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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/21/2009 6:34:33 PM
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tsnody2001 - Yes, most. But not all.
Hope spring eternal...I guess!!!
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/21/2009 6:39:50 PM
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Like most of the judges have done so far.
Yes, most. But not all.
Where has any of the suits been deemed with merit and allowed to proceed?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/22/2009 4:42:29 AM
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Where has any of the suits been deemed with merit and allowed to proceed?
One is set to go to trial. I'm sure you know which one I'm talking about, so I won't give a link. If you really, don't know then let me know and I will give you more info on it.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/22/2009 9:00:51 PM
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Obama eligibility case survives 1st court test
Judge hears arguments, refuses immediate dismissal demand
Posted: October 05, 2009
4:29 pm Eastern
By Bob Unruh
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
A federal judge in California today listened to government lawyers argue that a lawsuit over President Obama's eligibility should be immediately dismissed but refused to grant their request, saying he would make his decision and announce it later.
The result came this morning from U.S. District Judge David Carter, who already has set a tentative trial date for the dispute Jan. 26, 2010. The judge also already had lawyers draw up a tentative schedule for hearings and deadlines in preparation for the trial. LINK
I already know what the your response is going to be though. You (anyone who refuses to admit the case has merit) are going to attack the reporting agency as being nutty, politically biased, an arm of the Republican party, etc.. All while refusing to even look at any of the mounting evidence against Barack Obama. I understand that one wants to support his or her political party of choice. But should that take precedence over searching out the truth and following the evidence, wherever it may lead you? Should truth take a back seat to politics?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/24/2009 4:20:15 PM
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This story means absolutely nothing. All that happened was that the court finalized a couple of administrative decisions (i.e. court dates) that had already been discussed and agreed upon in the previous hearing. This is completely routine and there is absolutely nothing that can be read into it regarding Carter's decision one way or another.
As of today, no decision has been made. The odds are still greatly in favor of it being dismissed. Nothing has changed.
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All while refusing to even look at any of the mounting evidence against Barack Obama.
But there's the problem. There has been no mounting evidence. The evidence is just the same as it was the day Obama paid his $12, obtained his COLB from the Hawaiian Vital Records Dept, and made it public. You can find any number of fake birth certificates, bogus analyses from fake document experts, deliberately misconstrued and editing interviews, etc. but none of it adds up to a single shred of evidence. And until you have evidence, there is no case to answer, even if by some miracle, the birthers are correct.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/24/2009 6:30:24 PM
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I already know what the your response is going to be though. You (anyone who refuses to admit the case has merit) are going to attack the reporting agency as being nutty, politically biased, an arm of the Republican party, etc.. All while refusing to even look at any of the mounting evidence against Barack Obama. I understand that one wants to support his or her political party of choice. But should that take precedence over searching out the truth and following the evidence, wherever it may lead you? Should truth take a back seat to politics?
At this point I am just going to wait and see.
I also double check some of my sources when they are a little out there and I did check this one out and it seems true, so we'll see.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/26/2009 4:16:13 PM
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TRUTH trumps all.
Constitution trumps politics.
America trumps party lines.
So, I for one want to know the truth,
I want the Constitution upheld, and
I want America to be America again.
I am NOT "of" this world, but am getting tired of
living "in" this world. All is vanity, and vexation.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/27/2009 7:40:06 PM
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TRUTH trumps all.
Constitution trumps politics.
America trumps party lines.
Of course, one might just as easily that's exactly what is happening already in the case of the rejections of the birthers' claims.
Just because you claim to know what's true, doesn't mean you are correct.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/29/2009 4:31:48 PM
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U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter dismissed the case Thursday and said in a written opinion that the U.S. Constitution does not give the court jurisdiction to decide the matter.
Carter says in court papers that the court cannot "sweep away the votes of over 68 million Americans with the stroke of a pen."
What would one expect in today's America?
"no jurisdiction"
"the vote trumps truth"
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/29/2009 8:16:02 PM
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U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter dismissed the case Thursday and said in a written opinion that the U.S. Constitution does not give the court jurisdiction to decide the matter.
Carter says in court papers that the court cannot "sweep away the votes of over 68 million Americans with the stroke of a pen."
Wow. What a cop-out. His statement in no way says that the case did not have merit, just that he can't "sweep away" votes, regardless of whether or not the man is violating the Constitution. And the Constitution doesn't give him the jurisdiction to uphold and follow the Constitution? It is funny that he uses the Constitution as an excuse not to take on a case that involves a blatant violation of the same.
All the while, Obama's expenses paid to keep this issue under wraps is escalating. What is it at now, close to $2 million?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/30/2009 2:01:41 AM
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All the while, Obama's expenses paid to keep this issue under wraps is escalating. What is it at now, close to $2 million?
Who pays for that, taxpayers?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/30/2009 2:54:08 AM
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All the while, Obama's expenses paid to keep this issue under wraps is escalating. What is it at now, close to $2 million?
Don't worry. Barry Soetoro has enough financial backers and progressive lib lawyers around the world to handle any contingency. 
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/30/2009 3:08:14 AM
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The courts cannot remove Obama, even if he is proven to be ineligible. Impeachment is the only process, and thus Carter is exactly right. (Not to mention the fact that the court case was one big fishing expedition without a single ounce of evidence presented to make their case).
