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Stop FOCA - 11/8/2008 3:13:12 PM
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enterprise1701
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Dear Friends,
I'm writing to let you know about a terrible piece of legislation called "The Freedom of Choice Act" (FOCA).
FOCA would establish the right to abortion as a fundamental right (like the right to free speech) and wipe away every restriction on abortion nationwide.
It will eradicate state and federal abortion laws that the majority of Americans support and prevent states from enacting similar protective measures in the future.
Please read the expert analysis by Americans United for Life (AUL)
http://www.FightFOCA.com
Thank you, and post any thoughts you have.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/8/2008 5:33:22 PM
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Is there any place to find the actual text of the FOCA? I've looked at both pro-choice and pro-life web sites, and haven't found anything but vague descriptions of what it will do. From both sides, descriptions of the FOCA sound like hearsay, because no one actually ever quotes it...they just say what the results will be.
Does this act actually exist in written form, or is it sort of a dream of the pro-choice movement that doesn't have any written form yet? If this act does all that the pro-life web sites say it will do, then I don't think it can possibly pass Congress in its present form, even with a Democrat majority.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/8/2008 5:56:16 PM
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Well, it is nice to see that the federal government is trying to steal more rights from the people and the states to let their voice be heard. Why not just completely do away with the constitution and start all over with a complete liberal agenda.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 1:36:06 AM
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relady
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Try HERE.
Here is a summary of where the bill is at this point. It has only been introduced so it has several other stages it has to go through before being passed. It does, however, codify some aspects of Roe v. Wade.
4/19/2007--Introduced.
Freedom of Choice Act - Declares that it is the policy of the United States that every woman has the fundamental right to choose to: (1) bear a child; (2) terminate a pregnancy prior to fetal viability; or (3) terminate a pregnancy after fetal viability when necessary to protect her life or her health.
Prohibits a federal, state, or local governmental entity from: (1) denying or interfering with a woman's right to exercise such choices; or (2) discriminating against the exercise of those rights in the regulation or provision of benefits, facilities, services, or information. Provides that such prohibition shall apply retroactively.
Authorizes an individual aggrieved by a violation of this Act to obtain appropriate relief, including relief against a governmental entity, in a civil action.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 2:22:47 AM
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It does, however, codify some aspects of Roe v. Wade.
It goes much farther than Roe.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 11:06:06 AM
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It goes much farther than Roe. In what way? I don't see that it goes much further than making Roe v. Wade codified law. Maybe you can explain? And even so, I expect that if it gets further than "Introduction" there will be changes made before it would ever pass.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 10:21:57 PM
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FOCA was designed to supercede any law, regulation or local ordinance that impinges on a woman's right to choose; this means that every regulation on abortion that has been allowed under Roe will be turned back. In that, it goes much farther than Roe.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 10:28:54 PM
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relady
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this means that every regulation on abortion that has been allowed under Roe will be turned back. In that, it goes much farther than Roe.
The way I read it, I would think it would override anything on the books that doesn't allow exceptions for the life and health of the mother. Which is in line with the Roe ruling.
On another note, though, it most likely would override parental notification and I do have issues with that. Unlike most prochoicers, I don't think parental notification is a bad thing most of the time, although I do understand the concerns with abusive parents, etc. But to think that a 13 or 16 year old CHILD can make such a huge decision without parental input really troubles me deeply.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 10:41:07 PM
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The way I read it, I would think it would override anything on the books that doesn't allow exceptions for the life and health of the mother. Which is in line with the Roe ruling.
On another note, though, it most likely would override parental notification and I do have issues with that. Unlike most prochoicers, I don't think parental notification is a bad thing most of the time, although I do understand the concerns with abusive parents, etc. But to think that a 13 or 16 year old CHILD can make such a huge decision without parental input really troubles me deeply.
Parental notification laws, laws against tax funding of abortions, partial birth abortions, allowing hospitals and doctors to choose not to provide abortions, public funding of crisis pregnancy centers, information requirements - all these would be overturned by FOCA.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/9/2008 11:54:40 PM
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this means that every regulation on abortion that has been allowed under Roe will be turned back. In that, it goes much farther than Roe.
The way I read it, I would think it would override anything on the books that doesn't allow exceptions for the life and health of the mother. Which is in line with the Roe ruling.
