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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 7:25:29 PM
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therealshowlove
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i see..also if one is to say that remarriage (in some instances) is adultery, then as Jesus says remarrying (if outside the okayed reasons by God) is commiting adultery. so that would be a marriage God would want divorced as they ARE commiting adultery by even being married.
Two legally divorced persons are always free to remarry and it is not adultery.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 7:40:11 PM
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i guess that is where we may disagree on definition.
where does the bible state that all divorced persons can remarry?
also, i understand that many people read 'put away' as merely seperate as you do.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 7:46:29 PM
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i guess that is where we may disagree on definition.
where does the bible state that all divorced persons can remarry?
also, i understand that many people read 'put away' as merely separate as you do.
Where is there a biblical prohibition against remarriage?
It is not a matter of how I "read" it for it is not I who define the terms that creates the distinction between "divorce" and "putting away".
It is not I who allowed divorce. God did, in Deut 24.
APOSTASION
Strong's Number: 647 a)posta/sion
Original Word Word Origin
a)posta/sion neuter of a (presumed) adj. from a derivative of (868)
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Apostasion ap-os-tas'-ee-on
Parts of Speech TENT
Noun Neuter None
Definition - divorce, repudiation
a bill of divorce
Translated Words
KJV (3) - divorcement, 2; writing of divorcement, 1;
NAS (3) - certificate of divorce, 1; divorce, 2;
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APOLUO
a)polu/w from (575) and (3089)
Transliterated Word Phonetic Spelling
Apoluo ap-ol-oo'-o
Parts of Speech TENT
Verb None
Definition - to set free
to let go, dismiss, (to detain no longer)
a petitioner to whom liberty to depart is given by a decisive answer
to bid depart, send away
to let go free, release
a captive i.e. to loose his bonds and bid him depart, to give him liberty to depart
to acquit one accused of a crime and set him at liberty
indulgently to grant a prisoner leave to depart
to release a debtor, i.e. not to press one's claim against him, to remit his debt
used of divorce, to dismiss from the house, to repudiate. The wife of a Greek or Roman may divorce her husband.
to send one's self away, to depart
Divorce and putting away are clearly not the same thing.
Jesus was not confused in his choice of words. He clearly refers to "putting away" without cause is illegal. Jesus did not address actual divorce at all therefore the law as written remained in tact.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:03:18 PM
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apostation is used in the Hebrew which is from where you referenced it. the references to put away are from the greek. two different languages.
The translation is from Greek.
The Jews still spoke Hebrew and understood both terms
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:03:25 PM
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where do you find the word apostasion in the Bible?
what version are you referencing?
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:10:21 PM
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where do you find the word apostasion in the Bible?
what version are you referencing?
In English it is translated as divorce.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:25:28 PM
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found it!
i was looking up the word divorce...then began to widen the search.
it is the word used for bill of divorce, which is why it is a different word than divorce.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:34:45 PM
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found it!
i was looking up the word divorce...then began to widen the search.
it is the word used for bill of divorce, which is why it is a different word than divorce.
True.
It would be very difficult to give someone a bill of divorcement without divorcing them.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 8:48:02 PM
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Malachi 2:16
For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
btw, the Lord hates 'putting away'
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 9:05:14 PM
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Malachi 2:16
For the LORD, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the LORD of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
btw, the Lord hates 'putting away'
Absolutely! On that we both agree! 
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/16/2009 9:15:14 PM
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Welcome Isaiah 331516,
You have quite an interesting story! I will not pretend to tell you whether God has spoken to you or through your backslidden friend. But I will say, if you know that God has spoken to you, do not let it go. I would discourage you from this faith if it ran contrary to the word of God. But you need be aware that there are two schools of thought. There are those who take Matthew 19:9 as a clause to divorce and remarry and the Old Testament law of divorce as grounds to divorce, then there is the school (which your brother seems to belong) that takes the entirity of scripture (Gods will on marriage) to determine that God's will for marriage is one man and one woman made one flesh of which God joins (believers and not) only separated by death. I am belong to the school of thought that takes the entirity of scripture and God's will that marriage resembles Christ's and His bride. Under the first assumption that any adultary permits divorce and re-marriage, the promise you believe God made to you is wrongheaded and contrary to the singular interpretation of Matthew 19:9 as the solitary answer to love, marriage, divorce and remarriage.
However, the second school of thought that subscribes to "marriage till death" would mean that your backsliding friend is no more married then a pig has wings. You'll get quite a debate on this in these forums, I guaruntee it. But what I can say, is do what I did. Search all of the scriptures on marriage in the NT, read the OT too knowing that we are no longer under the Law and God will lead you to the truth.
You are right. God does want marriage to glorify Him. If you believe as I do, your back slidden friend is NOT married. Merely in a government approved union with another man's wife, just as we now have government approved same-sex unions. It doesn't make it right in God's eyes.
