|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Login  | |
|
Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 9:43:05 PM
|
|
|
bob97
Posts: 2019
Joined: 6/24/2006
From: Kansas
Status: offline
|
It has been suggested that if we want to discuss the possibility of the "Last Week" having begun or will shortly begin that we should start a new thread.
To the Moderator...I hope it is OK to bring current government leadership into this discussion...it seems that they maybe have a part to play in the outcome.
Bob
_____________________________
The LORD clears the road for me!
The LORD is my high ridge, my stronghold, my deliverer!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 9:56:22 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
Thanks Bob, it does seem common sense to chapter our threads a little better. It makes life easier to discuss.
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:05:26 PM
|
|
|
Dancre
Posts: 1307
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
what's the last week?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:09:42 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
I don't know about antone else, but I remember that for the last couple of years, many people have claimed through biblical studies, modern prophesies and signs in the heavens that 2008 was going to be a life changing year for the world. And I remember reading these right upto July this year thinking, 'well nothings happened yet'!
Well, I thing on a global scale, things have begun to change in a huge way now all of a sudden. Every week over here our politicians are talking about a cosmic global change in the worlds political infrastructure and talk openly like never before of a new world order. We hear all the time about the fear terrorism is bringing calling for the need for global policing and communications cooperation throughout the free world. And since Obama won the election (heaven only know what it is like in the States) Our news broadcasts are saying that a new world and new era has arisen, an era of hope brought through Obama, where we can all come together. It's scary, but it seems to me that 2008 predictions were on the money!
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:13:02 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
what's the last week?
Daniel's 70th week of prophecy. The final 7 years before Christ's return that sees Anti-Christ rise, a global world power and one world religion. Israel's enemies massed against her and the great tribulation during the final 3 1/2 years of that period. The Lords return to fight for the remnant of Israel etc etc
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:15:20 PM
|
|
|
Dancre
Posts: 1307
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
Opps, I started a thread on the tribulation. We may have dueling threads here. Mine can be deleted if necessary and I can just post my stuff on here.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:16:48 PM
|
|
|
Dancre
Posts: 1307
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
I really truly think this is the BIG it. Be ready, that's all you can do at this point. Be grafted in.
quote:
ORIGINAL: SonicStudent
I don't know about antone else, but I remember that for the last couple of years, many people have claimed through biblical studies, modern prophesies and signs in the heavens that 2008 was going to be a life changing year for the world. And I remember reading these right upto July this year thinking, 'well nothings happened yet'!
Well, I thing on a global scale, things have begun to change in a huge way now all of a sudden. Every week over here our politicians are talking about a cosmic global change in the worlds political infrastructure and talk openly like never before of a new world order. We hear all the time about the fear terrorism is bringing calling for the need for global policing and communications cooperation throughout the free world. And since Obama won the election (heaven only know what it is like in the States) Our news broadcasts are saying that a new world and new era has arisen, an era of hope brought through Obama, where we can all come together. It's scary, but it seems to me that 2008 predictions were on the money!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:18:59 PM
|
|
|
girlofmanycolors
Posts: 38
Joined: 5/3/2008
Status: offline
|
Thanks for the new thread, Bob. Here's one question I have regarding the tribulation being begun now: Isn't the "last week" supposed to begin officially by the signing of a peace treaty between the AC and Isreal?
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:28:56 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
Thanks for the new thread, Bob. Here's one question I have regarding the tribulation being begun now: Isn't the "last week" supposed to begin officially by the signing of a peace treaty between the AC and Isreal?
Yep, that's very true it is! - And the final week of literal prophecy won't begin until then, but that doesn't mean we are not entering it as we speak. There is a lot of building up going on, where the world is changing and getting into the conditions that we see present in that final week. Only a few short years ago, it was easy to believe that it may be years off, but since 9/11 and global terrorism, the one world order people have fast tracked their plans, and on top of that iniquity has gone mad and global environment problems and disasters seems to have up'd 10 gears.
But this year! Phew! Wake up call!
