some batteries to play CDs, but there was something awfully nice about sitting in a candlelit room playing music on hand-cranked machine. I will always love vinyl because of that night and many other experiences like that.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 2:40:27 PM
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 3:36:31 PM
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Add to everything nealmorsefan said the fact that I can read the lyrics and liner notes without the use of an electron microscope.
Another big reason is the songs left off the cd version in order to fit it onto one disc. I have at least three cd's like that, and it's just plain robbery to charge me more money for fewer tunes. I would love to hear the entire contents of Joni Mitchell's "Sound & Light" album, but I probably never will because there were 3 songs left off the cd, and that's just not right.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 6:18:31 PM
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ORIGINAL: ManimalX
Can somebody explain to me the appeal of vinyl? I am being completely sincere and not snarky at all.
I am of that particular age that started in my childhood with vinyl, moved on to cassette tapes, transitioned into CDs, and now buy digital. I've got plenty of records that I now own in digital format, and enjoy them much more.
Is it the aesthetics of putting a record on the turntable and lowering the needle? Is it the cracking and popping? Is it nostalgia?
I just don't get it, because I love good sound quality, especially in classical. You just don't get that on vinyl.
I'm more than happy to become a vinyl-phile, but I just don't get it right now.
I don't think anyone here will argue the value of digital recording, especially with the advent of MP3 players that make taking large quantities of music to almost any environment imaginable. But when it comes to "warmth" of a listening experience (especially with live recordings), you just can't beat an analog recording. Digital recording necessarily chops sound into little tiny bits of information that can be combined in amazing ways to emulate how the music sounds acoustically, but, regardless to what end of detail you program your digitizing software, it is ultimately a perversion of the natural arc of sound waves. If you think about it, the original and ultimate goal of musical recording is to make music available for listening to when actually assembling the musical group or attending a concert of the artist in person is impractical. This being the case nearly 100% of the time, musical recordings step in to fill the need. Of course, digital recording has advanced so far that the emulating of acoustic sound is almost impossible to differentiate from actual analog recording. The refined ear can still make the distinction, though.
If you don't buy that argument...consider that a LARGE quantity of musical recordings prior to the last 20 years or so have never been recorded to a digital format and are ONLY available on vinyl or cassette. Perhaps the industry will eventually convert the bulk of this stock over to digital, but, even then, they will be digital incarnations of analog manifestations. Not exactly ideal.
I'll end with a story. In high school, I had a friend named Mike that lived in the house behind ours. We shared many similar interests in music and other areas. One night when my parents were away for some reason, there was a huge blackout in our town that lasted for about 4-5 hours. How did we pass the time? Mike's family had an old hand-cranked record player (maybe a Victrolla, but I'm not exactly sure). So, my sister and I grabbed some my dad's vinyl from his collection and some candles and spent the next couple hours at Mike's house listening to music and talking. This would have been 1990-1991 sometime, so MP3 players were nowhere on the horizon. Yes, we could have used a portable CD player with some batteries to play CDs, but there was something awfully nice about sitting in a candlelit room playing music on hand-cranked machine. I will always love vinyl because of that night and many other experiences like that.
Very interesting. Thank you for the info. I never considered music that hasn't been converted to CD or digitized. My mom has boxes and boxes full of her and my grandma's old vinyl I may have to dig in to. I know they had tons of big band, lots of Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Englebert Humperdink, Tom Jones, Julio Iglesias, and as my grandma was Italian, she had a ton of Italian music, opera, polka, etc.
I know my mom had a lot of "classic" Christian music... Larry Norman, Don Francisco, Jim Loving, and the like.
I also personally still have all four ALF records and their 4 accompanying puppets that were available from Burger King 20-ish years ago. Yeah, you know they're cool! 
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/15/2009 9:12:26 PM
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Can somebody explain to me the appeal of vinyl? I am being completely sincere and not snarky at all.
I am of that particular age that started in my childhood with vinyl, moved on to cassette tapes, transitioned into CDs, and now buy digital. I've got plenty of records that I now own in digital format, and enjoy them much more.
Is it the aesthetics of putting a record on the turntable and lowering the needle? Is it the cracking and popping? Is it nostalgia?
I just don't get it, because I love good sound quality, especially in classical. You just don't get that on vinyl.
I'm more than happy to become a vinyl-phile, but I just don't get it right now.
consider white stripes "elephant" record. it was recorded, mixed, and mastered all in analogue using 2 inch reel to reel tape and so on. (most white stripes recordings are in analogue anyway) so to listen to it on vinyl... is the way the artist intended it to be heard. same things goes with Joy Electric and some optehr artists today who choose to record strictly to analogue. SOUND wise... theres alot more quality you can get with analogue recording if you r just gonna plug up and record. if you have a whole treassure chest of tricks you want to use though, not so much.
i prefer analogue rock recordings better, they are generally more in your face as far as tone is concerned
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/16/2009 7:41:34 PM
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/17/2009 12:07:55 AM
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I am a total vinyl fan and will always be. I have over 600 albums and 400 45's. I was born in 1954 so Cd's were unheard of and so were cassettes. Vinyl was all we knew. Then there was reel to reel tapes and I had one. Next was 4 track tapes. I had a 4 track tape player and it was attached to a radio! A portable radio. Wish I still had that. It might be worth money today.
