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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez

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Above you claimed she was a "socialist in disguise", please inform me why you believe this to be true. Not saying she will reverse current policies does not make her a closet communist

It does if our current policies are Marxist.

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No it doesn't, now showing support for current policies would but simply not speaking out against them on the campaign trail is not proof of socialism in disguise.

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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez

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No it doesn't, now showing support for current policies would but simply not speaking out against them on the campaign trail is not proof of socialism in disguise.

You are incorrect. Your error does not, however, absolve Palin from being a socialist.

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Please inform me of anything she has done that proves she is a socialist in disguise. Despite your assertations her not speaking out specifcally against something that YOU think to be socialist DOES NOT make her a socialist.

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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez

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No it doesn't, now showing support for current policies would but simply not speaking out against them on the campaign trail is not proof of socialism in disguise.

You are incorrect. Your error does not, however, absolve Palin from being a socialist.

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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez
Again in error.

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Well, she supported the Marxist "bailout" of the American financial industry, for one.

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Where in the world do you get the idea that Palin is a socialist? She was the most conservative person on the republican ticket. The far left and the near left (moderates) want to eliminate conservativism entirely. Thus, they tried to crucify her.

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You absolutely threw away your vote; that is what voting for a candidate who cannot win means. It's no different than staying home and watching tv election day.

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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez

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Where in the world do you get the idea that Palin is a socialist? She was the most conservative person on the republican ticket. The far left and the near left (moderates) want to eliminate conservativism entirely. Thus, they tried to crucify her.

Saying that Palin is more conservative than W or MacCain or Romney or Huckabee isn't saying much. And the woman is an embarrassment to real conservatives (not the same as the GOP).

I understand that many people like her because she is anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc. Just because her church and your church have the same moral policies does not, however, mean that she is a conservative.

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Saying that Palin is more conservative than W or MacCain or Romney or Huckabee isn't saying much. And the woman is an embarrassment to real conservatives (not the same as the GOP).

I understand that many people like her because she is anti-abortion, anti-gay, etc. Just because her church and your church have the same moral policies does not, however, mean that she is a conservative.

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What is socialist about Sarah? Honestly wondering.

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Why are the lefties on this board so obsessed with Sarah Palin? Shouldn't you be busy getting ready to celebrate the inauguration?

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ORIGINAL: Jhud

Why are the lefties on this board so obsessed with Sarah Palin? Shouldn't you be busy getting ready to celebrate the inauguration?

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ORIGINAL: ekserekseez

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anyone who didn't vote for McCain helped put Obama in office, plain and simple.

Now you sound like a Democrat whining about Ralph Nader in 2000.

I voted my conscience. I voted Barr. I did NOT throw away my vote. Those who elected the communist Obama threw away their votes. Those who voted for the socialist McCain threw away their votes.

Real conservatives are tired of phony RINOs, "values voters" and other varieties of fake conservatives. The GOP has proved once and for all that it is too tained to reform itself.

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So you admitted that you didn't need Sarah Palin on the ticket. McCain lost the independent vote all for nothing?

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Why are the lefties on this board so obsessed with Sarah Palin? Shouldn't you be busy getting ready to celebrate the inauguration?

I'm not a lefty-I'm a moderate, but I opposed her due to her contempt for and discourteous treatment of Native people in Alaska. I realize that's not important to the rest of you, but it is to me as a Native person. We're still having to fight for survival after 516 yrs and that's something that shouldn't still be.

Anyone who calls themselves christian and yet takes actions against the rights of a people to feed themselves and take care of their own families and communities as guaranteed by law should concern those who believe the Lord's commands to "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Love even the least of these as I have loved you".

It's not okay to let industries dump toxic waste near ANY community, but minority communities- as they tend to lack economic and thus political power- tend to get dumped on more than white and especially affluent white communities.

Its not okay to take away the hunting and fishing rights of anyone who has no other way to get food.

It's not okay to take children away from their parents and extended family when the only issue is apparently poverty, and then seek to strip the family of their right to protest said action de facto.

All three are direct assaults upon the poor and powerless and upon the family- and most decidedly in violation of Christ's command to His followers, and yet these are actions Gov. Palin has taken against the Native people in her state. That is the problem I have with her. I support her pro-life stance and that she took on corruption in her state's government. I support her requirement for fiscal responsibility and wish all other elected officials would do so as well. I admire her dedication to her family and marriage- a great role model for anyone to follow. She's smart and tough, but she's not a friend to a sizeable population of her own state or to the rest of Native people in the lower 48.

If she can show me that she'll treat us with fairness and respect, she might earn my vote. Just saying she's christian is not reason enough- Custer was christian too.

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Thanks for the information. This is disturbing, and hardly the actions of a "conservative."

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ORIGINAL: Jhud

Why are the lefties on this board so obsessed with Sarah Palin? Shouldn't you be busy getting ready to celebrate the inauguration?

I'm not a lefty-I'm a moderate, but I opposed her due to her contempt for and discourteous treatment of Native people in Alaska. I realize that's not important to the rest of you, but it is to me as a Native person. We're still having to fight for survival after 516 yrs and that's something that shouldn't still be.

Anyone who calls themselves christian and yet takes actions against the rights of a people to feed themselves and take care of their own families and communities as guaranteed by law should concern those who believe the Lord's commands to "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Love even the least of these as I have loved you".

It's not okay to let industries dump toxic waste near ANY community, but minority communities- as they tend to lack economic and thus political power- tend to get dumped on more than white and especially affluent white communities.

Its not okay to take away the hunting and fishing rights of anyone who has no other way to get food.

It's not okay to take children away from their parents and extended family when the only issue is apparently poverty, and then seek to strip the family of their right to protest said action de facto.

All three are direct assaults upon the poor and powerless and upon the family- and most decidedly in violation of Christ's command to His followers, and yet these are actions Gov. Palin has taken against the Native people in her state. That is the problem I have with her. I support her pro-life stance and that she took on corruption in her state's government. I support her requirement for fiscal responsibility and wish all other elected officials would do so as well. I admire her dedication to her family and marriage- a great role model for anyone to follow. She's smart and tough, but she's not a friend to a sizeable population of her own state or to the rest of Native people in the lower 48.

If she can show me that she'll treat us with fairness and respect, she might earn my vote. Just saying she's christian is not reason enough- Custer was christian too.

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Thanks for the information. This is disturbing, and hardly the actions of a "conservative."

Well there have been throughout American history conflicts between Native Americans and Federal and State governments; I hardly think it has anything to do with being conservative or liberal, and there is no evidence Palin is responsible (certainly not alone) for all the ills listed above.

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Can you explain how it is that a nation (whichever tribe from which you descend), or more generally a race of people who have been conquered, can still have a distinct cultural identity, several centuries after initial conquest?

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Its not okay to take away the hunting and fishing rights of anyone who has no other way to get food.

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Sarah was desiring to BRING MONEY INTO HER STATE, help make her state a financially stronger one and provide for her citizens a better way of life and way of making a living. She is the governor of ALL the citizens of alaska not just a "select group". I think her idea is a wise one. We need that type of good thinkers in washington.