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:30:42 PM
|
|
|
Dancre
Posts: 1307
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
you mean this week has been a wake up call. My head is still spinning. I'm praying we'll be gone before the AC shows up.
quote:
ORIGINAL: SonicStudent
quote:
Thanks for the new thread, Bob. Here's one question I have regarding the tribulation being begun now: Isn't the "last week" supposed to begin officially by the signing of a peace treaty between the AC and Isreal?
Yep, that's very true it is! - And the final week of literal prophecy won't begin until then, but that doesn't mean we are not entering it as we speak. There is a lot of building up going on, where the world is changing and getting into the conditions that we see present in that final week. Only a few short years ago, it was easy to believe that it may be years off, but since 9/11 and global terrorism, the one world order people have fast tracked their plans, and on top of that iniquity has gone mad and global environment seems to have up'd 10 gears.
But this year! Phew! Wake up call!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:39:52 PM
|
|
|
girlofmanycolors
Posts: 38
Joined: 5/3/2008
Status: offline
|
Thanks, Sonic. That makes sense. I already knew the stage was being set, and the props are flying up far faster than I'd like. I have an eight year old son and the thought of the world he will grow up in scares me to death.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:42:43 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
you mean this week has been a wake up call. My head is still spinning. I'm praying we'll be gone before the AC shows up.
It's only a personal view, but I believe we have still a few short years before the final week. Years that will see some really bad times increasing (like birth pangs of a pregnant woman) Increasing and causing insecurity. Enabling world governments to bring in a World Order quickly because of national security issues and economic instability globally, requiring a global bank of some sort as nations break down internally.
Religious extremists will speed up the need for a one world multi-faith, where the 'TRUE' Christians won't be able to openly claim Christ as 'The Only Way', as it won't fit with the new religious order that requires acceptance of each faith on equal terms.
Don't get me wrong, i believe this can all happen very quickly under certain circumstances and extreme threatening conditions of national security. But I still feel, well, a little while.
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:45:46 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
quote:
Thanks, Sonic. That makes sense. I already knew the stage was being set, and the props are flying up far faster than I'd like. I have an eight year old son and the thought of the world he will grow up in scares me to death.
I know what you mean. I have 4 kids all under 13 and love them more than anything. The though of them being scared upsets me so much. And I wish I could believe it's all a big mistake and we are years off. I hope it is. But at the moment, i'd be lying to myself.
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 10:53:03 PM
|
|
|
Dancre
Posts: 1307
Joined: 4/12/2005
Status: offline
|
Don't be scared. God won't let you down, just trust in Him and you'll be ok.
quote:
ORIGINAL: SonicStudent
quote:
Thanks, Sonic. That makes sense. I already knew the stage was being set, and the props are flying up far faster than I'd like. I have an eight year old son and the thought of the world he will grow up in scares me to death.
I know what you mean. I have 4 kids all under 13 and love them more than anything. The though of them being scared upsets me so much. And I wish I could believe it's all a big mistake and we are years off. I hope it is. But at the moment, i'd be lying to myself.
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 11:00:23 PM
|
|
|
girlofmanycolors
Posts: 38
Joined: 5/3/2008
Status: offline
|
You're right. All we can do is trust Jesus and be prepared. 
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 11:04:30 PM
|
|
|
SonicStudent
Posts: 439
Joined: 10/20/2008
Status: offline
|
Yep, to be honest, i'm spending more and more time on here, and need to spend more in the bible. Get myself balanced.
_____________________________
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, and I will not remember your sins." Isaiah 43:25
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 11:30:57 PM
|
|
|
bob97
Posts: 2019
Joined: 6/24/2006
From: Kansas
Status: offline
|
Sonic…I understand the stigma attached to predicting the beginning or end of prophecy events, because apparently almost everyone if not everyone has been wrong for the last 2000 years. However that being said… I think we are either entering the last week or will very soon.
The bible tells us it will occur like a birth and believe me the pains are starting to come at an ever increasing rate. Everything around us is increasing its pace and things happen at a rate that is almost overwhelming. The world until six weeks ago was running on a pretty even keel regarding the economy and today the world is bankrupted. Every nation is spending monies at a rate that far exceeds income and the only way to do this is to print more. This will lead to inflation and a collapse of all governments. Our energy is controlled by a select few who desire imposing their religious view on the world and all nations are in jeopardy of energy bankruptcy.
