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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/11/2008 9:02:06 PM
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bob97
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Wasn't someone talking about Bilderberg? Seems they want to microchip...
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/june2008/061008_secret_agenda.htm
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 2:04:49 AM
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The following is a list of the intermingling organizations that have been set up by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. I read about most of this through various google searches. I also came across the following book by Daniel Estulin called The True Story of the Bilderberg Group:
The Bilderberg Group - This is a group of the world's wealthiest, most powerful, and influencial elites. They have met together in secret once per year since around 1954 when they met at the Hotel de Bilderberg in Oosterbeek, Norway. They meet together to discuss foreign policy and the direction of the world. Essentially, this is the place where the CEOs, political leaders, and others get their marching orders for the next year.
The Council on Foreign Relations - A "non-partisan" organization in the United States. Oh, it's very non-partisan alright. While they do not have any direct authority in the government, almost all presidents and/or vice presidents have been members of this organization since about the 1930s or so. Democrat? Republican? It makes no difference, because they are stacking the government and cabinets with their own members. Democrats and Republicans are just window dressing to delude the masses into believing that they actually are choosing someone different. In any case, this organization serves as a think tank for the Washington elite and most of the time what they propose is in fact put into action.
The Council on Foreign Relations Website
Royal Institute of International Affairs - From what I've gathered, this is the UK's version of the Council on Foreign Relations.
The RIIA Website
The (good ol') United Nations - This is the venue in which they will attempt to set up the one world government.
The United Nations Website
The Trilateral Commission - Another organization that is working toward one global government. This one includes members representing Japan along with Europeans and Americans.
The Trilateral Commission Website
The Club of Rome - This is the organization that the powers-that-be is using to push its environmental agenda. In other words, they are using this organization to cause panic about global climate change.
The Club of Rome Website
Each of these councils or groups have been established by or with the support of a Rockefeller, Morgan, and/or Rothschild. They are all a means through which these NWOers are establishing their kingdom or their master's. The Bilderberg group, in particular, has the farthest reach, in my opinion. This group invites various CEOs and up and coming politicians each year. CEOs or proxies of Ford, General Motors, Coca Cola, Microsoft, ExxonMobil, and other prominent corporations have been to these annual meetings.
Now, I must take a moment to clarify that I don't believe everyone that gets involved with these various organizations are doing so with any deviant intentions (that distinction belongs to those in the inner circle). I think many of them see the groups as a path to further their careers, and they may share similar views. I mean is world peace such an undesirable thing? What I do understand from the research I have done already is that once you're in, you go along to get along. If at some point you step out of line, they take care of it immediately and by any means.
Another thing everyone should be aware of is that the U.S. Federal Reserve is not a government body. It is set up to give the idea that it is. However, it is a private organization that is owned through privately owned stocks. It has government representation. However, it was granted the authority to print money and coin by the Congress (very un-Constitutional). Its responsibility is to regulate and control the money supply by manipulating interest rates, reserve requirements for banks, and printing paper currency. This system of regulating currency on the monetary system was created by representatives of John Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, and the Rothschilds of England in 1913. This was one avenue in which these wealthy elites were able to marry the free market system to the government, thus extending its reach of control. This is one of the first traps laid in the early 20th century that sparked the national debt and inflation problems we are running into today. Essentially, the Congress borrows the money from the Fed at interest, and the Congress collects taxes via the national income tax (est. in 1913, as well) which is used to pay the interest.
For a better explanation of this watch this youTube video based on the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island
I am an Economics major, and after studying how our monetary system works, I always felt uneasy about how money was created. More recently, I have discovered the Austrian School of economic thought who are supporters of sound currency and not this fiat (paper) money system we are subjected to. They have only affirmed my suspicions, as well as become a source of support in my education.
In any case, the central bank systems are another means whereby the powers of this world are extending their control. I, myself, am ashamed of my own debt situation and wish I would have been listening to my little voice that always screamed to stay out of debt.
I have read some posts in other areas that have set out to bash capitalism as an economic system. While no system ever achieves perfection in this world, it is still a good system, in theory. The problem we are facing in this world is that capitalism has been married to government. This has created a Frankenstein of sorts that provides terrible control and power to the wielder.
