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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 3:54:22 PM
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And? Did anyone in that thread attempt to defend Mcveigh? If not then my comment stands that your point is useless. No, but the two aren't comparable. One killed hundreds of people the other managed to do some property damage. Never mind. I retract the comparison.
And I think you guys need to get a life. Ayers has left his terrorist ways behind YEARS ago.
Property damage? Only by the grace of God and only if you don't include the people killed in their robbery. How many would have died had they not messed up and blown up their bomb making area? Ayers has only left the terrorist ways behind out of necessity, he shows zero remorse for it and is now molding the minds of college students.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 3:56:17 PM
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And? Did anyone in that thread attempt to defend Mcveigh? If not then my comment stands that your point is useless. No, but the two aren't comparable. One killed hundreds of people the other managed to do some property damage. Never mind. I retract the comparison.
And I think you guys need to get a life. Ayers has left his terrorist ways behind YEARS ago.
Actually he just turned his subversive tactics on the education system.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 5:18:37 PM
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worst quote of the day...
William Ayers said, ""I never hurt or killed anyone," he said....
HUH? Is that like Hitler saying, "I didn't do anything wrong....i never "PERSONALLY" hurt or killed anyone"???
and, even if he didn't....it's not as if he wasn't TRYING to hurt/kill....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081114/ap_on_re_us/obama_ayers_9
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 5:25:39 PM
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Actually he just turned his subversive tactics on the education system.
Probably because he, along with a boatload of his 60's love-generation komrades realized they could inflict a great deal more damage on this country there than in anywhere else. And, as we see, it's been quite effective.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 5:47:18 PM
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Tell that to the families of the people that died at the hands of Ayers and associates. Typical 'sensitive' liberal comment. 
They weren't 'terrorist' acts. They were TERRORIST acts that KILLED people!
Nice ending...'Get a life.' Tell that one to the families of those who died too. Your post made me want to throw up. Get a life? 40 years ago?
You probably weren't even born 40 years ago. But, I was. And, I remember their TERRORISTS ACTS like it was yesterday. 40 years from now, see how fresh McVeigh is in YOUR mind.
"I might have a problem with it."... "Get a life."... Maybe, GROW UP is the best return advice you could get.
I want you to read this article and remember a man that simply went to work one day and never returned... and, a policeman that answered the call for help and never returned to his home either. All because Ayer's buddies needed a little cash. If you don't want to remain woefully ignorant of the terror this idiots unleashed on innocent people you might take a few minutes and read the whole article.
I usually don't ever get angry in forums. but, willful ignorance, coupled with arrogance is one of those things that will do it... especially when the ignorance dismisses the loss of life as you have done.
Hmmm... maybe you could tell that to Nyack Police Officers Waverly Brown and Sgt. Edward O'Grady. Hey Brown and Grady! Relady says to "Get a Life!" Ooops! I'm sorry it's too late for that now, isn't it. After all, it WAS almost 40 years ago!!! So, let's just forget it and play nice with all those former Weathermen educators. They've certainly gotten a life. Their FRIENDS of a PRESIDENT. Isn't THAT peachy!
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If Bill Ayers were still practicing his particular brand of "terrorism" I might have a problem with it, but he's not. No he's not apologetic about what he did, but so what? It was 40 years ago, the "terrorist" acts they committed were not even comparable to Tim McVeigh or other terrorists we have today. Good grief, people. Get a life!
< Message edited by TMeeks -- 11/14/2008 6:19:36 PM >
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 6:21:12 PM
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Hmmm... maybe you could tell that to Nyack Police Officers Waverly Brown and Sgt. Edward O'Grady. Hey Brown and Grady! Relady says to "Get a Life!" Ooops! I'm sorry it's too late for that now, isn't it. After all, it WAS amost 40 years ago!!! So, let's just forget it and play nice with all those former Weathermen educators. They've certianly goten a life. Their FRIENDS of a PRESIDENT. Isn't THAT peachy!
Speaking of 40 years ago, how 'bout that McCarthy thread? It appears that you are having trouble substatiating your assertion that all of the people McCarthy accused were communists. Is this the only assertion that you have trouble substantiating? Or are there others?
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I usually don't ever get angry in forums. but, willful ignorance, coupled with arrogance is one of those things that will do it... especially when the ignorance dismisses the loss of life as you have done.