America voted a bail out package of 700 Billion Dollars and suddenly that is not nearly sufficient. Banks need money, Auto Manufactures need money, Insurances Companies need money and Obama it seems will increase spending by One Trillion his first year in office. Where does all this money come from? We are not increasing our wealth and in fact last year we shipped 700 Billion to the Mid Eastern Countries for oil. America along all the nation of the world except for the oil countries are broke…busted.
America will almost certainly withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan and who will stop the Muslim fanatic from doing their will upon the world.
The only way for the world to overcome these problems is to come together in a global government and of course we know the outcome of this venture.
Israel is in a state or flux with great fear of Iran as well as their next door neighbors and their options are running out. The right man with connections in Islam could conclude that peace agreement in a very short order…anyone come to mind?
Some people will say"it's been worse before" "or things aren't that bay" and I say they have their heads in the sand.
No…I think we are there or will be within the next year.
I hope I’m wrong but I’m not going to let what may happen change my priorities…trusting in Christ. This is my goal regardless if the end happens next year or one hundred years from now.
For those in Christ…there is no end…only a new beginning.
Bob
_____________________________
The LORD clears the road for me!
The LORD is my high ridge, my stronghold, my deliverer!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/10/2008 11:34:12 PM
|
|
|
Zack_NorcalRiders
Posts: 149
Joined: 10/24/2008
Status: offline
|
ok so you guys think stronly that this will all begin next year ? when is the obvious sign that the end is coming . what is the next prophecy to be fullfilled ?
_____________________________
Lord forgive me for i have sinned , i hit a 4th gear jump 5th gear pinned
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 12:11:41 AM
|
|
|
bob97
Posts: 2019
Joined: 6/24/2006
From: Kansas
Status: offline
|
Zack...sadly we will not know until the middle of the week...when ever that occurs. That is when the Antichrist breaks the agreement and sets in the temple. For the first three and one half years we will be relying upon our intuition.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the rebellion comes6 and the man of lawlessness7 is revealed, the son of destruction.8
2Th 2:4 He9 opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, and as a result he takes his seat 10 in God's temple, displaying himself as God.11
One could say we will know when the covenant is signed but there have been several of those so I don’t think that another one will tell us anything…other then make us speculate.
Bob
_____________________________
The LORD clears the road for me!
The LORD is my high ridge, my stronghold, my deliverer!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 12:35:47 AM
|
|
|
bob97
Posts: 2019
Joined: 6/24/2006
From: Kansas
Status: offline
|
Zack...I should add that if Israel were to start building another temple within the next two years or so it would be a pretty good indicator...the AC will need to have a temple to take a seat in.
Bob
_____________________________
The LORD clears the road for me!
The LORD is my high ridge, my stronghold, my deliverer!
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 2:03:39 AM
|
|
|
jerowhy
Posts: 71
Joined: 10/14/2008
Status: offline
|
I believe that covenant that is confirmed is between the false prophet and the 10 worldwide leaders. He begins behind the scenes as a small horn and uproots 3 leaders. Nostradamus Prophesied regarding the third month of this period whereby this subduing will take place. The covenant will be the restriction on commerce as written in the Revelation with regard to the fallen prophet son of perdition who forces the people to do their transactions in a worship of the number of the name of the false prophet being. The beast (from the earth) and the 10 horns will hate the prostitute and burn her with fire and leave her destitute and have unholy communion by eating her flesh becoming her replacement for God has placed it into their hearts to accomplish the fulfillment of His Will in these things in making a distinction between the righteous and the profane.
This is no peace accord with Judea for these Worldwide Governmental Leaders will trample the Holy City Jerusalem for 42 months or 3 1/2 years or 1260 days as written, then the sacrifice and offering will be put a end to. Nostradamus Prophesied regarding how anyone who tries to oppose the performing of the daily sacrifice will be killed until that time.
quote:
ORIGINAL: bob97
Zack...sadly we will not know until the middle of the week...when ever that occurs. That is when the Antichrist breaks the agreement and sets in the temple. For the first three and one half years we will be relying upon our intuition.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not arrive until the rebellion comes6 and the man of lawlessness7 is revealed, the son of destruction.8
2Th 2:4 He9 opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, and as a result he takes his seat 10 in God's temple, displaying himself as God.11
One could say we will know when the covenant is signed but there have been several of those so I don’t think that another one will tell us anything…other then make us speculate.
