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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 7:30:28 PM
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todd_t
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The MEDIA should spend more time on Obama's background than some guy who ask a tough question -- it was a legitimate question no matter what they can dig up.
The media's been doing that for 20 months. Where have you been?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 7:38:05 PM
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The MEDIA should spend more time on Obama's background than some guy who ask a tough question -- it was a legitimate question no matter what they can dig up.
The media's been doing that for 20 months. Where have you been?
The way the media digs into Obama's history is a lot like studying progressive revelation.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 7:40:32 PM
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The way the media digs into Obama's history is a lot like studying progressive revelation.
Both right and left-wing news sources are free to research Obama's past. Who is stopping either from digging further?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 7:51:10 PM
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Both right and left-wing news sources are free to research Obama's past. Who is stopping either from digging further?
Richard J. Daley Library and Columbia College?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 7:56:44 PM
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Both right and left-wing news sources are free to research Obama's past. Who is stopping either from digging further?
Richard J. Daley Library and Columbia College?
I think it is pretty clear that the press is far more efficient in exposing all the initimate facts about Joe the Plumber in less than a week and Sarah Palin in just a few weeks than it is about the Democrat nominee for President. Is it because they are afraid of what might be exposed?
Perhaps he's not really The One. What, oh what would Oprah do if he is exposed?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 8:00:10 PM
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Perhaps he's not really The One. What, oh what would Oprah do if he is exposed?
I imagine she will buy an lsland in the Caribbean where he can be annointed king.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/17/2008 8:11:28 PM
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I'm surprised no one has said this was a Karl Rove stunt.
After all, the left does enjoy crediting him with everything else....
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 10/31/2008 2:56:59 PM
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I am Joe the plumber.  I am the middle class guy who'd like to open a buisiness and make more money, perhaps create more jobs in my community. I thought the democratic party was on my side. That the democratic party was going to look out for me, the middle class guy who seeks to get ahead. Why is it that the democratic party has turned on me for asking a question? Are they only in support of middle class folks who wish to remain where they are?
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RE: Was Joe The Plumber really a plant? - 10/31/2008 3:29:37 PM
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Some have wondered if Joe The Plumber really was concerned about the tax cut or just a "plant" to get a "gotcha" moment for Obama. Well according to the NYT...
One week ago, Joe Wurzelbacher was just another working man living in a modest ranch house near Toledo thinking about how to expand his plumbing business. But when he stopped Senator Barack Obama during a visit to his block this weekend to ask about his taxes, he set himself on a path to being the newest media celebrity — and, like other celebrities, found himself under scrutiny.
Turns out that “Joe the Plumber,” as he became nationally known when Senator John McCain made him a theme at Wednesday night’s third and final presidential debate, may run a plumbing business but he is not a licensed plumber. His full name is Samuel J. Wurzelbacher. And he owes a bit in back taxes.
Click below to read more
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/16/joe-in-the-spotlight/
You guys just don't get it do you? It was the answer, not the questioner that caused all of the raised eyebrows. It wouldn't have mattered if it was John McCain himself that asked the question; Nobama's answer of "spread the wealth" is a basic tenant of socialism, i.e from each according to his means to each according to his needs.
Very scary indeed. God help us all.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 12:37:07 PM
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ok no offense, but today and these last few days, I see joe the plumber walking around waving as if he is runnning for some office.. i mean he has become a celebrity or something... today he was walking between rows of people on each side of him, like walking down the runway... Miss America... waving like Miss America waves while taking that walk down the aisle... lol.. i mean really, that is surrealistic. and they are looking to joe the plumber as if he is some kind of political expert.
i am constantly amused by the various things by each party to be a drawing point. lol...
ok please someone tell me what is the point of Joe the plumber? to be a representative of the common man? hey wouldn't that be fun to be in the next campaign someone like that?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 12:46:48 PM
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ok no offense, but today and these last few days, I see joe the plumber walking around waving as if he is runnning for some office.. i mean he has become a celebrity or something... today he was walking between rows of people on each side of him, like walking down the runway... Miss America... waving like Miss America waves while taking that walk down the aisle... lol.. i mean really, that is surrealistic. and they are looking to joe the plumber as if he is some kind of political expert.
i am constantly amused by the various things by each party to be a drawing point. lol...
ok please someone tell me what is the point of Joe the plumber? to be a representative of the common man? hey wouldn't that be fun to be in the next campaign someone like that?