My feelings about vinyl? It doesn't sound perfect! I think Cd's sound so perfect and vinyl doesn't. If you take care of your vinyl, you shouldn't get the pops and hisses someone was talking about. I have some mint and near mint vinyl. In fact, most of my vinyl is that way. I have David Bowie's first single when he was David Jones and with The King Bees I think. A friend of mine had a whole box of 45's in his used book store one day and that was one of them. I think he sold me all of them for $5. Can you imagine the deal I got just with that one 45 which is in excellent condition considering it didn't have a sleeve? Most of them didn't have sleeves.
The Beatles came out with all their Cd's remastered which they did in the 80's also. The whole set is expensive so I won't think of buying them. Anyway, Paul said they would sound like you were right in the studio. Our CT oldies radio station WDRC played the Cd's from the first to the last. I heard some of them on my car radio. Did I feel like I was right in the studio with them? No. Could it be because I didn't have a very expensive radio in my car? I don't know. Paul didn't say I had to have a very expensive system to sound like you were right in the studio with them.
Good news! Vinyl is making a comeback! Check out The Jazz Loft. I first heard of them when I found out they had plastic sleeves for your Cd's that would let you put 3 Cd's in one space in your holders. They were $12.99 for 50 or 100, I don't remember how many. I bought some and continued to get e-mail's from them. However, they don't only sell Jazz, they now have vinyl and it's rock also! It's also a new kind of vinyl, 280 I think. I asked the difference between that and my last vinyl LP which was probably a Janet Jackson album. He said the vinyl was thicker and wouldn't warp so easily and wouldn't scratch so easily. I haven't bought any yet but I would like to, just to see the difference.
One other thing I love about vinyl is the album cover art. There is a book in our library and I have a copy called Album Cover Album. I have to admit some of the art is obscene with woman without clothes from Ohio Players but some of it is beautiful and you don't need a magnifying glass to see it. Some albums came with booklets, posters, stuff like that, all full sized. Where would they put that in a CD? I just wish vinyl didn't have to be so big. I like how Cd's are small and compact.
Now here is one more thing that I just found out. JC Penny's has a compact record player with speakers that plays 45's and 33's and I think 78's. I think it has a remote control with it, a 3 CD player and a dual cassette. It's not a real huge set up and I want to get one for our living room. It's $140! I think that is such a deal. So for those of you who want to get one, this sounds like a good one.
I think I will always be a big fan of vinyl. I still call them albums even though they are Cd's. I guess you can't break me of the habit.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/17/2009 1:54:35 AM
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I saw a record player at Target tonight that had a CDR built in, allowing you to make CDs out of records.
I thought this might be an awesome Christmas gift for my mom, who has boxes of vinyl and no way to listen to them. She enjoys listening to music on her computer now, so I thought getting somethign that could transfer records to CDs and then into MP3 would be cool.
The player/recorder is $249... anyone think that is worth it?
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/17/2009 4:13:43 PM
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Another big reason is the songs left off the cd version in order to fit it onto one disc. I have at least three cd's like that, and it's just plain robbery to charge me more money for fewer tunes. I would love to hear the entire contents of Joni Mitchell's "Sound & Light" album, but I probably never will because there were 3 songs left off the cd, and that's just not right.
I always hated this little practice, too. I can think of several albums I wanted to have on CD but I put off buying them because songs were left off of the CD (Prince's 1999, Skynyrd's One More From the Road, Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus as well as Joni's Shadows & Light among them). Fortunately, as the years past and the technology got better, all of these were either re-issued with the missing songs in place or given a Deluxe treatment and expanded to two cds to hold all the songs (with more songs added in most cases - which is a topic for a whole other thread). In the case of Shadows and Light, they remastered it, spread it out over two discs and got everything back where is should have been. It sounds good, too.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/17/2009 4:30:48 PM
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I saw a record player at Target tonight that had a CDR built in, allowing you to make CDs out of records.
I thought this might be an awesome Christmas gift for my mom, who has boxes of vinyl and no way to listen to them. She enjoys listening to music on her computer now, so I thought getting somethign that could transfer records to CDs and then into MP3 would be cool.
The player/recorder is $249... anyone think that is worth it?
for a 'mom' the package is worth it. user friendly it seems. i'd compare prices though. from what i've heard pretty much all teh stores have a system like this. may find one cheaper down the road. if your mom is a computer whiz, theres way cheaper/more time consuming ways to do it... but if shes not this may be teh route to go.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/17/2009 6:02:05 PM
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I spun some vinyl a couple of days ago:
Paul Clark and Friends - Come Into His Presence
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/19/2009 7:00:11 AM
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I second the opinion about the "warmth" of vinyl as opposed to digital.
I have several cd's of piano music, and I detect a cold, metallic kind of sound on some of the notes. I have albums of some of the same music and what I hear is good quality, very "live" sound.
CD's are good. ipods are good, but for me, vinyl is king!
Of course, having grown up in the 60's I have a pretty large collection of vinyl, and a pretty good system to play them on. So I guess I'm kinda prejudiced.
And, yeah, the album art is truly something to behold on many LP's.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/19/2009 12:03:10 PM
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One of the big advantages to Vinyl is the cost, especially since the recordings I purchase are rather dated. I have a sizable collection of big band, classical, and some jazz.(Mario Lanza too!)
Interestingly though many Mastering houses take the recorded mix and master in analog then of course store in digital. So that many of the CDs one may purchase are actually CDs that have been mastered in analog.
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/26/2009 2:47:00 PM
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/28/2009 3:12:51 PM
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RE: THE VINYL THREAD II - The Vinyl Countdown - 10/30/2009 2:59:12 PM
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