On another note, though, it most likely would override parental notification and I do have issues with that. Unlike most prochoicers, I don't think parental notification is a bad thing most of the time, although I do understand the concerns with abusive parents, etc. But to think that a 13 or 16 year old CHILD can make such a huge decision without parental input really troubles me deeply.
Maybe you should've thought about your desired parental rights before you voted for Obama.  Liberal left, anti-life groups like NARAL, Planned Parenthood and NOW are more concerned with your minor daughter's "freedom" to indulge in sexual orgies (if that be her lifestyle "choice") than her parents' right to oversee her healthcare decisions -- and guess what? All of them supported Obama.
Oh, and "health of the mother" is nothing but a red herring. From what I've read so far in these forums (which isn't very much, compared to the zillions of threads here), different members have explained this over and over, many times, but still the CINOs just don't seem to get it. I don't think they want to.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/10/2008 11:13:58 AM
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Oh, and "health of the mother" is nothing but a red herring. From what I've read so far in these forums (which isn't very much, compared to the zillions of threads here), different members have explained this over and over, many times, but still the CINOs just don't seem to get it. I don't think they want to. I'm sorry, but I am NOT a CINO and I'm prochoice (for the most part). I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations. Besides, can you tell me realistically why I should be inclined to listen to people who question my Christianity and call me a baby killer and murderer? LOL, when the name calling starts those posts just get tuned out. As will yours if you continue the CINO rot.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/10/2008 11:17:24 AM
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relady
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allowing hospitals and doctors to choose not to provide abortions, I'll admit I took a rather cursory look at the proposal but i didn't see anything that would FORCE hospitals and doctors to provide abortions. Perhaps I missed that? And PBA would simply have to be rewritten to allow for the health of the mother and it still would not be performed very often at all - it never was. But nonetheless, it will go through several iterations before it ever becomes law. We would all (both sides) do well to pay attention to this particular bill. However, I am of the mind that some form of it will probably be passed.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/10/2008 11:35:39 AM
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I'm sorry, but I am NOT a CINO and I'm prochoice (for the most part). I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations. Besides, can you tell me realistically why I should be inclined to listen to people who question my Christianity and call me a baby killer and murderer? LOL, when the name calling starts those posts just get tuned out. As will yours if you continue the CINO rot.
I think the point they were trying to make is that "health of the mother" is very vague. It can be interpreted to mean anything from "she will die if she continues to carry the baby" to "she will lose her youthful figure", "she might get stretch marks", or "she might feel bad about it." As such, it's kind of a useless caveat.
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RE: more info on FOCA - 11/10/2008 1:40:22 PM
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I'll admit I took a rather cursory look at the proposal but i didn't see anything that would FORCE hospitals and doctors to provide abortions. Perhaps I missed that? And PBA would simply have to be rewritten to allow for the health of the mother and it still would not be performed very often at all - it never was. But nonetheless, it will go through several iterations before it ever becomes law. We would all (both sides) do well to pay attention to this particular bill. However, I am of the mind that some form of it will probably be passed.
Under a completely Democratic goverment, it is unlikely the bill will be come less expansive of abortion services, and in all likelihood if it changes it will only become more so. Typically in law the verbage "local governmental entity" includes any entity that recieves federal funding, including schools, hospitals, and even more recently, crisis pregnancy centers. As such these would be required to offer the fulllest abortion services to women under FOCA.
The one advantage of this bill, once it passes congress and is signed as promised by Obama is that it will once and for all demonstrate the difference between a pro-life Party and a Pro-abortion party; of course, by then it will be too late for the pro-life administration to change; abortion as a widely available tax-payer funded convenience at every stage of pregnancy up to and including the birth of a baby, will be Federal law, immune to modification by the courts or a future administration.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/10/2008 2:10:40 PM
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I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations.
The "health" of the mother and rape are simply there as outlets to offer abortion on demand when needed...
And what of YOUR complete discount of the unborn child? You mention the the health of the mother which doesn't even come into play with the vast majority of abortions...
