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Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over death ... - 11/9/2008 7:59:48 AM
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RichLP
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Thus says the Secret Service.
Doesn't Sarah Palin, a church-going Christian who has read the Bible, know that words can have disastrous and destructive consequences - even the thoughtless and disconnected words Palin spoke while campaigning?
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:27:06 AM
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Your link is broken.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:31:45 AM
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So because Palin was the only one actually willing to bring to light Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Ayers, etc... she is at fault for people being angry over Obama?
What a stretch.. wow. But what it to be expected by a leftist British newspaper that is being run over by anti-American Muslims?
Obama won and the liberal media still fears and hates Palin so much that they must keep trying to stir the pot.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:34:53 AM
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So because Palin was the only one actually willing to bring to light Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Ayers, etc... she is at fault for people being angry over Obama?
What a stretch.. wow. But what it to be expected by a leftist British newspaper that is being run over by anti-American Muslims?
Obama won and the liberal media still fears and hates Palin so much that they must keep trying to stir the pot.
Thats going to be Obamas motif to suite his agenda of Hate... = the truth!
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:35:28 AM
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Second of all, she exaggerated the truth and poked fun of Barack Obama's "associations" with William Ayers.
Actually, she was still quite tame about the truth of Obama's relationship and working connection with Ayers. Obama downright lied when he tried to brush the whole Ayers thing with, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.."
Lie.
Akin to his bold-faced lies that he was unaware that "Rev" Wright preaches racism and hate from the pulpit. And that lie is on video - one instance Obama saying that he didn't know anything about it. The other video a few days later he said he did know but that he never heard it.
But hey... I better stop talking about the truth in regards to The One because then you may cry out that I am being hateful and vile.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:35:41 AM
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So because Palin was the only one actually willing to bring to light Rev Wright, Tony Rezko, Ayers, etc... she is at fault for people being angry over Obama?
What a stretch.. wow. But what it to be expected by a leftist British newspaper that is being run over by anti-American Muslims?
Obama won and the liberal media still fears and hates Palin so much that they must keep trying to stir the pot.
It's ironic that she "brought to light" these things which the McCain campaign itself ordered her to tone down.
Again: if the Secret Service says her comments incited mobs and generated death threats, it should serve to illustrate Palin was careless with her words.
Words can kill.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:37:06 AM
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While I wasn't keen on the "palling around with terrorists" line (if they wanted to bring up Obama's relationship with Ayers & Doern there were other ways to do so that would have been more dignified & accurate) to say that she is somehow responsible for the attempted actions of a few nutcases because of that statement or other statements made by her while campaigning for McCain is absurd.
I think the McCain campaign and the media* and everyone else needs to leave this woman alone. Its over, her side lost. Go home.
* I'm talking about media commentary & insults not reporting the sour grapes of some in the McCain campaign. It is the media's job to cover that, nonsense though it may be. So no, I won't be boycotting Fox News as they are just reporting the news. Take that Free Republic.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:38:04 AM
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Second of all, she exaggerated the truth and poked fun of Barack Obama's "associations" with William Ayers.
Actually, she was still quite tame about the truth of Obama's relationship and working connection with Ayers. Obama downright lied when he tried to brush the whole Ayers thing with, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.."
Lie.
Akin to his bold-faced lies that he was unaware that "Rev" Wright preaches racism and hate from the pulpit. And that lie is on video - one instance Obama saying that he didn't know anything about it. The other video a few days later he said he did know but that he never heard it.
But hey... I better stop talking about the truth in regards to The One because then you may cry out that I am being hateful and vile.
This guilt by association tactic with Ayers has been proven overstretched before. However, the Secret Service was still alarmed by the results of the good Alaskan governor's words.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:38:38 AM
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Wasn't that story debunked already BY the Secret Service and why are they talking to the press????? Didn't the 0bama's look at the risks they were going to put their young daughters and themselves through before deciding to run? It's just more evidence that he's not ready for prime time.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:38:51 AM
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It's ironic that she "brought to light" these things which the McCain campaign itself ordered her to tone down.