I really don't think relady's statement calls for said anger.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 7:53:18 PM
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I really don't think relady's statement calls for said anger.
It does to those that were targets of Ayer's terrorist acts. Is the delusion that strong? I am sincerely asking. Because people seem to excuse anything, literally anything, for Obama. Wow.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 9:24:29 PM
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The answers to your questions on that thread demand time. Believe me, I WILL get to it. 
But, remember I said that of those that were accused as being communists, not a single one was accused unjustly. Expanding that to those accused of harboring those and claiming that he called THEM communists is YOUR claim. Not mine.
As for the angry tone of my answer to relady, it WAS both justified and necessary. Ayers and all those that rode with him did a great deal of harm not only in THIS country; but, others. He has a LOT of blood on his hands, including all those killed in the genocide by the communist regimes that he loved when the radicals got what they wanted and we left Viet Nam.
MILLIONS were murdered AFTER we moved out of Vietnam, the vast majority of which would still be alive if it weren't for people like Ayers and Dohrn. Cambodia 1,700,000 to 2,000,000 dead under the Communist Pol Pot. At least 8,000 were Christians.
Over 2,000,000 civilians died in Vietnam, the bulk of which were AFTER we left.
The history of the the radical left, and the communist regimes they love, around the world has been bloody and brutal.
So, I have more against Ayers than the bombs and bullets his minions spread around.
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Hmmm... maybe you could tell that to Nyack Police Officers Waverly Brown and Sgt. Edward O'Grady. Hey Brown and Grady! Relady says to "Get a Life!" Ooops! I'm sorry it's too late for that now, isn't it. After all, it WAS amost 40 years ago!!! So, let's just forget it and play nice with all those former Weathermen educators. They've certianly goten a life. Their FRIENDS of a PRESIDENT. Isn't THAT peachy!
Speaking of 40 years ago, how 'bout that McCarthy thread? It appears that you are having trouble substatiating your assertion that all of the people McCarthy accused were communists. Is this the only assertion that you have trouble substantiating? Or are there others?
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I usually don't ever get angry in forums. but, willful ignorance, coupled with arrogance is one of those things that will do it... especially when the ignorance dismisses the loss of life as you have done.
I really don't think relady's statement calls for said anger.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 9:29:00 PM
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Speaking of 40 years ago, how 'bout that McCarthy thread? It appears that you are having trouble substatiating your assertion that all of the people McCarthy accused were communists. Is this the only assertion that you have trouble substantiating? Or are there others?
Just takin' a page out of the liberals' handbook!
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 9:36:06 PM
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We also shouldn't forget about the liberal media. Why are they just now *really* giving this airtime and attention? Post-election image clean up?
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/14/2008 11:21:21 PM
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It's so that 3 years from now it can be called "old news" which means instantly dismissed as important.
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We also shouldn't forget about the liberal media. Why are they just now *really* giving this airtime and attention? Post-election image clean up?
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/16/2008 11:42:50 PM
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Thanks for the reminder about the importance of "framing" the issues effectively. :)
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It's so that 3 years from now it can be called "old news" which means instantly dismissed as important.
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We also shouldn't forget about the liberal media. Why are they just now *really* giving this airtime and attention? Post-election image clean up?
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/19/2008 8:56:11 PM
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People trying to make a tangible Obama/Ayers connection are really grasping at straws at this point. This line of attack was so weak, even John McCain was going to abandon it before Palin started blabbing about it.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/20/2008 4:00:31 AM
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People trying to make a tangible Obama/Ayers connection are really grasping at straws at this point. This line of attack was so weak, even John McCain was going to abandon it before Palin started blabbing about it.
Just because John McCain's moronic advisers told him not to use something agains BO doesn't mean that it isn't an issue. If you didn't notice McCain's campaign missed countless opportunities.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/20/2008 8:27:46 AM
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People trying to make a tangible Obama/Ayers connection are really grasping at straws at this point. This line of attack was so weak, even John McCain was going to abandon it before Palin started blabbing about it.
Yes, this is why Ayers himself just admitted his relationship with Obama and certified Obama lied to us all.
