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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/24/2008 4:50:52 PM   
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/25/2008 4:18:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John_O

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I was talking to a christian man at work, and he mentioned to me that he decided to work in another part of the building for a while because there were some teen girls where he was and they were wearing tight shorts, or something like that. He was trying to keep his thoughts pure, which was great.

Considering he is in his 40's, is it normal for men this age to have struggles with lusting after girls so young?


This is an incredibly hard question to answer because if you try to answer it truthfully everyone thinks you're a perv. But since I have a long history of "taking one for the team" and being the sacrificial lamb. here we go....

First, biology has no age. When a girl reaches sexual maturity certain changes happen in her body and she becomes a woman. A guy glances around the room and sees what appears to be a woman who looks very nicely formed. Most guys are visual so this can lead to problems right off the bat.

Then he finds out she's 16 or so (Or these days even younger). Problem gets multiplied.

A few years ago (well closer to 10 actually) there was a girl attending church with us who was about 15 or 16. She was physically mature and was in the habit of wearing blue jeans that "displayed her assets" in a most distracting way.

This caused a problem for me. But how to fix it? I couldn't talk to her, that would be just too creepy (even I would feel creepy about it). I couldn't talk to her parents ("why are you looking at my little girl's bottom?"). I couldn't talk to church leadership for much the same reason. I had no recourse to get the situation fixed.

Guys are in a very difficult situation at times like this (in fact for any sexually related matter at all). If we don't say anything the ladies continue to dress immodestly and we spend the whole service struggling to look elsewhere. If we do say something we're seen as perverts. [Catch-22]

I mentioned this on a secular site and ran into exactly that reaction. Very few were the people who understood the point.

(So ladies, please do us a favor and police yourselves and the younger set. If they want to dress like that away from church where we can avoid them, fine. But give us a break in church OK?)

(10 bucks if this was not a "he says" thread some lady would chime in and say "You shouldn't be looking there")

So is it normal for men to "lust" after teen girls? It's kind of an unfair question as we don't know whether your co-worker was lusting. Seems to me he was trying to avoid the temptation to lust. Which was the proper thing for him to do.

As to the teenage thing. Our minds may recognize that they are teenagers, but our eyes sometimes do not. A beautiful woman is a beautiful woman.

How did I handle my situation? We were fortunate in that the church was L shaped and we could move to the other wing. Of course I had no liberty to tell my wife why I wanted to sit over there for a while but she never asked so it ended up OK. After about two weeks or so that family changed churches. Problem solved for me but I'm afraid no resolution to the larger problem. She just moved churches.

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This is very true. Women tend to reach the peak of their attractiveness at an earlier age. So girls in their late teens do tend to turn heads. If the man is single --- or even if he's not --- the temptation to think, or even do, certain things is quite common.

I met a gal a few years ago who was 16 but looked and acted more like 25. Needless to say, I was shocked to hear her actual age. Point being age is not the first thing to cross a person's mind during a casual encounter.
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/25/2008 1:12:22 PM   
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Anyone remember this one by Gary Puckett and the Union Gap?

With all the charms of a woman
You kept the secrets of your youth
You lead me to believe
You're old enough to give me love
And now it hurts to know the truth

Woh-oh-oh, young girl, get out of my mind
My love for you is way out of line
Better run girl, you're much too young girl

Beneath your perfume and make-up
You're just a baby in disguise
And though you know
That it's wrong to be alone with me
That come on look is in your eyes


That problem has been around a long time. Sometimes young ladies can be intentionally misleading.

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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/25/2008 10:38:21 PM   
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great song. That man sure could sing. And a topic that has been addressed in song and literature quite a few times.

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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/28/2008 12:06:56 PM   
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I would wonder why the man spoke to another woman about this. And let me explain that as far as men are concerned, asking this question is not "bashing". If a man is truly worried about becoming intimate in thought or deed with another woman, why would he go and confide (emotional intimacy), with another woman. Now he has compounded his problem.
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/28/2008 7:45:03 PM   
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I would wonder why the man spoke to another woman about this. And let me explain that as far as men are concerned, asking this question is not "bashing". If a man is truly worried about becoming intimate in thought or deed with another woman, why would he go and confide (emotional intimacy), with another woman. Now he has compounded his problem.