My final point to answer the initial question you posed, about God caring about who we marry. I think He does care, and He cares a great deal. I think He wants our marriages to reflect His love and devotion. I cannot say that He doesn't tell people who their spouses will be. I don't know. That is between God and the person. I do know that I myself feel marriage is more of an option to those who want it rather than a mandate. And God will guide as He sees fit. But truly, who we marry will not come as a shock to God, because He already knows the future. And therefore in that sense alone, I guess it is possible to tell you what will be.
I like what one poster said about waiting it out. If God said it, let Him bring it to pass. Let Him make it happen and let God lead you. Grow in the knowledge of the Lord and live your life. If God is saying "you should marry him" that is different from "You WILL marry him," or even, "You may marry him." If He has said you WILL marry the man, then you WILL. But if He says, "you should, or you may." That leaves it up to your discretion but that if God says, "You should marry XOXOX," then you know God has endorsed the guy (that should be a pretty good incentive). And if He says you may, it also means the guy is fine in God's plan too. Pray. Live your life. Recall exactly what God did say to you. If God told you, "You should or you may" and you spend your whole life waiting, and pass up another "God sanctioned" gent, that might not be the best.
But pray. Recall exactly what God said to you. Write it down, keep it somewhere safe. And live your life.
Bless you!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/18/2009 12:01:07 PM
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Whoa, this thread is taking some dangerous turns. Now we're trying to decide if this guy is really married?? He IS married. He made a marriage covenant with this woman before God and man when he took his vows. Regardless of his motivations, it is done. He IS married. God recognizes this as marriage. To pray for his marriage to fail is completely unBiblical and against God's will. And just because God promises something, doesn't mean that people can't choose to do otherwise. God promised all of the Isrealites that He would bring them into the promised land. But guess what... Moses sinned and for that God said he would not be allowed to live to see the promised land. Maybe God did try to bring you two together. I won't argue with that. But this man chose to marry someone else, and at the time you decided you didn't want to marry him either. It would sound to me that this isn't the kind of man God would promise at this time anyway. God calls us to be equally yoked, and it sounds like this man is not really serving God now. One of those verses I posted earlier said the man you choose to marry MUST belong to the Lord. It's true, we do not know what will happen in the future. But this man is married, and I believe that to pray against it or to try to convince yourself that this is not a real marriage is sinful and un-Biblical.
I believe in holding on to God's promises. But I also know the enemy is a liar and will try to confuse us. If you believe God is telling you something, but it doesn't line up with scripture, it is most likely the deceit of the enemy, not the voice of God. God will not contradict Himself.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/18/2009 12:54:25 PM
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this time has been great with study and prayer. something i have learned and know is that God is not in all marriages. so, for that reason, i do not always feel bad that some don't make it. of course, i don't cheer people on to leave their spouses. second, i am praying for God's glory ro be revealed; i am praying to have the courage to believe God no matter what; i am praying that God helps me to know Him as Him and not as my earthly father; i am thanking Jesus for His sacrifice that allows me to get closer to God, to live for Him, to have His truth, His discernment, His love, His strength, His power, His joy, His peace, faith in Him alone, trust in Him alone, to have nothing and no one above Him, His love, all that He has for me, and to one day be in His presence.
it is not unBiblical to believe what God says; it is unBiblical to put any of our own beliefs and traditions above God's word.
thank you for your post :-)
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/20/2009 3:43:51 PM
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this time has been great with study and prayer. something i have learned and know is that God is not in all marriages. so, for that reason, i do not always feel bad that some don't make it. of course, i don't cheer people on to leave their spouses. second, i am praying for God's glory ro be revealed; i am praying to have the courage to believe God no matter what; i am praying that God helps me to know Him as Him and not as my earthly father; i am thanking Jesus for His sacrifice that allows me to get closer to God, to live for Him, to have His truth, His discernment, His love, His strength, His power, His joy, His peace, faith in Him alone, trust in Him alone, to have nothing and no one above Him, His love, all that He has for me, and to one day be in His presence.
it is not unBiblical to believe what God says; it is unBiblical to put any of our own beliefs and traditions above God's word.
thank you for your post :-)
Jhn 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Amen Isiah my prayers are with you.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/21/2009 10:02:51 AM
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I'm a bit offended that despite my quotes of Scripture, you say that I am putting my own beliefs above God's Word. Everything I have said is backed by Scripture. You are holding to the fact that you believe God spoke to you, instead of reading what the Scripture has to say. I apologize for coming across harshly, but I really believe God takes this very very seriously. I have a tremendous problem with someone trying to claim a married man for herself. Here is more Scripture....