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/10/2008 2:35:24 PM
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Oh, and "health of the mother" is nothing but a red herring. From what I've read so far in these forums (which isn't very much, compared to the zillions of threads here), different members have explained this over and over, many times, but still the CINOs just don't seem to get it. I don't think they want to. I'm sorry, but I am NOT a CINO and I'm prochoice (for the most part). I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations. Besides, can you tell me realistically why I should be inclined to listen to people who question my Christianity and call me a baby killer and murderer? LOL, when the name calling starts those posts just get tuned out. As will yours if you continue the CINO rot.
relady (and others), I realize I'm new to this forum; but I came here in the aftermath of the elections because I was looking for voices of reason -- Christian people, dedicated to God and Christ, who understand exactly what abortion is according to God's word, and neither ignore the issue (as the mainstream secular media and politicians mostly do), nor make excuses for it. This particular thread, "Stop FOCA" seemed to have a positive focus -- since all you Obama supporters keep saying we need to "shut up and get over" the fact that he won the election, anyway -- and so I was reading in hopes to find information about what Christians can do (if anything) to help stop the continued (and most likely increased) legalized murder of preborn children that will happen under an Obama presidency.
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I am NOT a CINO and I'm prochoice (for the most part).
To continue what I was saying, I was looking for voices of reason. I've seen many of your posts in the other threads, particularly the abortion-related ones; and it does not surprise me that you openly declare yourself here to be "prochoice" (i.e., pro-abortion or abortion rights). After seeing some of the shallow reasons, objections, etc. that you (and some others with similar views) put forth for discounting the abortion issue and supporting Obama anyway in spite of it, I had determined that your writings didn't have anything of value to offer me personally. I'm not trying to be mean, it's just that like most others here, my online time is limited (or at least should be); and so in order to reduce the amount of time spent studying some of these lengthy threads for helpful and useful information, I had placed you (along with some other individuals) on block. While I don't recall why I temporarily unblocked your account (it was probably due to a Christian responding to one of your posts and so I wanted to see the context of what was originally said), I see now that curiosity killed the cat. 
From what I have seen here, most professing Christians who supported Obama -- who either wound up voting for him or severely struggled with the decision, while they may have brought up the moral aspect of the war, or Bush's ineffectiveness, etc., their core reasons basically boiled down to money. This would include the issues of "the economy," taxes, unemployment, NAFTA, healthcare, etc., because at their base, these are all really just financial concerns. 
Yet what did Jesus and the Bible tell us about that? "You cannot serve both God and mammon." (Matthew 6:24). Also, "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil, for which some have strayed from the faith in their greediness, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (I Timothy 6:10, emphasis added). Jesus placed little emphasis on financial matters during his earthly ministry -- if anything He had to deal with those who were preoccupied (in one way or another) with it.
I can see some now responding, "Wait a minute! I'm not greedy. I'm not trying to get *rich* here -- I just want to be able to feed and keep clothes on my family's back! We've had a tough eight years under Bush, and I don't want four more..." But according to Jesus, we as Christians should not be concerned so as to be worried about money, to where it is the primary force behind our decisions, over and above the more important aspects of His kingdom. The following passage says it best, what *should* have been the priority of Christians in this election:
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
"Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature?
"So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith?
"Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things." (Matthew 6:24-34, emphasis added).
Over and over again, the clear emphasis of this passage is not to worry about temporal things. The job markets, the international trade situation, gas prices, the struggle to make ends meet on a weekly paycheck -- all these things are temporal and will pass away to nothing. But the life of an innocent, helpless, dependent child, freshly created from the hand of God, not to be protected, valued, defended and welcomed by His very own people into the world which He has given us....Something just seems horribly, terribly, fundamentally wrong about that.  Presuming the spirit of God is inside you, as you claim that you walk with Him -- how can you not see that?? Even the young serviceman or woman who enlists voluntarily (knowing the risks of combat in Iraq), and sadly and regrettably loses their lives on foreign soil -- at least they had a choice. They were born into this world, experienced the love of their parents and families (and gave love in return), achieved academically, and had 18 - 20+ yrs. to learn about the love of their Heavenly Father, to (hopefully) accept Him into their lives and experience the joy and peace He so freely gives us. The aborted, brutally killed preborn child experiences *none* of these things.
