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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/25/2009 1:09:38 PM
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Chrystal-J-007
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They chose to do the IVF thing with its risk of multiple babies. If that linked article above is correct, then Kate especially has indulged in all sorts of selfish behavior. They chose to become celebrities, so now they must deal with the scrutiny and the consequences.
Babbred, I think you hit on something with this comment. Selfishness. I may get flamed for saying this, but the whole IVF thing doesn't sit well morally with me. I realize some want children so very badly, but is this really what God wants? does he want woman to take these risks all for a child, when there are so many to adopt? I have two biological children so I don't know what it's like to not be able to have a child, but at the same time it seems so risky to put your body through so much. I also see a "you owe us" type of attitude with them.
I agree that I have some troubles with IVF. It, too, doesn't sit well with me. It seems like the type of thing that can get out of control at some point down the line (in the general sense).
As for Jon & Kate. I've known so many couples like that...bossy/pushy wife, passive husband (or vise versa). I have found that the passive person seeks out the aggressive one. If they got a divorce tomorrow, the passive spouse would seek out a new domineering spouse to replace them. Does it make the situation right? No. But, some people (I'm guessing) seek out that type of person cuz they need someone to be "in charge" and they don't want to be.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/28/2009 10:36:17 AM
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I watch the show on occasion. My children get a kick out of it a times. I have always felt for Jon, because she seems to always run right over him. I have seen her mellow out with time, and you can see her making comments about, 'See how I didn't freak out!". It shows to me she knows she is overbearing. I think she can have her personality traits all she wants, but I think they would be more acceptable if she used a bit more respect for others. She is disrespectful towards him, and others as well from what I have seen. Quick frankly I think she is downright rude at times.
There does seem to be some true love between the two of them, and I hope she truly LOOKS at his discomfort before making a decision to continue the series. The series isn't worth their relationship for goodness sakes! She tends to push until she gets what she wants, and I hope she sees the serious nature of his attitude towards the show. It could be the downfall of all of them if she doesn't.
She bothers me personally.  I admire some traits about her like her organization. lol goodness knows I could more of that! Her true love for her children is there as well, but she needs to place things in prospective.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 3/30/2009 12:25:24 PM
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My sister told me that they had their last show this week and they are taking down the camera's etc.
Is this true?
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/3/2009 12:29:48 PM
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Yeah, I have a hard time relating to the Duggars too. No offense to them, but they seem a little lacking in emotions. Although, Kate can show a few too many for my tastes too...lol.
I just read they're signed to do another season. So, we can see how Kate works out her OCD or anger management--what-ever it is.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/3/2009 8:12:31 PM
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Though Clomid is generally on the "safer" end of that.
In a situation of secondary infertility, I took Clomid for 6 months and didn't get pregnant. Hence, from personal experience, I know it doesn't always work, let alone resulting in multiple fertilizations. In the idea conception phase, it might have been worth the risk to them...and obviously they had a very different outcome than mine.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/4/2009 12:56:11 PM
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Being an infertile woman, I went through all that emotion on just wanting to get pregnant. I'm not sure what Kate went through but wanting to have a child ...sometimes you'd go through all kinds of measures and I'm sure in Kate's heart...this might had been her last chance and I'm sure they prayed about it. They're blessed that they have their babies. I also took Clomid and did not work. God just had a different plan for us...adoption instead of pregnancy. We might look at her as this off the wall, overbearing woman but I have to agree ....the babies are happy. We might blame her for her relationship with Jon....but it takes two - for them to work it out. I know a lot of couples just like them in the beginning and when the kids were small and for most of them....that's what works and amazingly, through years of growing up and sticking together...they mature in their relationship with each other.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/4/2009 10:35:15 PM
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God says He knew us before we were born, that each of us were knit by Him in the womb.
If we believe that about our ONE child births, why would we doubt that about someone else SIX child birth? It really doesn't matter how those children were conceived. GOD CREATED THEM. He used those doctors, that situation of infertility, those parents to create what was His Will. Those six children.
I think that people need to stop looking at Kate Gosselin as a television character and start praying for her as a fellow Christian sister and mother.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/4/2009 10:52:45 PM
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I think that people need to stop looking at Kate Gosselin as a television character and start praying for her as a fellow Christian sister and mother.
I so agree with you.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/5/2009 2:07:37 PM
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If we believe that about our ONE child births, why would we doubt that about someone else SIX child birth? It really doesn't matter how those children were conceived. GOD CREATED THEM. He used those doctors, that situation of infertility, those parents to create what was His Will. Those six children.
Can anyone say, "Octomom!"
So it's always God's will to have a child and it doesn't matter how one goes about it?
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Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/5/2009 4:42:36 PM
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I think that Jon & Kate both have mental health issues and that is why they are together.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/6/2009 1:22:45 PM
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I have not been in that situation so will admit that I don't understand, however since they already had two children they probably should have listened to their doctor. I could understand more if they had no children but they didn't they had the twins.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/7/2009 3:04:15 PM
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And that's what bugs me. In the book, Kate admits that Jon didn't want any more children, but that she basically guilted him into having more. No wonder he's so unhappy now....he must have had a heart attack when the doctor told them...
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/8/2009 7:26:29 AM
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Kate wasn't just told to skip the cycle, she was hospitalized for over-stimulated ovaries - they definitely knew the risk was HUGE, and decided to do it anyways.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/8/2009 7:54:27 AM
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I can't stand the show or even thinking about what this guy is going through. Poor schmuck! I look forward to hearing about the season where he actually grows a spine.
Do they seriously refer to their situation as a blessing from God? I believe they are mistaken. This seems more like consequences from bad decisions.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/8/2009 5:44:40 PM
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So could anyone tell me what exactly happened on the Finale...I've only seen a couple clips from it on youtube. But I'm totally bummed that I missed it! Thanks.
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RE: Jon and Kate Gosselin - 4/9/2009 4:44:07 AM
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I still think a Kate Gosselin/Michelle Duggar episode of Wife Swap would be funny.
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She's a completely different person in the book, sweet and lovely and Bible quoting. It was totally wierd.
I think every one of the Gosselin children was created by God and is loved by him. I believe that even when humans do things outside his perfect will in regards to childbearing, He often redeems that situation with the children he gives. 