Yes, this is why Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc were all untouched by the mainstream media until after Obama was elected.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/20/2008 8:33:12 AM
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People trying to make a tangible Obama/Ayers connection are really grasping at straws at this point. This line of attack was so weak, even John McCain was going to abandon it before Palin started blabbing about it.
Did we see the same interview ? you must have slept thru his interview !
Yes, this is why Ayers himself just admitted his relationship with Obama and certified Obama lied to us all.
Yes, this is why Ayers, Rezko, Wright, etc were all untouched by the mainstream media until after Obama was elected.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/20/2008 8:36:24 AM
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Did we see the same interview ? you must have slept thru his interview !
Yes, we saw the same interview. Obama's statement of, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.." is a bold-faced lie.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/20/2008 8:48:25 AM
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She probaly doesn't have a problem with abortion either. It seems people like her are ok with the taking of any innocent life as long as they think their purses and wallets will be padded up a bit.
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Tell that to the families of the people that died at the hands of Ayers and associates. Typical 'sensitive' liberal comment.
They weren't 'terrorist' acts. They were TERRORIST acts that KILLED people!
Nice ending...'Get a life.' Tell that one to the families of those who died too. Your post made me want to throw up. Get a life? 40 years ago?
You probably weren't even born 40 years ago. But, I was. And, I remember their TERRORISTS ACTS like it was yesterday. 40 years from now, see how fresh McVeigh is in YOUR mind.
"I might have a problem with it."... "Get a life."... Maybe, GROW UP is the best return advice you could get.
I want you to read this article and remember a man that simply went to work one day and never returned... and, a policeman that answered the call for help and never returned to his home either. All because Ayer's buddies needed a little cash. If you don't want to remain woefully ignorant of the terror this idiots unleashed on innocent people you might take a few minutes and read the whole article.
I usually don't ever get angry in forums. but, willful ignorance, coupled with arrogance is one of those things that will do it... especially when the ignorance dismisses the loss of life as you have done.
Hmmm... maybe you could tell that to Nyack Police Officers Waverly Brown and Sgt. Edward O'Grady. Hey Brown and Grady! Relady says to "Get a Life!" Ooops! I'm sorry it's too late for that now, isn't it. After all, it WAS almost 40 years ago!!! So, let's just forget it and play nice with all those former Weathermen educators. They've certainly gotten a life. Their FRIENDS of a PRESIDENT. Isn't THAT peachy!
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If Bill Ayers were still practicing his particular brand of "terrorism" I might have a problem with it, but he's not. No he's not apologetic about what he did, but so what? It was 40 years ago, the "terrorist" acts they committed were not even comparable to Tim McVeigh or other terrorists we have today. Good grief, people. Get a life!
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/23/2008 10:38:51 AM
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Obama should nominate William Ayers as Secretary of Dead Horse Beating.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/24/2008 8:42:44 AM
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Yes, we saw the same interview. Obama's statement of, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.." is a bold-faced lie.
He didn't tell us that he put an endorcement on Ayers book inorder to help Ayers make money did he.
Obama lies a lot from what I can see.
He lied about how he would fund his campaign.
He lied about his chruch.
He lied about his faith ... claiming it to be the Christian faith.
He lied about his friendship with Ayers.
He lied about bringing Change to government when he ran against Hilary.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/24/2008 8:48:30 AM
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No, but the two aren't comparable. One killed hundreds of people the other managed to do some property damage. Never mind. I retract the comparison.
And I think you guys need to get a life. Ayers has left his terrorist ways behind YEARS ago.
I guess we can also say that Charlie Manson never killed anyone either and he left his cult leader ways behind years ago.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/25/2008 6:26:01 PM
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He lied about bringing Change to government when he ran against Hilary.
That's a cool trick since he isn't even *in* government yet!
You will see plenty of change when it comes to policy, though I predict you will probably not like it much of it.
Hint: Obama's relationship with Ayers became utterly irrelevant the day after election day (not that many found them relevant before that). Obama will be judged solely on his actions as president come Jan 20th 2009.
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RE: :: President-Elect Obama & William Ayers - 11/26/2008 9:34:34 AM
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Obama will be judged solely on his actions as president come Jan 20th 2009.
Because we all know that if the tables were turned the same would apply for a conservative with radical and racist ties.
Yup, you're right.
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