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What do you think? - 9/28/2009 7:34:29 PM
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pink_becca3
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I was wondering what everyone thinks about abortion. I think that it is wrong and that it is really murder. I really like the NeverSilenceLife website.
http://www.neversilencelife.com/
As a child, we are told all the time that everyone has the chance to make history and that everyone has a voice. It is our choice to use it for the good or for the bad. And it is our choice in this life how we are going to make a difference in the course of history.
We are all called to be something great, we all have passion and all have a voice... But some people aren't so fortunate, some people don't have a chance to speak and stand up for themselves.
So my question for you today is, will you be a voice for the voiceless?
Every 22 seconds a child dies. Not of starvation or of unclean water, but because someone made a choice for them. Someone didn't want to be inconvenienced so they made a choice. A choice to silence that inconvenience, even though it was because of something they had done. That inconvenience is an innocent child, and they are being silenced every single day.
In America alone 1.37 million children are aborted every year; 3,700 a day. My generation is a part of the biggest holocaust in history. 1/3 of my generation has been killed. And it's 1/2 of my generation that is doing the killing. And what have we done about it? Nothing. We say we don't like it but we don't stand up for it.
So another question for you today is, are you brave enough to stand up for what is right? Are you brave enough to make history? On January 22, 1973, abortion was legalized in the United States and since then 40 million children have been killed. We can't go on one more day without letting our voice be heard. So will you stand and let your voice be heard?
This call is an attempt to come together in unity, with one voice, to be the sound of the heartbeat that will wake up the sleeping in our nation. So, on January 22, 2009, in a silent protest, we will stand in front of court houses, schools and in churches praying for the lives of the unborn. We will gather all across America. We don't gather in violence, but with a repentant heart, we will lay our petitions before the Lord to have mercy on our country and bring change to the hearts of Americans and their view on the importance of a human life.
One Day. One Voice. One Heartbeat. Together we will stand for change. Together we will make history.
"Before you were formed in the womb, I knew you..." - Jeremiah 1:5
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RE: What do you think? - 9/29/2009 4:14:27 PM
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Crushmaster
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Abortion is murder, though many may not call it that. The Bible backs this up one-hundred percent.
God bless,
Crushmaster.
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RE: What do you think? - 9/30/2009 11:05:27 AM
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mollypear
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Crushmaster says it all.
What I don't understand is why some people-some Christians I know, in fact-think it's okay.
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RE: What do you think? - 9/30/2009 8:03:22 PM
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Crushmaster
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Crushmaster says it all.
What I don't understand is why some people-some Christians I know, in fact-think it's okay.
I must admit, I find it impossible to believe one can believe in abortion and be a Christian. It just doesn't add up.
God bless,
Crushmaster.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/1/2009 6:05:11 PM
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MainstayNut
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I am strongly pro-life.
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I must admit, I find it impossible to believe one can believe in abortion and be a Christian.
This bothered me. 
You talk about it like abortion is a sin, and I guess murder is a sin. But you know what? Lying, stealing, cheating, drugs, drunkeness, porn, and other things are also sin. Surely you've done at least one of those in your lifetime.
I myself happen to find it impossible to believe that there is a God in Heaven who cared enough about us and loves us SO MUCH (even when we blatently rebel) that He even bothered to make us in the first place, let alone die for us.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/1/2009 8:29:09 PM
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Crushmaster
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This bothered me.
You talk about it like abortion is a sin, and I guess murder is a sin. But you know what? Lying, stealing, cheating, drugs, drunkeness, porn, and other things are also sin. Surely you've done at least one of those in your lifetime.
I myself happen to find it impossible to believe that there is a God in Heaven who cared enough about us and loves us SO MUCH (even when we blatently rebel) that He even bothered to make us in the first place, let alone die for us.
Yes, lying, stealing, cheating, drunkness, porn, and other things are also sin. I don't deny that.
But when you're pro-death (which is what being pro-choice is.....), that's a big thing! I mean, you're supporting MURDER! Murder! Murder of an innocent, defenseless child! Christ gave you life, and you support killing innocent children?
Uh-uh. I find that impossible.
In Christ,
Crushmaster.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/1/2009 11:30:48 PM
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Yes, lying, stealing, cheating, drunkness, porn, and other things are also sin. I don't deny that.