Bob
< Message edited by jerowhy -- 11/11/2008 2:10:15 AM >
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 2:31:53 AM
|
|
|
Retrobyter
Posts: 443
Joined: 8/23/2007
From: Florida
Status: online
|
Shalom, girlofmanycolors!
quote:
ORIGINAL: girlofmanycolors
Thanks, Sonic. That makes sense. I already knew the stage was being set, and the props are flying up far faster than I'd like. I have an eight year old son and the thought of the world he will grow up in scares me to death.
Rest easy in the fact that "greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world!"
Deut 31:5-6
5 And the LORD shall give them up before your face, that ye may do unto them according unto all the commandments which I have commanded you.
6 Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee.
KJV
Ps 27:9-14
9 Hide not thy face far from me; put not thy servant away in anger: thou hast been my help; leave me not, neither forsake me, O God of my salvation (Hebrew: YAHSHU`AH transliterated into Greek as Ieesous and into English as Jesus).
10 When my father and my mother forsake me, then the LORD will take me up.
11 Teach me thy way, O LORD, and lead me in a plain path, because of mine enemies.
12 Deliver me not over unto the will of mine enemies: for false witnesses are risen up against me, and such as breathe out cruelty.
13 I had fainted, unless I had believed to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living.
14 Wait on the LORD: be of good courage, and he shall strengthen thine heart: wait, I say, on the LORD.
KJV
1 John 4:1-4
1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
KJV
Isa 54:10-17
10 For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.
12 And I will make thy windows of agates, and thy gates of carbuncles, and all thy borders of pleasant stones.
13 And all thy children shall be taught of the LORD; and great shall be the peace of thy children.
14 In righteousness shalt thou be established: thou shalt be far from oppression; for thou shalt not fear: and from terror; for it shall not come near thee.
15 Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake.
16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.
KJV
Although this last passage is really directed to the children of Isra'el, it applies to Goyim (Gentile) believers as well since they (we), too, are grafted into the same Olive Tree!
Retrobyter
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 4:10:02 AM
|
|
|
Psalm30
Posts: 11
Joined: 2/8/2006
From: northern california
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: SonicStudent
Yep, to be honest, i'm spending more and more time on here, and need to spend more in the bible. Get myself balanced.
heres the speech by obama right after he got elected. i told u about it on another thread.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8epbvopZPeg
_____________________________
UCDAVIS 05
"To Free The Oppressed" -Green Beret Motto
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Are we entering the "Last Week" - 11/11/2008 5:53:17 AM
|
|
|
Josh4LinC
Posts: 115
Joined: 11/11/2008
From: Minnesota
Status: offline
|
I, too, believe strongly that we are on the verge of entering Daniel's final 7. That being said, I think we have a few years yet before the AC comes on the scene (maybe 3 - 4 years). I think there are a few loose ends for the powers of this world to establish before the world can even fathom uniting under a one world government, currency, and religion. I think the world has to be given some more crises for the powers-that-be to exploit. First, the initial tip toe into this centralized world government has to take place. I am speaking namely of something like the North American Union. Also, there has to be a solution to the Lisbon Treaty in the EU for that government to be in place. Right now, Ireland is standing in the way of making that a reality. Pray for the people of Ireland as they make their stand for freedom.
I think in the short run, we have some things to keep an eye on:
- This November's World Economic Summits (in about a week or so)
- See what "great" crisis is being cooked up in the next six months in which Joe Biden says that President Obama's course of action won't seem right, at first (or if something is going to happen on January 21 - 22 as Colin Powell let slip on Meet the Press)
I think these will be some big indicators of how close we are.
Also, does the temple in Israel have to be constructed pre-peace treaty, or could it be a part of the deal? In otherwords, one of the things that is conceded to Israel is the temple mount on which to construct the temple.
I pray that if we are indeed on the verge of entering this trying period that the Holy Spirit would give us all courage and the words to say when the time is right.
In Christ,
Josh
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
| | |
Forum Tools
Printable Version