First off, you wantch too much TV. Secondly, for as much as our liberal friends say that McCain thrust Joe into the spotlight, it seems that it was his chance meeting with Obama that made Joe famous for now.
Lastly, Joe the plumber is the common man. Perhaps he is not for now because his chance meeting thrust him into the limelight. But he is the common man. Someone who works hard to earn a living and desires to do better. Someone who is looking at the plans being offered and asking good questions about those plans so he can choose which one will help him get where he wants to be.
My question is this. if the democratic party is the party looking out for the common man, why aer they allowing him to be attacked?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 12:57:03 PM
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ok no offense, but today and these last few days, I see joe the plumber walking around waving as if he is runnning for some office.. i mean he has become a celebrity or something... today he was walking between rows of people on each side of him, like walking down the runway... Miss America... waving like Miss America waves while taking that walk down the aisle... lol.. i mean really, that is surrealistic. and they are looking to joe the plumber as if he is some kind of political expert.
i am constantly amused by the various things by each party to be a drawing point. lol...
Here's a clue, he was able to get 0bama to reveal his real agenda when he asked a simple question. He was then raked over the coals where his personal, private and I might add confidential information was illegally accessed and given to the media. It angered a lot of regular people who don't like what they see.
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ok please someone tell me what is the point of Joe the plumber? to be a representative of the common man? hey wouldn't that be fun to be in the next campaign someone like that?
Yes that is exactly who Joe the Plumber is. He resonates with the average American who works hard, has regular life issues and wants to rise above his circumstances. Not only that but because of the way the media ran roughshod over his personal life he is currently jobless because Ohio is not a Right to Work state and the plumbers union has shut down his boss. Maybe that's a reason why Ohio is not doing well economically.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 12:58:50 PM
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ok no offense, but today and these last few days, I see joe the plumber walking around waving as if he is runnning for some office.. i mean he has become a celebrity or something... today he was walking between rows of people on each side of him, like walking down the runway... Miss America... waving like Miss America waves while taking that walk down the aisle... lol.. i mean really, that is surrealistic. and they are looking to joe the plumber as if he is some kind of political expert.
i am constantly amused by the various things by each party to be a drawing point. lol...
ok please someone tell me what is the point of Joe the plumber? to be a representative of the common man? hey wouldn't that be fun to be in the next campaign someone like that?
First off, you wantch too much TV. Secondly, for as much as our liberal friends say that McCain thrust Joe into the spotlight, it seems that it was his chance meeting with Obama that made Joe famous for now.
Lastly, Joe the plumber is the common man. Perhaps he is not for now because his chance meeting thrust him into the limelight. But he is the common man. Someone who works hard to earn a living and desires to do better. Someone who is looking at the plans being offered and asking good questions about those plans so he can choose which one will help him get where he wants to be.
My question is this. if the democratic party is the party looking out for the common man, why aer they allowing him to be attacked?
I dont know the answer to your question in your last paragraph.. and yes I do watch a lot of political news coverage. i guess i'll have to go back to real life afer Tuesday night!
thanks for answering my question about joe's role in the matter.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 1:12:28 PM
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Secondly, for as much as our liberal friends say that McCain thrust Joe into the spotlight, it seems that it was his chance meeting with Obama that made Joe famous for now.
That's not how it went. If you look at the whole tape, Obama was going down the line shaking hands, Joe was in the back and ran up to the front and called out towards Obama all after Obama had moved on past the area where Joe was. Obama came back to that area where Joe pushed his way up front and called out to Obama and that's when Joe asked the question. Actually, you all really need to see and listen to the whole thing past the "spread the wealth" where h pretty much broke it down to Joe, because I think many of ou have only heard that sound bite or seen that little clip.