But when you're pro-death (which is what being pro-choice is.....), that's a big thing! I mean, you're supporting MURDER! Murder! Murder of an innocent, defenseless child! Christ gave you life, and you support killing innocent children?
Uh-uh. I find that impossible.
In Christ,
Crushmaster.
Sooooo you're saying some sins are worse than others? I'm not following you...
Romans 3:23 says that ALL have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Sin didn't enter the world by murder, I mean, it was just a little piece of fruit, right? What harm could an apple or and orange or a pear do for gosh sakes? It was Eve and Adam's disobedience that made sin enter the world. Sin, in fact, by definition is anyhting that is contrary to God's will. Abortion (or any murder), and all those other things I listed are sins.
"For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." -Romans 6:23
What I was trying to say was that we all sin. God sees sin for what it is, not how "big" we think it is. But He came to provide a way out of sin, as He said in the verse above.
Is there absoultely no hope for Heaven for those who killed a baby? Did they void their chance to see God face to face? Of course not. If they confess their sins, He is FAITHFUL and JUST to clense them from all unrighteousness.
That, my friend, is salvation. And it belongs to all. Not just the good people who go to church every Sunday. 
Now I know you're talking about people who just simply believe that it's a woman's choice to decide what life stays and what life goes. They just think life is something someone can throw away if they want to.
I happen to have a friend who is pro-choice (or, pro-murder, as you said) and she happens to be one of the most honest and so gut real that I'm sure it would make you go nuts. Actually, she was the one who inspired me to live out MY faith my openly. My point is that God's not gonna strike her dead because she is pro-choice, just as He hasn't striken you dead because you lied, stole, cheated, etc.
My God is a loving God. He provides a way out of the wages of sin (death), and hopefully someday everyone will see that. 
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RE: What do you think? - 10/4/2009 1:57:38 PM
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pink_becca3
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The way I look at it is, that murder is illegal so abortion should be too right? It really isn't any different. I know that God forgives someone if they did have an abortion but it doesn't ever mean what they did was right.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/4/2009 11:43:01 PM
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Abortion is wrong unless the mother is in danger of dying. And in that case I'm not sure which one is right.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/8/2009 9:29:46 PM
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pink_becca3
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But it's still murder either way.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/9/2009 8:13:49 AM
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Well if self defense is murder, then yes.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/9/2009 10:36:19 AM
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Crushmaster
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Well if self defense is murder, then yes.
It would only be self-defense if the baby was maliciously attempting to kill the mother.
God bless,
Crushmaster.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/9/2009 2:06:25 PM
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So basically if your wife was gonna have a baby and the doctors said that if she does she will definitely die but the baby will live you would consider it a sin and murder if she got an abortion?
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RE: What do you think? - 10/9/2009 2:57:32 PM
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Crushmaster
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So basically if your wife was gonna have a baby and the doctors said that if she does she will definitely die but the baby will live you would consider it a sin and murder if she got an abortion?
Yes.
God bless,
Crushmaster.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/10/2009 8:40:02 PM
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i agree with Crushmaster
isn't a big thing of christianity to put others above yourself? besides, i believe that if a mother was actually a remotely, even remotely, good mom...she would give up the child's life before her own. i mean, thats her child. wouldn't you want your child even if you had to die in order for it to?
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RE: What do you think? - 10/13/2009 6:20:52 PM
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I'm pro-life because I believe that abortion is murder and God hates murder. Deductive reasoning. Murder is sin. Abortion is murder. Therefore, abortion is sin.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/17/2009 3:10:55 PM
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MainstayNut
This bothered me.
You talk about it like abortion is a sin, and I guess murder is a sin. But you know what? Lying, stealing, cheating, drugs, drunkeness, porn, and other things are also sin. Surely you've done at least one of those in your lifetime.
I myself happen to find it impossible to believe that there is a God in Heaven who cared enough about us and loves us SO MUCH (even when we blatently rebel) that He even bothered to make us in the first place, let alone die for us.
Yes, lying, stealing, cheating, drunkness, porn, and other things are also sin. I don't deny that.
But when you're pro-death (which is what being pro-choice is.....), that's a big thing! I mean, you're supporting MURDER! Murder! Murder of an innocent, defenseless child! Christ gave you life, and you support killing innocent children?
Uh-uh. I find that impossible.