Numbers 30:1-2 (New International Version)
1 Moses said to the heads of the tribes of Israel: "This is what the LORD commands: 2 When a man makes a vow to the LORD or takes an oath to obligate himself by a pledge, he must not break his word but must do everything he said.
This man took marriage vows before God. Scripture commands us never to break a vow we make to God.
Also, you say God is not in all marriages. Certainly we have a choice to allow God in our marriages or to exclude him, but that does not alter the fact that when we marry, we make a vow before him. Where in Scripture does it say it's ok to break vows if you feel God isn't in the marriage? If a man rapes a woman and her father makes him marry his daughter because of it... would you say God is in that marriage? Would say God wants that marriage to last? Look below...
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 (New International Version)
28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [a] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.
I know, rape is not part of this discussion, but I'm using this as an example. Sometimes we don't do what God wants us to do, but guess what? God still holds us accountable. In this example of a terrible Godless act, God still holds the man accountable and commands him to marry the girl and never divorce her. Your friend, regardless of why he married this woman, he still married her. God takes that seriously, and you should too. My prayer is that this marriage will prosper and that God will somehow bring this couple to include Him in their marriage. God loves this other woman as much as He loves me and you. He cares about her marriage as much yours or mine. I pray your friend is restored to God and that his wife finds God through this situation. My in-laws were not Christians when they married, but they gave their lives to Christ 8 years into their marriage and have a beautiful Godly relationship now. Just because your friend and his wife aren't serving God now, doesn't mean God has given up on them.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/21/2009 12:52:10 PM
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While it is not to be used as an excuse for divorce. God also said
Deu 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.
Deu 24:2 And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's [wife].
Deu 24:3 And [if] the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth [it] in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her [to be] his wife;
Deu 24:4 Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that [is] abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee [for] an inheritance.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/21/2009 4:21:25 PM
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starvin.
then i suppose his 'wife' is married to her exhusband. they too made vows to God.
if she is not bound by her first set of vows...then ....what makes her bound by this new set? that is not as big a matter though.
no institution is above God's word. even Jesus did 'work' on the sabbath as it was according to God's plan. while God intended/intends for us to keep the sabbath, we are not to put the sabbath above God's work or what He says to do.
marriage is good as long as we do it God's way. just like work is good as long as we do it God's way. shall i stay in a job i've commited to even after i realize i am out of God's will? God forbid.
what if a friend of mine actually marries her female fiance as planned? shall they stay married for ever bc they have vowed before God (as they plan to do)? is that God's plan? no. God would not have them to be married, so they should get a divorce.
i take what God says seriously, too, which is why i will not deny what He has said.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/21/2009 8:15:40 PM
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I take what God says just as seriously as you do,
God says there are grounds for divorce.
Divorce, as with marriage, should not be entered into lightly but soberly.
Divorce for any and every reason was not allowed in Israel and a divorce was VERY DIFFICULT to obtain (as it should be). No fault divorce is of the devil.
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2Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband.
My, my, my I FINALLY got it! And my soul says yes! I could not have chosen better myself!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/21/2009 9:57:39 PM
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I didn't say there were no grounds for divorce. That's not what this whole thread is about. Scripture clearly says that adultery is grounds for divorce. But God hates divorce, and it's a last resort. My point was that it's unBiblical to pray for a divorce just because you feel someone should belong to you and you feel that God isn't in their marriage. That's coveting your neighbor's husband.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/22/2009 4:38:05 PM
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i am not praying for their divorce; i am praying God's will be done.
btw, God hates putting away. if you believe putting away is divorce, i welcome the convo. actually, i welcome the convo either way :-)!
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/22/2009 5:26:46 PM
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Oops forgot the not so end ... ending...
He divorced after many years..... came to search for me again....
found me ... and made another choice only God can help him with...
He is a good man... ... and speaks to and helps with his son regularly... -
I have a wonderful man of God friend at our church ... God is working in our relationship
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 4/23/2009 2:22:21 PM
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Thanks for sharing your story, Grace. What a beautiful example of forgiveness and how God can help us put our lives back together. 
Isaiah, God has already revealed His will in His Word. His will is for marriage to succeed. His will is for us to keep our vows. His will is for us to respect the vows taken by others.
The Bible also tells us to use discernment. Not everything we feel comes from God. Consider these verses.
1 John 4:1
Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Proverbs 3:21
My son, preserve sound judgment and discernment, do not let them out of your sight;
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 5/12/2009 12:25:24 PM
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YES, God cares who we marry.
If God told you that man is your husband, that’s what God means. Keep living and keep seeking the Good Lord concerning every area of your spiritual growth, not just your future marriage to this man. God will most assuredly bring it back around. Christ is not mocked just because we are sometimes (or oftentimes) disobedient.