As far as Joe is concerned, McCain brought him up, in doing that, of course the media was going to find out who this person was, that's their job. If McCain was so concerned about the privacy of Joe, he wouldn't have used his name as much, he could have just refrenced that incident and made his point. I mean, Palin, Obama, and Biden mentioned real people during the debates and the media didn't go after them, the difference is McCain brought him up and continued to bring him up over 20 times, along with Obama who talked about him after McCain kept bringing it up.
Personally, I think Joe is loving the spotlight, and that's all good, but I have problem with him lying about his income and so-called business he was going to buy and the income it was going to make. Not only that, he needs to learn to not speak of things he knows nothing about. Case in point...
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gJsPHiQlgYvAsrHz9mvHJlezQJLwD943L4LG0
Even a Fox News anchor called him on it and told him Obama has always talked about peace for Israel when he was interviewed over the phone.
If that's the mascot for the McCain/Palin campaign, I'll take the mascot for Obama/Biden, the everyday- rational thinking-informative-common man any day.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 1:37:52 PM
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It's embarrassing to watch all the "names" being called out at McCain's rallies. Joe lied. It's almost like McCain is replacing Palin for Joe.
Longfingers. great post.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/1/2008 3:10:59 PM
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ok please someone tell me what is the point of Joe the plumber?
I too have questions that aren't being answered.
I am Joe.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/17/2008 9:53:29 AM
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Now Ya'll Quit picking on Unliscensed Plumber Joe! You know in this country he can do anything. Who knows he can jump around from Community College to Community College and eventually get his degree in Plumbing! Or maybe even Governor of Alaska! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/17/2008 11:06:34 AM
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Now Ya'll Quit picking on Unliscensed Plumber Joe! You know in this country he can do anything. Who knows he can jump around from Community College to Community College and eventually get his degree in Plumbing! Or maybe even Governor of Alaska! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I jumped around to few schools, due to moving, and joined the military taking 12 years to complete my degree in Electrical Engineering. What's your point? Should we only elect people who go to college on their daddy's dollar often only getting in because of clout?
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/17/2008 11:19:01 AM
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jumped around to few schools, due to moving, and joined the military taking 12 years to complete my degree in Electrical Engineering. What's your point? Should we only elect people who go to college on their daddy's dollar often only getting in because of clout?
as a veteran myself I know what you mean about it taking quite some time for one to get a college education while serving. I get that. "My point" was a reference to how people went NUTS judging a man who got into an IVY league school and excelled academically while Praising a Governor who bounced around from JR. College to Jr. College.
This "plumber" guy was a joke! If he's the best the GOP has, maybe he can be Palin's running mate in 2012.
Praise God that my fellow Christian brothers and sisters out there didnt screw up this election, especially in Ohio.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/17/2008 11:34:15 AM
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If he's the best the GOP has, maybe he can be Palin's running mate in 2012. Hmmm.... 
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/18/2008 5:59:10 AM
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as a veteran myself I know what you mean about it taking quite some time for one to get a college education while serving. I get that. "My point" was a reference to how people went NUTS judging a man who got into an IVY league school and excelled academically while Praising a Governor who bounced around from JR. College to Jr. College.
That is because the Ivy league school graduate had zero leadership experience, zero administrative experience, and came with a socialist message.
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This "plumber" guy was a joke! If he's the best the GOP has, maybe he can be Palin's running mate in 2012.
What was the joke about him, Obama came to his neighborhood and Joe asked him a question and the question brought out even more of Obama's true colors.
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Praise God that my fellow Christian brothers and sisters out there didnt screw up this election, especially in Ohio.
That remains to be seen.
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RE: Was his question a good one? - 11/18/2008 8:07:29 AM
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That is because the Ivy league school graduate had zero leadership experience, zero administrative experience, and came with a socialist message.
Weak Argument! The progressive tax system dates back to a Republican President. Teddy Roosevelt, which was one of McCain's hero's, Probably cause they went to school together! LOL, anyways, the Tax system we have in this country is nothing more than a "Spread the Wealth" system. How else do roads get paved, or construction get paid for? Just get over it, America has finally woken up! It's just a good thing that the GOP's secret lover didnt cost this country the election like it did in 04.
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