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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:07:32 PM
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StephK
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We are still free as long as we can lampoon the leaders without repercussions. The day we can't speak freely then we are toast.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:13:15 PM
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Here's a clue, I am real sarcastic.
I've been mocking The 0ne for months. I've done it after watching my scientist sister drink the koolaide and act like a 0bamba bot.
Sarcasm generally means you believe the opposite of what you are saying. I don't think that's the case here. I'm fine with people criticizing Obama or any other leader for real offenses - just not ridiculous made-up ones. It's always easy to say "I'm joking" afterwards - if your jokes are based on slander ... it's not funny.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:18:49 PM
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And where were you all of these years when President Bush was getting it worse?
Where were you just today and the last months when Governor Sarah Palin was getting the same and worse?
Honest questions.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:21:16 PM
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StephK
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Here's a clue, I am real sarcastic.
I've been mocking The 0ne for months. I've done it after watching my scientist sister drink the koolaide and act like a 0bamba bot.
Sarcasm generally means you believe the opposite of what you are saying. I don't think that's the case here. I'm fine with people criticizing Obama or any other leader for real offenses - just not ridiculous made-up ones. It's always easy to say "I'm joking" afterwards - if your jokes are based on slander ... it's not funny.
I'm not going to stop posting articles just because 0's supporters don't like a little light shone on his obvious character flaws. I will use sarcasm as often as I like and I will do it while staying within the TOS. I didn't say the 0ne would be ready to rule on day one, his staff did. In the USA we are not subjects but citizens. We are not ruled but governed by leaders who are supposed to serve us not the other way around.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:21:43 PM
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. it's not funny.
Oh, it's been a real hoot. So I'll disagree with you.
And if ever the occasion arises where there's a post involving Stephen Harper, I'll defer on how you think things ought to be handled.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:23:31 PM
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dbark
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And where were you all of these years when President Bush was getting it worse?
Where were you just today and the last months when Governor Sarah Palin was getting the same and worse?
Honest questions.
I have never said any of those things. I am supposed to be the defender of everyone and everything simply because I objected to fear-mongering here?
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:26:48 PM
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StephK
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It's not fear mongering. It's reporting on another gaffe made by The 0ne's spokesperson. He's been elected for all of 6 days now and it looks like it's going to be good for those of us who are not besotted by him.
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right but the heart of the fool to the left.
Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:27:46 PM
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dbark
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. it's not funny.
Oh, it's been a real hoot. So I'll disagree with you.
And if ever the occasion arises where there's a post involving Stephen Harper, I'll defer on how you think things ought to be handled.
Just because you think slander, lies, and fear-mongering are funny does not make it so.
Your not-so-subtle advice to shut-up because I'm Canadian is noted. Clearly, I must defer to you, as an American, in divining matters of morality.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:29:12 PM
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StephK
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It's NOT slander when it's true. Watch the video and listen with your own ears.
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Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is. ~ Ecc. 10:2-3
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:29:50 PM
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dbark
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It's not fear mongering. It's reporting on another gaffe made by The 0ne's spokesperson. He's been elected for all of 6 days now and it looks like it's going to be good for those of us who are not besotted by him.
Did you read my post? I'm not objecting to you pointing out the obvious mistake that was made - just the implications of something sinister and scary coming as a result of it. That is fear-mongering how ever you slice it.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:35:47 PM
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HighPlainsDrifter
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Just because you think slander, lies, and fear-mongering are funny does not make it so.
And your thinking of them as slander doesn't make them slander or, more properly in this case, libelous.
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Your not-so-subtle advice to shut-up because I'm Canadian is noted. Clearly, I must defer to you, as an American, in divining matters of morality.
Oh, heavens no, by all means continue to advise Obama's constituents how to properly address him and his policies. We're citizens of the world down here, honest, and we prefer to be culturally sensitive in how we gripe about our government.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:43:08 PM
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Oh I saw an interview with that guy over the weekend. He said Obama is reviewing President Bush's executive orders to see what can be changed as soon as he takes office.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:45:24 PM
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earthless
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ORIGINAL: earthless
And where were you all of these years when President Bush was getting it worse?
Where were you just today and the last months when Governor Sarah Palin was getting the same and worse?
Honest questions.
I have never said any of those things. I am supposed to be the defender of everyone and everything simply because I objected to fear-mongering here?
Point being that you're real quick to do it here for Obama... so my questions are fair and legit.
You're trying to come off as unbiased, but it seems you're not. Fair enough, we all have our biases. It's when someone tries to take a high road and claim they do not that I then have to see if that is really the case.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:50:04 PM
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dbark
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ORIGINAL: earthless
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ORIGINAL: dbark
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ORIGINAL: earthless
And where were you all of these years when President Bush was getting it worse?
Where were you just today and the last months when Governor Sarah Palin was getting the same and worse?
Honest questions.
I have never said any of those things. I am supposed to be the defender of everyone and everything simply because I objected to fear-mongering here?
Point being that you're real quick to do it here for Obama... so my questions are fair and legit.
You're trying to come off as unbiased, but it seems you're not. Fair enough, we all have our biases. It's when someone tries to take a high road and claim they do not that I then have to see if that is really the case.
Dude ... I'm not trying to come off as anything, I'm just expressing my opinion. I know I am biased - everyone is.
Your questions to me about what I did to prevent people from speaking ill of Pres. Bush and Gov Palin are not fair because
#1 - you have no idea what I say or do to anyone or about anyone and your implication that I did nothing is baseless.
#2 - I do not have to argue against every injustice in the world to speak up against one I see here and now.
#3 - I actually supported Pres Bush and did, in fact, defend him against fear-mongerers.
If they still existed, you could dig through the old forums at christianity.com to see what I did and did not say and do but, alas, they are gone. How could anyone here possibly accuse me of doing or not doing anything if I have not been posting here?
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/10/2008 7:52:33 PM
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earthless
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ORIGINAL: dbark
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ORIGINAL: earthless
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ORIGINAL: dbark
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ORIGINAL: earthless
And where were you all of these years when President Bush was getting it worse?
Where were you just today and the last months when Governor Sarah Palin was getting the same and worse?
Honest questions.
I have never said any of those things. I am supposed to be the defender of everyone and everything simply because I objected to fear-mongering here?
Point being that you're real quick to do it here for Obama... so my questions are fair and legit.
You're trying to come off as unbiased, but it seems you're not. Fair enough, we all have our biases. It's when someone tries to take a high road and claim they do not that I then have to see if that is really the case.
Dude ... I'm not trying to come off as anything, I'm just expressing my opinion. I know I am biased - everyone is.
Your questions to me about what I did to prevent people from speaking ill of Pres. Bush and Gov Palin are not fair because
#1 - you have no idea what I say or do to anyone or about anyone and your implication that I did nothing is baseless.
#2 - I do not have to argue against every injustice in the world to speak up against one I see here and now.
#3 - I actually supported Pres Bush and did, in fact, defend him against fear-mongerers.
I have never seen you do that in this sub-forum, which is why I asked. That is all I can go by.. what I see you post on these boards.
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RE: Obama Spokesman Says 'Obama Ready to RULE on Day 1' - 11/11/2008 9:03:48 AM
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