Regardless, I hope all the information I have provided is useful. It is in times like these that we have to equip ourselves and be alert. Now is the time for all of us who are children of God to put on the Armor of God. May God bless and keep all of us. Also, may he keep us from the delusion that is coming upon the world that we may not be deceived in the hour of trial.
In Christ,
Josh
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 3:39:26 AM
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Josh4LinC
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One more thing I would like to add. I have this perception that the powers of this world are setting us up for a doozy. It goes down like this:
Step 1: Use an unpopular leader, like President Bush, to set up all the legislation necessary to push the U.S.A. over the edge.
Step 2: "Elect" a popular political savior, like Pres-Elect Obama, to use this mighty sword created under the unpopular leader while millions of citizens praise him for it.
People are clamoring for change. Well, folks, I think we're getting it. In some ways, I hope I am wrong. I pray that God gives our new president wisdom and courage to lead our nation in these troubled times.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 6:53:25 AM
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Did I just read something correctly, off another thread that has been closed. Someone said that its been told, they are taking Jesus out of a song and adding Obama!?!?!?!?! I HAVE NOT heard this. Is this true? And where can I find it?
Here it is Misty, haven't got a vid of it;
A famous Hymn about Jesus Hijacked
"Two weeks ago on a Sunday evening, I heard for the first time a spiritual hymn called “Sanctuary” when a visitor to our congregation taught us the a cappella version. Moments ago, I heard the slightly altered central refrain of that song again, this time set to music and in a political context rather than a spiritual one.
Or maybe not. As performed by folk musician Billy Jonas, “Sanctuary” is now part of an online video mash-up that sings worshipful praise to Barack Obama, the Democrat with a presidential campaign of messianic proportions.
Jonas’ lyrics consist of a mere 22 words: “Love prepare me to be a sanctuary, pure and holy tried and true. With thanksgiving, I’ll be a living sanctuary for you.”
But the original version of the song uses the word “Lord” instead of love, and it is a song about Jesus Christ."
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 10:18:48 AM
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Josh...thanks for the information. For what it's worth I think we have fallen over the edge financially. I’m not sure the hole we have fallen into has a bottom…every time you look at the news someone else want another few billion dollars to bail themselves out.
It’s not just America…it’s the world. Wealth comes from increased productivity not from printing money.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 10:46:01 AM
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Watch this clip on Google.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=oNofb-OlZyQ
It basically shows that google has the biggest data-base of personal data in the world, collected by our internet use and email scanning. It says that government already use it 'illegally' to track potential security threats (like we didn't know that already)
I can see that when this World Order is in place, and Christian's are being questioned as to why they will not recieve the Mark/chip, they will pull out detailed profiles of our remarks and searches on forums like this and youtube usage to try to show peaceful Christians as enemies of this new state!
Greetings
Here is another interseting bit of info
But read beteen the lines and you'll get the picture
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=DHHP1PLDV0k
The Illuminati in America
http://educate-yourself.org/mc/mcsvaliinterviewpt1.shtml
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/12/2008 4:57:52 PM
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Josh4LinC
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It’s not just America…it’s the world. Wealth comes from increased productivity not from printing money.
Bob
Amen, brother. The capitalist principle of maximized productivity is good. I subscribe to a sound money, free market, and maximized productivity philosophy of economics. I believe that true free market capitalism (at least the theory) is based on the idea that the welfare of the people is better maximized (along with personal liberty) when people are free to choose what they will buy and sell. In this sense, the market mechanisms send signals to producers about what to make (based on demand) and this reduces waste and inefficiency. The people are never truly taken advantage of or exploited, because they are free to buy or sell whatever products they require so long as the benefit is marginally equal to or greater than the cost. Also, the government is not actively engaged in bailing out businesses or intervening in markets in general. The only purpose they would serve is to act as a referee of sorts by acting as a mediator of last resort and enforcing contracts.
What we have had since the early 20th century is a terrible beast that is going to bring destruction on many people even as we watch this house of cards collapse before our eyes. As of the time of this post, the Dow has closed down 4.73% at 8,282.66. While it has been fluctuating, it seems to be flirting with greater lows. It would seem that we are, indeed, moving into a position for any such move to consolidate the world authority. At the same time, this may just be another birth pang. Watch and pray.