It is not God’s nature to make promises to His children and then say, opps, I didn’t know that was going to happen! He wouldn’t get you emotionally and spiritually involved (praying) about something that He has no intention of manifesting. God knew when He told you about your future husband that he was going to make a mistake and marry someone else (purely of his flesh). This man has a lot of growing to do. You are growing, and have additional growth to do as well. Don’t be surprised by what God reveals to you about yourself as well as about your future husband during this process.
Your marriage to this man is a future event. You have to allow this thing to run its course (sin must run its course—it’s in the Bible). God has allowed it for a reason or reasons that you don’t understand right now. We don't have to understand God in order to trust God, though He does give us insight as needed from time to time.
Many things happen in this world that God does not approve of. We know that because we have murders, rapes, thefts, etc. Those things are happening, and it’s not because God is not good or true to His word; but it’s because of sin. Other less obvious (but no less sinful) things happen as well, because humans go against the will of God many times.
People get “married” for a number of reasons but not all marriages are of God. Sounds like the man that you are espoused to by God has gone contrary to the word of God, and is now in an ungodly covenant. God is not pleased. But, you must allow God to work it out. You can’t do it.
There’s a doctrine of devils in the American Christian community that idolizes the marriage covenant as purely a function of human decision. It states that any man and any woman who decides to marry will receive God’s approval. And, once they have married, God is just obligated to bless their decision. Humm...
A Godly covenant does not place the will of man over the will of God. God is the One who created the institution of marriage in the first place; therefore God is still “arranging marriages.”
Many times in the Bible God instructed man to do something and man would go against the will of God (remember Jonah?) But in time, God will have His way.
It is good to hear that you are pressing on into the deeper life with God. The Apostle Paul talks about Christians who are on milk and those who are on meat. Sounds like the Holy Spirit has put meat in your spiritual diet for great growth! Still, you have to stop telling everyone about what God has said and stop seeking everyone’s opinion (remember Joseph!)
Keep trusting God—He will never lead you astray. And, He will send other Christians along side of you from time to time to encourage you and help you grow in this process. When God brings your husband back around he will be a mature and godly man, worthy of the type of wife that God is clearly making you into; and you for him.
I wish you well and Godspeed (spiritually and naturally speaking!) on this journey.
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RE: Does God care who we marry? - 5/18/2009 2:08:56 AM
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Isaiah331516,
Many have made great points. But have failed to take in the totality of scripture regarding your unique situation (which in fact is not so unique in todays broken marriage/broken home culture). A fellow poster posted something akin to what I've written about in other forums regarding marriage. But this person has made it quite concise and clear. I've posted it here below. I hope you take a moment to read it, and understand the heart of God. We miss that so much focusing on laws and edicts. I've posted it below, from the poster "northstar."
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What kind of God do we serve then? One made in our own image? One who'll let us do what we want and pretend He doesn't mind, or doesn't even see it?
Because so many people on this thread say 'My God isn't like that'...or 'the God I serve wouldn't do that'.
So what then, are we all serving different Gods? Seems so...
What about when Jesus said 'take up your cross and follow Me'...how is it taking up one's cross to just go and search for another spouse? More likely that taking up your cross involves dying to self and staying faithful to the covenant that was made with the original spouse, no matter what they decide to do.
And how is staying faithful (as promised in the wedding vows) 'paying' for what the other person has done? It's not 'paying', it's remaining honourable, faithful, committed to fulfilling the words that came out of our own mouths. The Bible says that it's better not to vow something, than to vow and not fulfill that vow, and it also says that we will be judged for every idle word that comes out of our mouths...surely a broken vow can be counted as 'idle words'?
The Bible also says that we will all stand before the judgement seat of Christ and give an account of the things done in the body, whether good or bad. I for one don't want to stand before God and give account for why I didn't keep my vows. I'm responsible for myself, not for anyone else. My husband is responsible for himself. He will give account for the things he does (including if he breaks the vows he made to me), and I will give account for the way I respond, and whether I've done what I promised to do, or whether I broke it too. And I won't be able to say 'well, it's his fault', because no matter what someone else does, I'm still responsible for my own actions, and for keeping my word.
Psalm 15 asks who may ascend the hill of the Lord, and goes on to list the types of people who will, and also includes 'he who swears to his own hurt and does not change', so if we make our wedding vows and keep them even when it hurts, then we are seen as people who please God and who may ascend the hill of the Lord. I don't see pleasing God as 'paying'...maybe difficult (but all things are possible through Christ who strengthens me), but not 'paying'.
God bless...
Hope this helps.
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I definitely did not walk with the Lord as I do now. He and I had an affair as He said he loved me and did not desire this situation. I too became pregnant, thus I sit next to my son 
and when my son was 2 or so we went to court for child support. I by then had come to walk with the Lord Jesus and know Him as my very best friend and Lord, so I prayed and prayed and this was my prayer...