I can think of two reasons right off the bat. The OP doesn't mention marital status of either the guy or the poster. SO (1) he was interested in the OP and was just using the girls as an excuse to talk to her. or (2) he was hinting that maybe she whould talk to the girls to get them to clean up their act.

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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 11/29/2008 2:15:19 AM   
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Unless this man is a pedophile I would assume he is referring to the older teenage girls there. Some 16, 17, 18 year old girls look much older physically. Depending on how they look body wise and how the clothes fit I could see why he would want to stay away as not to lust.


I don't venture into this folder very often. In the eyes of the law, sexual interaction of any form with someone under 18 might be considered pedophilia, it is not. Pedophilia is the sexual attraction/arousal to prepubescent children. I am not saying that it's right for a man in his 40's to lust after a girl in her teens who is developed. But, use of the term pedophilia does not apply and this has to be clarified.

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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 12/1/2008 7:38:22 PM   
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Well, my first response is that even if its normal its still not good.

But after reading your post I totaly understand the guy. Yes, there are some girls who really try to accentuate every part of their body. Some woman with great figures who try to let every guy see as much as they can. I would not want to work around those woman. Even if they are teens, they still have developed bodies that men are attracted to. It they are dressing in a certain manner then it might be pretty distracting. Us guys are very visual, I guess you have already heard this. If he is having trouble with these woman, no matter if its his fault, the fault of the young ladies, or both - its a good idea to get away from that temptation.

I heard someoen say he talked to an old man and asked him if you are ever able to get the point where you don't have that temptation. This old man said that it continues into old age. It doesn't make it right to give in. But it's naturally built into a man to be easily visualy stimulated. There are whole books written to help men deal with the plethera of visual temptations out there in our world and help them not to take that second look.

This guy may not be dealing with lust (all the time) but with having to constantly deal with a big distraction that can too easily lead to temptation and then lust.

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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 12/1/2008 9:55:04 PM   
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after going back and reading the OP I would suggest you go and talk to the man directly about this to understand fully where he was coming from when he said what he said. A lot of bad things can happen when people draw conclusions not based on facts.
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 12/15/2008 12:39:08 AM   
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The technical term for this recognized disorder is ephebophilia (there's actually a Wikipedia article on it). Part of the problem here is with the sexualization of children (part of the sexualization of our wider culture), but some men do battle with their thoughts about very young women between 13 and 18. I'm not saying this guy did this in any sort of pathological way (in fact, he did the responsible thing and got out of the situation), but it does happen. The adult section of the Open Directory lists more 'teen' sites than any other group, so I guess that says something.

I agree with John_O that it's often not accepted to say you have an issue with this, because you get branded as the one with the problem. I know I have, and I wonder if there's some feminist or other postmodern influence at work defending women's right to dress any way they want in spite of the problems it causes. Yes, the debates over modesty in the church have become increasingly polarized, with different people even interpreting Paul's letters in different ways (Christian freedom vs not putting a stumblingblock in your brother's way, that kind of thing). However, it must be said that Paul and other New Testament writers, as well as the early Church Fathers in the pagan culture of their day, were quite emphatic about avoiding even a hint of sexual immorality (which IMO and probably that of other guys here, immodesty tends to be associated with).

I'd like to repeat that I think what this guy did was the responsible choice, and it's best to do the right thing even when it hurts. "Better to go into life with some things missing than to die because you refuse to make sacrifices" - well, something along those lines anyway. After all, this site isn't called CROSSwalk for nothing!
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 12/15/2008 12:44:49 AM   
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If women (and girls) want guidance about how to avoid dressing in ways that turn guys on, go to http://www.therebelution.com/modestysurvey/ where guys were interviewed about what kinds of dress are likely to cause impure thoughts. IMO it's the most accurate treatment of the subject anywhere.
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RE: Is it normal for men to lust after teens? - 12/15/2008 5:04:20 AM   
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Let's switch it around flowerz. Say your 40 and your working with a 17/18 male who has lots of muscles and has his shirt off. Would you struggle with lust? ...
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