When you and others describe yourselves as both Christian and "pro-choice," at the very least this reveals (to me) that there is a lack of true spiritual understanding. In the spring of 1984 as a nineteen-year-old, I was first confronted with the evidence of abortion. A "Pretty Good Printing" tract from Last Days (gospel singer Keith Green's ministry in Lindale, TX) described what it entailed and what God's Word had to say about it. I remember, as a relatively new Christian having only accepted Him into my life a little over a year prior -- seeing the pictures of the 4, 5 and 6-month old dead "fetuses" lying in buckets (like the take-home chicken kind) of their own blood...the strained expressions on their tiny faces... *pauses*.... Even now I weep as I think of my subsequent later disillusionment with "God's people" in our local churches (many of whom were apathetic and indifferent, just like some on this board); and withdrawal from the active pro-life cause, when all these years I could have made a much greater difference!  *sniffs*.... But back then, that small tract was all I needed. There was no question about the smokescreens of world overpopulation, "mother's health," rape and incest, handicapped children, or a woman's (much more sinister and selfishly-motivated) "right to choose". A picture was worth a thousand words, and Scripture notwithstanding, it said all that needed to be said regarding God's view of this brutal, selfish, cruel practice. It never occurred to me to argue with Him or question it. I could never envision Him looking upon carnage of this nature and calibre and saying to anyone responsible for it, "Well done, My good and faithful servant."....
"For after all these things the Gentiles seek..." (verse 32). Back in Jesus' day, unlike our own, "the Gentiles" were virtually synonymous with those who did not know or follow God; who, being raised outside of His favored, chosen nation of Israel, were not taught about Him as children, and therefore grew up worshipping false gods and being concerned with temporal things. Perhaps they *thought* they knew Him, that their way was the right way, and that they were on the right spiritual path. But they did so without knowledge or understanding; and most importantly and significantly, without (or at least without proper regard to) the divine Revelation that He had given us.
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I'm prochoice (for the most part).
You cannot take "part" of Obama's agenda and tell him, "I want you to remove this abortion restriction, but not that one over there". He's not listening. You voted for him -- you gave him carte blanche; and now those of us who did everything we could both in and out of the ballot box to try and stop him have an extremely steep uphill struggle. Thanks a lot, relady. I'm sorry -- please forgive me if I can't immediately jump on your bandwagon as a fellow ally in this thread, who is interested in and dedicated to saving human lives through stopping FOCA. 
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I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations.
As for why "the mother's health" is a handy obfuscation used by the disingenuous pro-abortion lobby, that part of your response has already been addressed (and quite well). Thanks, Zhi. :)
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Besides, can you tell me realistically why I should be inclined to listen to people who question my Christianity and call me a baby killer and murderer?
This is the only part of your post that indicts me. My apologies for the CINO reference -- I will not use it again. But I still hold that your reasoning here on the whole abortion <--> politics issue (how they relate to one another) is sorely deficient. I left a church in the past partly because of this (as manifested through the pastor and other leadership), and so there I stand. I can do no other.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/11/2008 9:24:15 AM
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I really just "love" the way you completely and utterly discount the mother's health. Just peachy. It's only a red herring in certain people's imaginations.
In the 1920's my grandmother was pregnant. She was told that if she gave birth she would die. She was encouraged to have an abortion by the doctors in a hospital. It was both legal and safe. That was decades before Roe v Wade gave women the "right to abortion on demand without reason">
The "purpose" of this act from what I can see is to take away state rights to regulate abortion. It's big brother taking another step to "ensure" muder on demand without just cause.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/11/2008 9:34:04 AM
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Post number 17. Great post 
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13 For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb. 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/11/2008 9:39:11 AM
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From a post entry back around 1996.. source unknown:
As one who loves children, I speak today on behalf of children - children of all ages: Toddlers, babies and especially those little pre-born humans who today reside inside their mothers or who later will be received and delivered (or murdered).
During the months leading to the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln repeatedly discussed the matter with his cabinet. During one difficult discussion, he asked: "Gentlemen, how many legs does a sheep have?" Each man answered correctly, "Four, Mr. President." He proceeded, "Let's call his tail a leg. Now how many legs?" Each man replied, "Five, Mr. President." Mr. Lincoln retorted, "Nope, still only four. Just because we call it a leg doesn't make it one."
Mr. Lincoln's wit and wisdom speak to our present day confusion about abortion. Let me explain.
Abortion is murder. Each abortion snuffs out an innocent human life. Tragically, doctors have deceived the American public. Referring to unborn babies as "fetus," "embryo," or "zygote," may be scientifically correct, but does not change the fact: These little ones are little human beings. Though called "parasite," "blob," or "tissue," give each wee creature about 266 days after conception and see what emerges from his mother's womb. It will be a human baby, not a zebra, a trout, frog or an orangutan.
