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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/9/2008 9:56:53 PM
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Dancre
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stop looking at the situation and keep your eyes focused on God's word. Find at least 3 verses that promise God will fix the problem and focus on them instead of the problem.
You need to be like David when he faced Golliath and not like his brothers.
His brothers saw a huge giant no one could conquer, while David saw someone who was so big, there was no way he could miss. Stop looking for God to move and cling to His word. Walk by faith, not by what you see. Hang in there, Rami. God is faithful, sometimes it does get bad before it gets worse, but hold onto Jesus and fix your eyes on Him, not the problem. Capise? It will get better, He promised.
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Ever go through a very difficult and painful situation and pray and pray and the situation just gets worse? I'm trying to have faith that it will all work out and that good comes from all things, but i'm getting tired. So tired. The situation is now ridiculously out of control and I'm soooooooooooo hurt, it's getting more difficult to have faith and im getting angry. It all seems so hopeless, especially since the only one who can fix it is God and I don't see Him moving.
My question... has anyone gone through something like this, where it just kept getting worse BUT in the end you saw what the purpose was? I guess what I'm asking for is testimonies from people who have been there and can testify that God saw them through and that the ending result was so worth the trial.
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/10/2008 10:51:40 AM
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I am so sorry about your hard times and struggle. Life is not fair, but God is teaching me through all my struggles; keep on pressing forward to win the race. Philippians 3:14. I pray that God will bring love and comfort in your life.
My newest struggle: Unemployment. Is there a forum on this site for those of us whom are out of work?
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/12/2008 5:55:41 PM
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d4nnyb0y02
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ORIGINAL: RamiRedeemed
Ever go through a very difficult and painful situation and pray and pray and the situation just gets worse? I'm trying to have faith that it will all work out and that good comes from all things, but i'm getting tired. So tired. The situation is now ridiculously out of control and I'm soooooooooooo hurt, it's getting more difficult to have faith and im getting angry. It all seems so hopeless, especially since the only one who can fix it is God and I don't see Him moving.
My question... has anyone gone through something like this, where it just kept getting worse BUT in the end you saw what the purpose was? I guess what I'm asking for is testimonies from people who have been there and can testify that God saw them through and that the ending result was so worth the trial.
I think RC is right. God's Word *must* be sufficient for ALL TRIALS we come across. If it isn't, then in the end... no amount of examples will matter.
However, I'd be happy to give you an example from my own life.
Just after graduating high school I move up state a ways to attend college. I had around $5,000 saved up, so I was living in a house w/ some friends and preparing to attend classes up there. A few months after moving up there, my mom left my dad (there were getting a divorce), and my dad lost his job of 20+ years. I moved home to take care of him for awhile instead of go to school. I had a part time job, working as many hours as I could to make ends meet. Turns out, my dad had a bit of a drug addiction, gambling addiction, and vices in general in his life... his world was coming down around him. Perhaps his testimony through the situation will be better to hear than mine... given his perspective on the situation some day down the road.
Anyways, my dad signed his savings over to me, at the age of 19... that was hard. Hard, not because I was afraid of the road ahead, but because my dad, who was in his late 40's, was giving full financial authority to his son of 19 years old. This wasn't easy to take, because it broke my heart to be in a situation as that... so humbling... who am I to govern my own father? Why would God give me authority like that? Be that as it may, I took the savings over, which was only a couple thousand dollars, and began using what money I had, and my job, to make the mortgage payment, electric/gas, water, and any other payment he had plus my own in the hopes he would get back on his feet.
My car insurance had just expired, and w/ everything going on I was so busy I hadn't called to renew it. I was praying, "Lord, help me to put my faith in you... help me to JUST put my faith in ONLY YOU." Well, the Lord works in mysterious ways. By my own fault of not being insured... I tale-ended a guy when I was driving. He came out of nowhere it seemed! But, I hit him, and as soon as I did I knew that was the moment I was praying for. I wasn't going to be able to trust in my savings anymore... the $5,000 I had saved away that was causing me to say, "It won't be so bad... I have my money to take care of us." As soon as I hit him, I realized this... and I said silently, "Thank you for everything I have, and everything you have given me. The Lord gives, and the Lord takes away, blessed be the name of the Lord."
I ended up paying nearly ALL of my savings on that accident, and, the guy who I hit never came up with proof of the claim. However, I gave him my word I would pay him based on what he told me the damage was... and the estimate he said he got... and I did just that. I made monthly payments to him, each month I *knew* that he was ripping me off, and to this day... he never gave me a claim of any kind, but I paid him what I told him I would pay him, and the Lord caused me to learn to trust in ONLY HIM! Each letter I would right to him and his family... seeing how they were... hoping things are going good... praying for them... that sort of thing. And, I was. My heart broke for the man because he was truly stealing from me, and if he wasn't... then the Lord will show that to me someday too.