Perhaps that is because Palin knew it was the right thing to do and not something to ignore.
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Again: if the Secret Service says her comments incited mobs and generated death threats, it should serve to illustrate Palin was careless with her words.
Words can kill.
If you're looking for a scapegoat if anything, God forbid, happens to Obama.. it looks like you and the rest of the lefties have found it.
But you better include Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin and millions of conservative and independent Americans that did not drink the Obama Kool-Aid and rightfully saw his terrorist and corrupt friends/associations for what they are.
Again, the fear and hate of the left towards Palin is downright sickening. All of it because she is not a liberal, how tolerant.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:39:50 AM
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Second of all, she exaggerated the truth and poked fun of Barack Obama's "associations" with William Ayers.
Actually, she was still quite tame about the truth of Obama's relationship and working connection with Ayers. Obama downright lied when he tried to brush the whole Ayers thing with, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.."
Lie.
Akin to his bold-faced lies that he was unaware that "Rev" Wright preaches racism and hate from the pulpit. And that lie is on video - one instance Obama saying that he didn't know anything about it. The other video a few days later he said he did know but that he never heard it.
But hey... I better stop talking about the truth in regards to The One because then you may cry out that I am being hateful and vile.
This guilt by association tactic with Ayers has been proven overstretched before. However, the Secret Service was still alarmed by the results of the good Alaskan governor's words.
What the truth can't be told in a campaign anymore?
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 8:41:38 AM
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ORIGINAL: RichLP
Second of all, she exaggerated the truth and poked fun of Barack Obama's "associations" with William Ayers.
Actually, she was still quite tame about the truth of Obama's relationship and working connection with Ayers. Obama downright lied when he tried to brush the whole Ayers thing with, "he is just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.."
Lie.
Akin to his bold-faced lies that he was unaware that "Rev" Wright preaches racism and hate from the pulpit. And that lie is on video - one instance Obama saying that he didn't know anything about it. The other video a few days later he said he did know but that he never heard it.
But hey... I better stop talking about the truth in regards to The One because then you may cry out that I am being hateful and vile.
This guilt by association tactic with Ayers has been proven overstretched before. However, the Secret Service was still alarmed by the results of the good Alaskan governor's words.
Associations that run a lot deeper than simply Ayers being "just a guy that lives in my neighborhood.." So you do agree Obama lied? Good for you.
Obama launched his entire political career in Ayers living room.
Obama worked together with Ayers in a major foundation.
Obama wrote a statement for Ayers book.
Obama's wife worked side by side with Ayer's terrorist wife.
Yeah, you're right.. I do that with unknown guys that live in my neighborhood.
Ayers, Wright, Rezko, Daley, etc.. it all shows his true colors or that he is the dumbest man to have ever graduated from Harvard.
Take your pick.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 9:00:04 AM
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This is the dumbest thing I've read in awhile.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 9:12:40 AM
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How in the world do you know that is the truth? Do you see any NAMES? Do you see any SPECIFIC QUOTATIONS FROM THE SECRET SERVICE?
You have no clue from that article if the charges are true or are the fantasy of the Obama campaign. Notice that the ONLY direct quotes came from Michelle Obama. What should THAT tell you?
Get a grip.
As for Obama's association with Ayers, you will find, in the end, that it was up close and VERY personal. You cannot hang around with these guys for more than a day or two without hearing all about their hopes and dreams for CHANGE... which in Ayer's mind means socialism.
Living in a sheltered world, most people don't know how 60's terrorists think.
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This guilt by association tactic with Ayers has been proven overstretched before. However, the Secret Service was still alarmed by the results of the good Alaskan governor's words.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 9:16:51 AM
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What a crock!
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 9:58:32 AM
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The article does not say that the secret service said the threats were caused by Palins speeches.