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first, you have a very bad master; and, next, your master has a fool for his servant.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/13/2008 9:35:23 PM
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Of course.... that might mean that all of our searches are being monitored..... and what we post on this forum....
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 12:12:41 AM
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bob97
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Yeah...anyone who thinks they are hidden on this site better think again...Big Brother is watching and knows all they want to know.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 9:53:33 AM
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Try typing in one of our thread names into google. I did it with 'the two witnesses', you'll see our posts listed within the first couple of pages
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 3:00:35 PM
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TorchHeart
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George Bush has gotten a bum rap primarily because of the secular world, who hates him because he professes Christ and the elitist who can’t stand the fact he is from Texas and does not speak the Kings English.
This is a comical post, right? Or are you talking about George Bush, Sr.? If its George Bush, Sr. I'll buy it. And for the record, Bush Sr. was handicapped by a Democratic Congress that seemed out to get him from the moment he said "No new taxes." He had potential to be a better President than history will show him as, and that really is a shame.
George W. Bush, however, has made his own bed. He's not hated because he professes Christ and is from Texas. He's hated because he professes Christ very openly, but the actions of himself and his administration seem hypocritical to what he professes. He lied Congress and the American public to get us into a war that was completely unnecessary. Rather than try to work with world leaders to stop a terrorist organization like al-Quaeda, he's tried to bully the world into doing things his way. He's squandered all the good-will that was being shown to us by the rest of the world after 9-11. He ran our country into a massive recession that has now spread world-wide, and while he wasn't solely to blame for it, refused to acknowledge it for almost a year thus preventing corrective action, plus his faulty and unsound financial policies have resulted in increasing the severity of the situation. Government spending has gone out of control, and in all the wrong places. His education program, "No Child Left Behind," has resulted in worse funding for schools and has been a huge burdon on teachers and does nothing for students. His administration composed of people with dubious histories, including a Vice-President who has taken elaborate steps to avoid being held accountable for his actions while in office after orchestrating a "leak" of information that almost cost a government agent their life. His administration and policies have resulted in massive tax breaks for the wealthy, and turned blind eyes to issues of the middle class. He and his administration failed to act during a major natural disaster in New Orleans and wound up with major egg on their face.
And this isn't saying that Obama will end up being any better than W. (he could EASILY fall flat on his face, too), but to say that Bush has gotten a "bum rap" by the so-called liberal media for only superficial reasons is so far from the truth, its laughable.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 3:05:00 PM
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TorchHeart...I guess we'll just have to let history be the judge of George W. Bush won't we. You have your opinion and others have theirs and this is a subject we could banner around forever.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 3:09:59 PM
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TorchHeart...I guess we'll just have to let history be the judge of George W. Bush won't we.
That's already been done.
http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html
Granted, that's a bit premature, but it does show where things are going for Bush as far as the history books are going to show. I know Ronald Regan started out being viewed poorly by history and rose considerably, but the situations surrounding Bush and the ones that surrouned Regan were far different. Too much has stuck to Bush and has been directly attributed to him and his administration.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 3:38:04 PM
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You apparently dislike the man and nothing will dissuade you and as a result you focus on the negative press of his administration…like I say time will tell.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 3:40:13 PM
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TorchHeart
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You apparently dislike the man and nothing will dissuade you and as a result you focus on the negative press of his administration…like I say time will tell.
Time has told. What postive press is there that doesn't come from the over-abundance of conservative talk media?
You apparently like him, and that's cool. But I'm hardly focusing on "negative press;" I'm focusing (for the most part) on established facts.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 4:22:32 PM
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George Bush has gotten a bum rap primarily because of the secular world, who hates him because he professes Christ and the elitist who can’t stand the fact he is from Texas and does not speak the Kings English.
This is a comical post, right? Or are you talking about George Bush, Sr.? If its George Bush, Sr. I'll buy it. And for the record, Bush Sr. was handicapped by a Democratic Congress that seemed out to get him from the moment he said "No new taxes." He had potential to be a better President than history will show him as, and that really is a shame.