So, time went on and I cared for my dad... I decided to take classes at a community college near home, so I could work, and go to school... and the Lord did provide. I was still able to make ends meet, somehow, and see my dad through. I was up all the time... working... going to school... and I kept the checkbook balanced just fine, even if it got tight sometimes :).
Well, it came to a point where staying there was only enabling him to a dangerous degree, and the Lord was calling me to move on. I told my dad that I would have to leave by a certain date. He still didn't have a job, and he was in a irroncilable state of depression (so it seemed).
Well, sometime after leaving, my dad went on... not making payment on anything of course... and I moved elsewhere hoping the Lord would do whatever the Lord would do w/ him. He was eventually brought to the end of his rope... and the Lord brought Him to Teen Challenge. He will probably tell you to this day, if he had any other option... he wouldn't have gone to Teen Challenge (thus, if I had stayed, he never would have gone). This confirmed in me that the Lord did tell me to go when I went, just as he told me to go when I came :). My dad successfully made it through the teen challenge 15 months... and is working fulltime, attending church... and spiritually stronger and recovered than he has ever been, I think... and things are looking up and up for him.
There is more to that story... as it never ends. I'm married now... and that too... was a continual answer, in a long and on going, never ending story of blessings from God. :)
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/12/2008 10:29:02 PM
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to me god makes us go through difficult times to bring us closer to him , like im a prime example
i look back at the difficult things i have been through and ask myself , would i be as faithfull and worship god like i do now ?
the answer is no
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/13/2008 6:31:17 AM
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Thanks everyone!! Things are looking up quite a bit. It's still not all sorted out but I'm understanding a great deal of why everything is happening. I saw Gods faithfulness like never before through this. It's not something I'll ever forget :)
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/13/2008 8:16:38 AM
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Whoo, boy, yes! My family has been going through a trial that I'm not free to talk about because it involves others, but it has just gotten worse and worse. And now it's incapable of resolution, none of it though fault of our own. We just have to accept the situation and go on with our lives. My family is all fine, just sad at others' losses. The cost to us was significant but not overwhelming.
The bottom line? God allowed it to happen, and is weaving His tapestry with consumate skill. All we see is the back, with threads of sorrow and loss criss-crossed with threads of love and caring, apparently in a big mess. When we see the other side in heaven (the "picture side") there will be a glorious montage of love, grace and God's gifts, and every stitch will be perfect.
Meanwhile, we have to depend on knowing that God doesn't waste anything good and great good will come from this. So we rejoice by faith that the end will be good. We aren't going to tire ourselves out waiting to find out what He did; our job is to soldier on and obey orders. Later we'll know the "why."
A good example of this was the brutal execution of an innocent Man 2000 years ago - great good came out of it! It changed the world, and changed your world. To God be the glory!
I like those verses from Romans, and recently heard a definition for the word glory, mentioned in Romans 5-3 that RC posted. Glory is the armament of God which we are advised to put on in Ephesians 6. We are creatures who think linear, where God thinks alpha and omega at the same time. We for example celebrate Jesus coming into our world, then 3 or so months later celebrate his redeeming us, instead of celebrating both events at the same time. He is King and he is suffering servant all in one. The "challenge" for you and for me is to view our trial as having an end and a result because we are wearing God's glory as we go through it, the armor of understanding, the armor of peace, the armor of patience, the armor of I'm afraid and He knows that, the armor of I'm sick and tired, the armor of a verse or hymn that comes to mind to help us bear up, the armor of fellowship and support by others, all of it and know the day will come when we will see clearly. I like that pop song, I can see clearly now, the rain is gone. Well, 1 day our rain will be done and we will then see clearly. Look at Matthew 11:28-30 and take comfort in the teacher is still on the job in your life and be at Peace within.. :) (Drussell52)
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RE: really hard times & Gods plan - 11/13/2008 8:41:57 AM
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buckifn
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I have learned a lot through several experiences that brought deep suffering.
1. There are no good days or bad days. There is simply another day God has chosen to keep me here on this earth for His purpose.
2. It doesn't matter at all if I see or feel God doing anything- He still is God and it is His plan that charts the course of my life.
3. Regardless of what circumstances I find myself in on any given day God is to be worshipped.
4. What happens here in this present life is eternally connected to our life hereafter and we may not see or understand the how's and why's of that connection until then.
5. The steadfast love of the Lord NEVER ceases. That alone has carried me through some horrible situations. That's why I can glorify Him.
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