Remember Mr. Lincoln. Don't be deceived by folks (even doctors) who call a tail a leg - or humans anything but humans. When a human egg and a human sperm unite, the resulting individual is simply human. Given time, nutrition and protection, he or she will grow to maturity. Calling abortion a "termination" or "evacuating the uterus" doesn't change its reality as murder-slaughtering a human being with premeditated malice.
Were it not tragic, some abortion comments could be comical. I spoke to a person yesterday, a doctor whom said the unborn baby is "a parasite without feeling, thought, or experience..the fetus simply does not have the things required to feel pain..."
But nerves are in place by six to eight weeks after conception. The chemicals necessary to send messages over nerve pathways to the brain are present by 12 weeks. Ask yourself - if you were stuck, pinched, grabbed, cut or crushed, how would you react? You likely would squirm, thrash, try to escape or fight. Your blood pressure would go up; your pulse would speed up.
That's how pre-born babies respond. Before being cut to pieces, sucked apart, chemically killed, or otherwise abused (to death), these little humans struggle, seeking to escape the destruction. In my opinion, abortionists have forfeited the privilege to be called "physicians", for they have abandoned the responsibility of acting like physicians.
What about rape? What about incest? These horrors defy descriptive condemnation. They represent the least human and most selfish acts imaginable - along with murder - and they deserve swift and severe punishment. A woman or girl abused by rape or incest should be seen promptly, evaluated with compassion and treated appropriately to prevent conception. Should pregnancy occur, the tragedy should not be compounded by another crime: Murdering the baby.
Rape and incest deserve one further note: They (thank God) represent a relatively uncommon cause of pregnancy - and figure in less than 2 percent of abortions. The other 98 percent are done for the sake of convenience (not that of the baby). Abortion represents the most common surgical procedure performed in America today. Enough human lives are snuffed out each day to populate Mena, De Queen, or Fordyce. Each week, abortionists slaughter a group of babies equal in number to the population of Springdale or El Dorado.
One more tragedy - often delayed and overlooked - concerns the mother of the aborted baby. As a leader in my church I have cared for and counseled such women - women who find it difficult to live with an awakened conscience. Though duped, squelched or ignored, a conscience awakened to reality may produce guilt, grief and pain. Even with the reality of forgiveness, the scars may produce long-standing consequences.
One last 'leg-tail' deserves comment. Can you remember folks saying, "Don't push your morality on me!" when foes of abortion challenge its practice? Most folk appreciate our society's restrictions on rape, robbery, assault and murder - and those restrictions are based on morality, as is every aspect of our lives, whether collectively or individually.
As a believer in Jesus Christ, I'm convinced that moral absolutes exist.
My convictions as a Christian include the sanctity of human life. If each individual human (including unborn babies) does not have worth, if we do not acknowledge our responsibility to care for the unwanted and the defenseless, we will find our collective path ending at the ovens of Auschwitz, the Gulags of Siberia, or the Abortion Chambers of America.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/11/2008 4:01:36 PM
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allowing hospitals and doctors to choose not to provide abortions
If the law forces doctors to perform abortions (or otherwise would discriminate against those doctors or allow discrimination against them), that would be insane. No doctor should be, by law, required to commit murder. This would definitely be a law worth breaking, for the Bible would never promote that we break its laws just because governmental laws mandate that we should (ie: the Bible would never promote that we murder someone even if governmental law mandates it, murder being defined as deliberate unjustified killing). No doctor should be given the ultimatum that he must perform an abortion or else there will/could be consequences.
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/12/2008 10:43:17 PM
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Churchmouse26
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I think the more likely scenario is that these doctors, nurses, pharmacists and other healthcare workers would be discriminated against in the workplace for refusing to participate, either by disciplinary action (demotion, firing, transfer, etc.) or denied positions in hospitals, clinics and pharmacies before the situation arises, if their objections are known. Or is that what you meant by "discrimination"?
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RE: Stop FOCA - 11/13/2008 8:51:11 AM
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Jhud
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I'm not normally big on signing petitions, but I thought this one was worth it.
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Jack
I believe in Christianity as I believe that the sun has risen: not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
- C.S. Lewis
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