George W. Bush, however, has made his own bed. He's not hated because he professes Christ and is from Texas. He's hated because he professes Christ very openly, but the actions of himself and his administration seem hypocritical to what he professes. He lied Congress and the American public to get us into a war that was completely unnecessary. Rather than try to work with world leaders to stop a terrorist organization like al-Quaeda, he's tried to bully the world into doing things his way. He's squandered all the good-will that was being shown to us by the rest of the world after 9-11. He ran our country into a massive recession that has now spread world-wide, and while he wasn't solely to blame for it, refused to acknowledge it for almost a year thus preventing corrective action, plus his faulty and unsound financial policies have resulted in increasing the severity of the situation. Government spending has gone out of control, and in all the wrong places. His education program, "No Child Left Behind," has resulted in worse funding for schools and has been a huge burdon on teachers and does nothing for students. His administration composed of people with dubious histories, including a Vice-President who has taken elaborate steps to avoid being held accountable for his actions while in office after orchestrating a "leak" of information that almost cost a government agent their life. His administration and policies have resulted in massive tax breaks for the wealthy, and turned blind eyes to issues of the middle class. He and his administration failed to act during a major natural disaster in New Orleans and wound up with major egg on their face.
And this isn't saying that Obama will end up being any better than W. (he could EASILY fall flat on his face, too), but to say that Bush has gotten a "bum rap" by the so-called liberal media for only superficial reasons is so far from the truth, its laughable.
What, specifically, did George W. Bush do that ran the country into a recession?
And was the recession of 2001 the consequence of Bill Clinton's actions or not?
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 5:36:35 PM
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And was the recession of 2001 the consequence of Bill Clinton's actions or not?
The recession of 2001 was not a consequence of Bill Clinton's actions. Clinton's Presidency, while it had its flaws, was more fiscally conservative and far closer to true Reganomics than W.'s could ever hope to be.
As for Bush, he inherited a sizable budget surplus and a thriving economy. How did he respond? He pushed through massive tax cuts for the rich while increasing federal spending at a rapid rate. As a result Bush transformed the surplus into an incredible deficit. He also failed to address the problems creatd by companies that continue to move factories and other industries off-shore, resulting in a growing shortage of jobs in the United States in certain areas of industry (telecommunications, factory, etc.). Bush's tax cuts and other policies have accelerated the concentration of wealth and income among the very richest Americans. These policies, plus stirct opposition to necessary government regulations have resulted in the mess we find ourselves in now. Plus, the government bail-out (which I agree with Bush on as being necessary) has been mismanaged (take a look at how AIG handled THEIR money). There were not enough strings attached to the cash, and too few people have benefitted... and in addition, its been the wrong people (CEO's, over-paid V.P.'s, etc.). Now we need another bailout package to correct the first one??? In addiction to that, he has waged two wars (one of which was appropriate, but the other of which was completely unnecessarily) both of which are on-going and costing America millions and millions of dollars each month, making the situation that much worse.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 6:53:49 PM
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As for Bush, he inherited a sizable budget surplus and a thriving economy. How did he respond? He pushed through massive tax cuts for the rich while increasing federal spending at a rapid rate.
Well, that's interesting. I currently make around 60k annually. During Clinton's terms, I paid at least 30% in taxes, overall. Since Bush took office, my tax bill has dropped to around 20%...and I even have fewer dependants than I did eight years ago.
Didn't realize I was considered rich! Woohoo! 
Oh...another thing...my aging parents have a HUGE estate worth maybe a few hundred thousand...maybe. If they had died during Clinton's terms, how much do you think we five kids would have paid in taxes? Anywhere from 30% to 50% of their massive estate. They're still alive and healthy, but if they were to die before the January 20th coronation, and if I understand the estate tax changes, we'd pay zilch. (Zilch on money that's already been taxed, by the way.) What do you think we'd have to pay the kingdom if they die after Obama takes the throne?
Please correct me if I'm wrong...I'm not an accountant.
It just seems to me that I'm better off than I was eight years ago. But you know how us wealthy folk don't always quite see the reality of the gritty working class life. 
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 7:56:55 PM
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Yeah...anyone who thinks they are hidden on this site better think again...Big Brother is watching and knows all they want to know.
Bob
Just reading through this thread and this seems a little frightening.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 8:31:53 PM
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Bush and Obama are both actors on a stage.
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RE: Evidence For The 'ONE WORLD ORDER - 11/14/2008 10:15:18 PM
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