It specifically states that teh secret service told the Obamas that they had seen an increase in threats then there is a comma showing a seperation to the next statement of coinciding. Meaning that the secret service saw increased threats and the articles author stated the conincidence NOT THE SECRET SERVICE. You guys absolutely fear this woman, that is so telling.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 10:20:19 AM
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I am neither afraid nor hateful towards Sarah Palin. I am certain that she loves her children, is faithful to her husband, and believes in Jesus Christ as per videos of her I have seen.
But her disastrous interview with Katie Couric and the reports emerging now of tensions between her side and McCain's advisers illustrate that she may well have done a disservice to John McCain. His campaign had to tell her to tone it down. She was inciting hatred - or do any of you really think that in some parts of America, to openly say that a man of color associates with terrorists is not possibly a prelude to a lynching?
Her comments were grossly irresponsible, thoughtless, and crude. I cannot imagine any responsible voter ever choosing a person of such low intellectual caliber to become the US president one day - and given that a Republican icon like General Colin Powell (who is not "sheltered" and who is not a liberal) openly stated she is not qualified for the VP's job is a damning enough indictment of the Alaskan governor.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 10:33:55 AM
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John McCain was spared a Mondale like embarrassing defeat because of Sarah Palin. We just elected the most incompetent and inexperienced empty suit to the highest office. He's already stepped in it twice by dissing a former first lady and getting off on the wrong foot with Poland.
FYI Colin Powell is a Rockefeller Republican, definitely a liberal.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 10:43:41 AM
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Richlp: Doesn't Sarah Palin, a church-going Christian who has read the Bible, know that words can have disastrous and destructive consequences - even the thoughtless and disconnected words Palin spoke while campaigning?
1. There was nothing she said that was not true.
2. White supremecists and extremists are not reasonable or logical or moral. They will find any excuse to threaten and hate someone else. That excuse could be a political rally or a holiday parade or a children's television show. Doesn't really matter. Are you saying that candidates should remain silent on the tough issues so as to not 'wake' the extremists?!?
3. The Secret Service... who? There are no real names attached to the story, so no way to corroborate it.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 10:44:01 AM
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I am neither afraid nor hateful towards Sarah Palin. I am certain that she loves her children, is faithful to her husband, and believes in Jesus Christ as per videos of her I have seen.
But her disastrous interview with Katie Couric and the reports emerging now of tensions between her side and McCain's advisers illustrate that she may well have done a disservice to John McCain. His campaign had to tell her to tone it down. She was inciting hatred - or do any of you really think that in some parts of America, to openly say that a man of color associates with terrorists is not possibly a prelude to a lynching?
Her comments were grossly irresponsible, thoughtless, and crude. I cannot imagine any responsible voter ever choosing a person of such low intellectual caliber to become the US president one day - and given that a Republican icon like General Colin Powell (who is not "sheltered" and who is not a liberal) openly stated she is not qualified for the VP's job is a damning enough indictment of the Alaskan governor.
You obviously have a fixation on the woman and show an obvious desire to tear her down so forgive me if i see a fear of the challenge she presents. As far as your insisting that she is so horrible, you have provided an article with a title that does not reflect the facts presented in the actual article. The secret service did not say that sarah caused the increased threats, only that there were increased threats and the author made a baseless connection. Then there is the fact that every one of these newest attack articles provide nothing but "quotes" from anonymous sources many of which if they are talking shouldn't be.
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RE: Sarah Palin blamed by the US Secret Service over de... - 11/9/2008 10:47:31 AM
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What the truth can't be told in a campaign anymore? Sure it can. But like everything else, there's always a way to make it more or less destructive. And words poorly chosen can lead to awful consequences. I would say that Ms. Palin may have stated a factoid twisted to suit her or her campaign's agenda, but i would not say that she spoke the truth. Facts do not always = truth. If the right could just learn that they might not come across so hateful. But see, I think they WANT to come across as hateful, so there ya go. I don't expect to see any change in rhetoric.
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