I really agree. Abortion is Homocide
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RE: What do you think? - 10/17/2009 7:30:28 PM
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I have been a hard core Pro-Lifer since I learned what abortion was.
Abortion is murder! You can twist it, stretch it, hammer it, analyze it, call it by another name, or even slant the term, but no matter what you do it is still murder!
< Message edited by SteelCore -- 10/17/2009 7:38:45 PM >
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RE: What do you think? - 10/17/2009 10:30:03 PM
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Crushmaster
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I have been a hard core Pro-Lifer since I learned what abortion was.
Abortion is murder! You can twist it, stretch it, hammer it, analyze it, call it by another name, or even slant the term, but no matter what you do it is still murder!
Well said!
God bless,
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RE: What do you think? - 10/18/2009 4:27:00 PM
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ORIGINAL: GuitarHero_J.C
I have been a hard core Pro-Lifer since I learned what abortion was.
Abortion is murder! You can twist it, stretch it, hammer it, analyze it, call it by another name, or even slant the term, but no matter what you do it is still murder!
I couldn't have said it better! It makes me mad that people actually think that abortion is acceptable. Since when should murder ever be legal?
< Message edited by pink_becca3 -- 10/18/2009 4:38:24 PM >
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RE: What do you think? - 10/20/2009 11:03:43 AM
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Since when should murder ever be legal?
Never! But there are now people in are government that believe differently. And they hold the power to make it legal. If that doesn't say something about them.....
< Message edited by GuitarHero_J.C -- 10/20/2009 11:09:49 AM >
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RE: What do you think? - 10/22/2009 4:23:49 PM
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Abortion is totally wrong!!!!!!!!!
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RE: What do you think? - 10/26/2009 6:52:42 PM
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As a child, we are told all the time that everyone has the chance to make history and that everyone has a voice. It is our choice to use it for the good or for the bad. And it is our choice in this life how we are going to make a difference in the course of history.
We are all called to be something great, we all have passion and all have a voice... But some people aren't so fortunate, some people don't have a chance to speak and stand up for themselves.
So my question for you today is, will you be a voice for the voiceless?
Every 20 seconds a child dies. Not of starvation or of unclean water, but because someone made a choice for them. Someone didn't want to be inconvenienced so they made a choice. A choice to silence that inconvenience, even though it was because of something they had done. That inconvenience is an innocent child, and they are being silenced every single day.
In America alone 1.4 million children are aborted every year; more than 5,000 a day. My generation is a part of the biggest holocaust in history. 1/3 of my generation has been killed. And it's 1/2 of my generation that is doing the killing. And what have we done about it? Nothing. We say we don't like it but we don't stand up for it.
So another question for you today is, are you brave enough to stand up for what is right? Are you brave enough to make history? On January 22, 1973, abortion was legalized in the United States and since then 53 million children have been killed. We can't go on one more day without letting our voice be heard. So will you stand and let your voice be heard?
This call is an attempt to come together in unity, with one voice, to be the sound of the heartbeat that will wake up the sleeping in our nation. So, on January 22, 2009, in a silent protest, we will stand in front of court houses, schools and in churches praying for the lives of the unborn. We will gather all across America. We don't gather in violence, but with a repentant heart, we will lay our petitions before the Lord to have mercy on our country and bring change to the hearts of Americans and their view on the importance of a human life.
One Day. One Voice. One Heartbeat. Together we will stand for change. Together we will make history.
"Before you were formed in the womb, I knew you..." - Jeremiah 1:5
I redid this because the numbers where bigger. This is all from never silence life website. I tried to find the most accurate numbers for this. The thing about January 22nd 2009 was something that a lot of people did. They tell all about it on the website. I also found out that 2.5 babies are aborted every minute. This killing spree is fueled by the fact that 3 out of 4 Americans say abortion should remain legal. I think that it is SO sad that this is happening.
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RE: What do you think? - 10/27/2009 8:21:06 AM
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Okay, we all agree that murder is wrong. Abortion is wrong.
Now what about capital punishment? Isn't that wrong also? Or is it okay because the government, the authority God places over us, has that as America's death policy for criminals?
(I think capital punishment is wrong.)
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RE: What do you think? - 10/27/2009 8:25:06 PM
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pink_becca3
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Well I think that capital punishment is wrong too. (That isn't what I was meaning to imply.)
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