RE: Barack Obama's plan for Israel.. how does it effect the end times?
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RE: Barack Obama's plan for Israel.. how does it effect... - 11/18/2008 2:11:49 PM
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jerowhy
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The land of Canaan which was cursed by Noah was renamed to Israel after being cursed by Moses for a time. Therefore why would anyone want to inherit a cursed land that is figuratively called sodom and Egypt; instead? The True Land is what remains after the gathering to The House in accordance with what was done. There will no longer be a curse is Promised in Paradise; for there is no evil found there; nor any uncleaness of any sort. The kings of Israel were not often buried with the Patriarchs for the wickedness that they had done. They were buried in the valley of kings (Jehoshaphat is written for the rebellious to have their decision placed) that had sold out to the devil. We are foreigners in any land until accepted and received into eternal dwellings for God Will Make His Sup and House In Us and With Us Forever.
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RE: Barack Obama's plan for Israel.. how does it effect... - 11/18/2008 2:17:41 PM
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ta_mosquito
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jerowhy - please stick to topic, which is about how Barack Obama's peace plan for Israel does or does not affect the end times.
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RE: Barack Obama's plan for Israel.. how does it effect... - 11/18/2008 2:23:59 PM
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SonicStudent
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So I don't see the problem here at all. We agree that Israel is gathered. We agree that it is those from the children of Israel that see the returned Christ and mourne because they didn't believe the first time, hence the remnant of Israel will be grafted back into Their Olive vine.
Israel will be saved, yes, those that don't believe will be treated as the gentile that didn't believe and not included, as their is one Sheppard, one Messiah, one way. But the land will be saved, and 'believing' Israel will inherit it.
Where's our problem here? I don't want to have to spend an hour pulling out scriptures as I'm busy and I'm on here for friendly debate. Not for every statement I make to be as if it was being charged before a court of law. It's friendly debate. I feel quite sure you are aware of the scriptures I refer too regarding God's promises to Abraham's future land, and the scriptures to do with Israel being gathered too.
I write sharing opinions, disagree fine, but not with a sermon, this is a forum, not the pulpit, so I speak as a forum. If people ask me for scriptures to debate in a friendly mannor, and i have time i'm always glad too. But at the same time, I try not to get into a scripture battle with people that are not open for friendly debate, but really have already made their mind up and just want a fight. Friendly debate i'm all for, a fight not. So please, I respect your view, and I have mine. Lets not get into beating each other with scripture so we can feel that we are the winner. Not into that at all.
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RE: Barack Obama's plan for Israel.. how does it effect... - 11/18/2008 4:50:31 PM
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jerowhy
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Sorry, I'll try to keep it shorter and on topic. If Israel, Egypt, and Syria are written to serve God together; then Blessed are the peacemakers, they are the sons of the Living God.
Such a Peace seems favorable, however, one must understand that if the Peace will not be adhered to by the parties that there may come other more drastic consequences in response to the party that imposes the problem. Israel seems to be giving too many concessions and I do not expect them to want to perform on this as it is; at this time. Now is it in the interests of a certain britainical club to ask such concessions be made. Some Love is stronger than monetary concerns are and some must move diplomacy to the front in order to gain the monetarty results for IMF; if I understand the news correctly.
What does Israel receive, in return? Acceptance by groups to wheylay a possible strike by Iran?
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jerowhy - please stick to topic, which is about how Barack Obama's peace plan for Israel does or does not affect the end times.
Thanks!
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< Message edited by jerowhy -- 11/18/2008 5:26:56 PM >
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