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ORIGINAL: ManimalX

Shoot, I may just have to become Catholic if they have wise and strong leaders like this!

Of course I am kidding, but I wonder why there haven't been more prominent Protestant pastors/preachers/reverends/ministers that have stated the truth as boldly as this. Too many namby-pambies out there who aren't willing to stand on God's word.

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ORIGINAL: ManimalX

Do you not see the hypocrisy in skipping along into the church singing, "I believe it is OK to slaughter pre-born babies in the womb, and it is OK for two men to mock marriage, and now I am going to go honor Christ by remembering his broken body and shed blood. La-la-la-la-la-la"?

Ridiculous.

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hypocrisy

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

.http://news.yahoo.com/i/964

Well, if he were ordained by God to do so, you'd think he'd be able to tell who voted for Obama and who didn't.

This is all you can come up with in rebuttal?

Hahahahaha!


I love this:

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Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation

Shoot, I may just have to become Catholic if they have wise and strong leaders like this!

Of course I am kidding, but I wonder why there haven't been more prominent Protestant pastors/preachers/reverends/ministers that have stated the truth as boldly as this. Too many namby-pambies out there who aren't willing to stand on God's word.

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ORIGINAL: sue244

I applaude the Priest for holding to the Principles of the church. I think its about time that American Churches rediscover this little thing called Church Discipline. I think that if more churches practicecd church discipline like they are suppose to America would not be in the shape it is today.

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In a potentially landmark decision, the United Methodist Church has ruled that a transgender pastor who applied for a name change can remain in the ministry. The decision in case of the Rev. Drew Phoenix was released on Tuesday by the church's Judicial Council.

The United Methodist Church, or UMC, bans gay people from serving as clergy, but its Book of Discipline makes no mention of transsexual people. "Essentially, they said that I'm a pastor in good standing and therefore I'm appointable," says Phoenix, who leads St. John's in Baltimore.

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ORIGINAL: ManimalX

Do you not see the hypocrisy in skipping along into the church singing, "I believe it is OK to slaughter pre-born babies in the womb, and it is OK for two men to mock marriage, and now I am going to go honor Christ by remembering his broken body and shed blood. La-la-la-la-la-la"?

Ridiculous.

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It is true that verse in the Bible that says if you take communion with sin (unworthily) then it can cause you to get sick and/or die.

Our church believes in that too.... just as we take the other parts of the bible as true.

that guy up there calling someone a nutter because of this ought to read his bible to see that it is true.

I have on purpose skipped communion last time because I didn't think I was right with the Lord at that time.

You all better take Gods Word seriously.

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ORIGINAL: P31W
I think you are only seeing sickness as "physical" illness.

It also appears that you have put a "time limit" on God's ability to do what he says.

Malachi the prophet spoke plainly to people about that idea as well.

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It is true that verse in the Bible that says if you take communion with sin (unworthily) then it can cause you to get sick and/or die.

Our church believes in that too.... just as we take the other parts of the bible as true.

that guy up there calling someone a nutter because of this ought to read his bible to see that it is true.

I have on purpose skipped communion last time because I didn't think I was right with the Lord at that time.

You all better take Gods Word seriously.

This is a great point. I've been taking communion for the past five years since I voted for Kerry in 2004 and I've never gotten sick from taking communion. Paul does warn us that we should take communion seriously- that our forgiveness comes with a price, but he didn't warn us that God takes our votes- or our Babel-inspired government- seriously.

Any liberal voters out there gotten sick?

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ORIGINAL: Born_Again

John 3:16 “ God so loved the republican that He gave His one and only son, whosoever vote republican shall not parish but have everlasting life”

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When I take part in communion, I pray and ask the Holy Spirit, to search my heart for sin known and unknown. I think Christians just do not have a grey area dfense in abortion, and homosexuality. Really things are not discribed in the Bible as black and white, but darkness and light. Thre is no defense for supporting these issues called evil. Now the Lord never condemed war, or capital punishment. Jesus Christ did offer eternal life to murderers. Notice, he did not take the thieves off the cross. John Kerry, was not as out right evil, and blood thirsty as Obama.

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ORIGINAL: Born_Again

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

When I take part in communion, I pray and ask the Holy Spirit, to search my heart for sin known and unknown. I think Christians just do not have a grey area dfense in abortion, and homosexuality. Really things are not discribed in the Bible as black and white, but darkness and light. Thre is no defense for supporting these issues called evil. Now the Lord never condemed war, or capital punishment. Jesus Christ did offer eternal life to murderers. Notice, he did not take the thieves off the cross. John Kerry, was not as out right evil, and blood thirsty as Obama.

For the argument sake, lets say voting for Obama is sin. Now you telling me if I ask for forgiveness from God, I wouldn’t be forgiven?

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

When I take part in communion, I pray and ask the Holy Spirit, to search my heart for sin known and unknown. I think Christians just do not have a grey area dfense in abortion, and homosexuality. Really things are not discribed in the Bible as black and white, but darkness and light. Thre is no defense for supporting these issues called evil. Now the Lord never condemed war, or capital punishment. Jesus Christ did offer eternal life to murderers. Notice, he did not take the thieves off the cross. John Kerry, was not as out right evil, and blood thirsty as Obama.

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Sounds like someone is trying to hedge their bets- surely, 20% of the population must have gotten physically ill, rather than just spiritually or mentally. Surely there must be some people out there who've been getting physically sick from taking communion?

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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

When I take part in communion, I pray and ask the Holy Spirit, to search my heart for sin known and unknown. I think Christians just do not have a grey area dfense in abortion, and homosexuality. Really things are not discribed in the Bible as black and white, but darkness and light. Thre is no defense for supporting these issues called evil. Now the Lord never condemed war, or capital punishment. Jesus Christ did offer eternal life to murderers. Notice, he did not take the thieves off the cross. John Kerry, was not as out right evil, and blood thirsty as Obama.

Well, I think the only Presidents in the past 50 years that the Catholics might be happy with would be Eisenhower, JFK, and maybe Carter.

In any case, claims that votes for certain political parties violate the will of God ignores the purpose of the political system. If everyone votes a certain way because a vocal minority says that you're going to hell if you vote for so-and-so, we are better off with a dictatorship.

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ORIGINAL: Born_Again

For the argument sake, lets say voting for Obama is sin. Now you telling me if I ask for forgiveness from God, I wouldn’t be forgiven?

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ORIGINAL: Born_Again

For the argument sake, lets say voting for Obama is sin. Now you telling me if I ask for forgiveness from God, I wouldn’t be forgiven?

I don't believe that lightshineon is saying that and i know the priest in the OP isn't saying that. The priest simply, rightly so, asked that those who knowingly support an openly proabortion candidate seek roconciliation through penance prior to partaking of communion.

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Well, I think the only Presidents in the past 50 years that the Catholics might be happy with would be Eisenhower, JFK, and maybe Carter.

In any case, claims that votes for certain political parties violate the will of God ignores the purpose of the political system. If everyone votes a certain way because a vocal minority says that you're going to hell if you vote for so-and-so, we are better off with a dictatorship.

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ORIGINAL: lightshineon

No, I did mean that in my post, or the priest did not say that.

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Well, I think the only Presidents in the past 50 years that the Catholics might be happy with would be Eisenhower, JFK, and maybe Carter.

In any case, claims that votes for certain political parties violate the will of God ignores the purpose of the political system. If everyone votes a certain way because a vocal minority says that you're going to hell if you vote for so-and-so, we are better off with a dictatorship.

So Christians shouldn't vote their conscience?