And true to form Orly's web site is now calling Carter all sort of appalling names -- she really is a nasty piece of work and a disgrace to her (second) profession. The sooner she is disbarred the better for everyone (yes, even the birthers).
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/30/2009 10:16:02 AM
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U.S. District Court Judge David O. Carter dismissed the case Thursday and said in a written opinion that the U.S. Constitution does not give the court jurisdiction to decide the matter.
Carter says in court papers that the court cannot "sweep away the votes of over 68 million Americans with the stroke of a pen."
Wow. What a cop-out. His statement in no way says that the case did not have merit, just that he can't "sweep away" votes, regardless of whether or not the man is violating the Constitution. And the Constitution doesn't give him the jurisdiction to uphold and follow the Constitution? It is funny that he uses the Constitution as an excuse not to take on a case that involves a blatant violation of the same.
All the while, Obama's expenses paid to keep this issue under wraps is escalating. What is it at now, close to $2 million?
The Constitution does not grant the court any such role. That may be inconvenient for you, but it is fact. Here is the actual decision and a scathing rebuke of the whack-job attorney.
From the link:
he had received "several sworn affidavits" showing that Taitz "asked potential witnesses" to lie under oath.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/18/2009 11:42:14 AM
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TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS?.....................
anyone?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/18/2009 3:30:51 PM
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TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS?.....................
anyone?
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2 people were there when I was born- the Doctor and the orderly. How hard can it be to find those two or three persons who were there when Obama was born?
Er, except of course the doctor who was there is dead in my case.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/18/2009 3:40:57 PM
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TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS?.....................
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2 people were there when I was born- the Doctor and the orderly. How hard can it be to find those two or three persons who were there when Obama was born?
Er, except of course the doctor who was there is dead in my case.
If you worked in Labor and Delivery, you would've seen thousands of births. Few would be memorable. Of those, you would remember almost no names unless you were part of a vast conspiracy so that you would know a particular biracial infant was going to become President of the USA over 45 years later.
Since Obama's mother attested to being present at his birth, the ten thousand dollars should go to her estate.
BTW, your mother was also present at your birth, unless you were born in some unique fashion that I don't want to know about. And, maybe you should look into the circumstances of the death of your doctor as he is a key witness to your birth, should you ever need to prove you were born. Though he might have had a busy practice and not remembered you.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/18/2009 7:33:50 PM
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If you worked in Labor and Delivery, you would've seen thousands of births. Few would be memorable. Of those, you would remember almost no names unless you were part of a vast conspiracy so that you would know a particular biracial infant was going to become President of the USA over 45 years later.
Since Obama's mother attested to being present at his birth, the ten thousand dollars should go to her estate.
BTW, your mother was also present at your birth, unless you were born in some unique fashion that I don't want to know about. And, maybe you should look into the circumstances of the death of your doctor as he is a key witness to your birth, should you ever need to prove you were born. Though he might have had a busy practice and not remembered you.
For $10,000 I bet it would jog my memory. ; ) Heck, for $10,000 I'll go on record and say B0 was born in Kenya, Poland, Antarctica or on the moon for that matter.
What concerns me though Cow is this: If someone was born at home or in the car or someplace without the help of a doctor, are they still born?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/18/2009 8:56:07 PM
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2 people were there when I was born- the Doctor and the orderly. How hard can it be to find those two or three persons who were there when Obama was born?
Er, except of course the doctor who was there is dead in my case.
Let's see, Obama is 48 and any medical professional who was there would have been 22 at the youngest (assuming a nurse right out of college) or 26 (assuming a first year resident MD), so the youngest anyone who would have been there would have been is 70, and it's more likely that they are 80-90 years old if they're still alive - and have witnessed thousands of births throughout their career.
I'm 5 years younger than the President and both the OBGYN who delivered me, and his nurse (both of whom were longtime family friends) have been dead for 15 years - it seems like this is just another ridiculous and pointless attempt to generate publicity.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/19/2009 5:09:29 AM
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I'm 5 years younger than the President and both the OBGYN who delivered me, and his nurse (both of whom were longtime family friends) have been dead for 15 years - it seems like this is just another ridiculous and pointless attempt to generate publicity.
Hey, if I'm B0 I have to figure anything that distracts people from my secular-humanist-family wrecking-satanistic-commie agenda is good.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 11/19/2009 12:05:31 PM
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If you worked in Labor and Delivery, you would've seen thousands of births. Few would be memorable. Of those, you would remember almost no names unless you were part of a vast conspiracy so that you would know a particular biracial infant was going to become President of the USA over 45 years later.
Since Obama's mother attested to being present at his birth, the ten thousand dollars should go to her estate.
BTW, your mother was also present at your birth, unless you were born in some unique fashion that I don't want to know about. And, maybe you should look into the circumstances of the death of your doctor as he is a key witness to your birth, should you ever need to prove you were born. Though he might have had a busy practice and not remembered you.
For $10,000 I bet it would jog my memory. ; ) Heck, for $10,000 I'll go on record and say B0 was born in Kenya, Poland, Antarctica or on the moon for that matter.
What concerns me though Cow is this: If someone was born at home or in the car or someplace without the help of a doctor, are they still born?
I am slightly older than President Teleprompter. I could not meet the burden of proving my place of birth aside from my birth certificate, which looks like the President's except from a different state. There are no surviving medical or family personnel or medical records. I don't even have a newspaper announcement.
Bottom line: this birther baloney is 100% nonsense (the strongest terms I can get past TOS).
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