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RE: John McCain on Jay Leno - 11/12/2008 10:36:17 PM
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writerchick
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I wouldn't be so quick to jump on the three decades ago bandwagon. Not when he was romantically linked with a lobbyist as late as last February.
Jiminy Cricket. You drive me up a wall. Any other falsified gossip or slander you would like to add to the conversation? Or did you get it all out of your system with this one?
Again, someone shows Obama holding a Sequoia tree, and some liberal whack-a-mole comes back crying about McCain holding a toothpick.
I call toothpick shenanigans. 
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just relaying what I read in the news. I don't remember where, but I think her name was Elizabeth. The McCain campaign had to scramble to keep the two of them apart.
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RE: John McCain on Jay Leno - 11/13/2008 12:47:26 AM
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writerchick
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Her name is Vicki Iseman. Both she and McCain say he claim is bogus. It was a RUMOR perpetuated by the *fanfare* *drumroll* New York Times. Big shocker, the NYT "reported" rumor as fact. 
LOL! What did you expect them to say?
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RE: John McCain on Jay Leno - 11/13/2008 9:26:31 AM
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blessedinnyc
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I guess this goes back to the same thing it always does with Obama when the issue of morality comes up: he has personally tried via his power and influence in the government to make it easier and more acceptable to murder the unborn, to make it easier and more acceptable to practice homosexuality, and wishes to punish hard working folks by taking their wages and giving it to people who didn't work for it. He has disdain for the Constitution, which it is now his job to defend and uphold, which is a bit hypocritical at the least.
Also, I would like to say that you surprise me by harping on McCain's adultery. A dishonorable thing that happened THREE DECADES AGO and for which he has repeatedly apologized for and repented from. He has been married now for almost longer than I have been alive, does that earn him points in your book?
This simply means that he supports unbiblical politics. It doesn't make him an immoral person.
Has HE had an abortion? Engaged in sexual immorality? NO.
Supporting something might make you misguided; it does not make you immoral.
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RE: John McCain on Jay Leno - 11/13/2008 9:38:41 AM
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ManimalX
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This simply means that he supports unbiblical politics. It doesn't make him an immoral person.
Has HE had an abortion? Engaged in sexual immorality? NO.
Supporting something might make you misguided; it does not make you immoral.
Wrong. As usual. Obama, through his voting, calls evil "good". He is guilty of sins of commission (doing something he shouldn't), and sins of omission (not doing something he should). He used his position of power to support sinful things, when he is supposed to use his position of power to oppose sinful things. He is also deceitful and regularly lied about his voting record and involvement in certain committees. All of this makes him immoral.
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immoral. (n.d.). Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary. Retrieved November 13, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immoral
Not moral; inconsistent with rectitude, purity, or good morals; contrary to conscience or the divine law; wicked; unjust; dishonest; vicious; licentious
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RE: John McCain on Jay Leno - 11/13/2008 9:46:38 AM
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blessedinnyc
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Wrong. As usual. Obama, through his voting, calls evil "good". He is guilty of sins of commission (doing something he shouldn't), and sins of omission (not doing something he should). He used his position of power to support sinful things, when he is supposed to use his position of power to oppose sinful things. He is also deceitful and regularly lied about his voting record and involvement in certain committees. All of this makes him immoral.
I think you need to study the difference between fact and opinion. Opinions aren't wrong; facts sometimes are.
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immoral. (n.d.). Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary. Retrieved November 13, 2008, from Dictionary.com website: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/immoral
Not moral; inconsistent with rectitude, purity, or good morals; contrary to conscience or the divine law; wicked; unjust; dishonest; vicious; licentious
Exactly, and immoral people do immoral things. Therefore, by modus tollens, someone who does not do immoral things is not immoral.
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