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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 9:05:38 AM
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And yet Added to this it's even wilder when we hear conformation and variation to things we have heard and/or even shared ourselves in the past; it seems to all be coming together like puzzle pieces in making a picture for our understanding.
On the second tape of  :
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The Next Revival
In this series, Charles Simpson issues a prophetic vision and call for the Church to connect with the Lord and His harvest field. He takes a fresh look at Jesus and Isaiah (focusing on Isaiah 58-61, as well as Luke 4) as Jesus declares His mission. Just like Jesus,we need to receive the anointing of the Lord and the revelation of His purpose in order to fulfill His call. As we look to Jesus, we can see more clearly what God has saved us FROM, and what He has saved us FOR.
dh downloaded this one for me from
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In the 1960s a little Assembly of God Preacher decided that he was watching to much television and that he was going to giving some of that time to prayer. And as he prayed he was led to go out on the street. He was Pastoring a congregation but not much was happening. Instead, when he began to pray God said get out and get out on the streets. He started going to gangs, and gang leaders got saved, and it was such a powerful thing he wrote a book called The Cross and The Switchblade, and it was published, and it went like wild fire --- there was such an anointing on that book
. You know what happened? He changed from praying for God to bless his church to hearing God saying get out on the streets and bless some people, and God blessed his church and God blessed the people, and God blessed thousands.
Do you know who that Preacher was? Yes, jbow, the same one who wrote this :
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http://www.worldchallenge.org/en/node/5656
David Wilkerson.
No, it was no accident or coincidences that you posted that link, it was indeed a leading from God; another puzzle piece coming together in making a picture for our understanding. Thank you!!
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 9:18:44 AM
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I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
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Seriously? The fires are not unusual. They happen every year.
Seriously, you should read the whole thing, word for word (bet you never stopped to read/refresh your memory of Isaiah chapters 58-61, or Luke 4 either), study on it, meditate on it, and pray over posts before for you reply to them; you miss a lot when you just breeze posts and assume what you think they're about.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 9:19:52 AM
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I found these words:
In the 1960s a little Assembly of God Preacher decided that he was watching to much television and that he was going to giving some of that time to prayer. And as he prayed he was led to go out on the street. He was Pastoring a congregation but not much was happening. Instead, when he began to pray God said get out and get out on the streets. He started going to gangs, and gang leaders got saved, and it was such a powerful thing he wrote a book called The Cross and The Switchblade, and it was published, and it went like wild fire --- there was such an anointing on that book
. You know what happened? He changed from praying for God to bless his church to hearing God saying get out on the streets and bless some people, and God blessed his church and God blessed the people, and God blessed thousands.
Do you know who that Preacher was? Yes, jbow, the same one who wrote this :
David Wilkerson.
If I am not mistaken there is a second key element to this story that you told.
If I am not mistaken, one of those gang leaders became a very famous preacher, in his own right-Louis Paulau (sp)
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 9:43:15 AM
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My forum name comes from Proverbs 31 and that woman. She has no fear for the future because she had done what is necessary to insure her families needs are provided for.
In proverbs these passages also deal with "prudence"
Pr 13:16 - Show Context
Every prudent man acts out of knowledge, but a fool exposes his folly.
Pr 14:8 - Show Context
The wisdom of the prudent is to give thought to their ways, but the folly of fools is deception.
Pr 14:15 - Show Context
A simple man believes anything, but a prudent man gives thought to his steps.
Pr 14:18 - Show Context
The simple inherit folly, but the prudent are crowned with knowledge.
Pr 19:14 - Show Context
Houses and wealth are inherited from parents, but a prudent wife is from the Lord.
Pr 22:3 - Show Context
A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
Pr 27:12 - Show Context
The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
If this preacher off base? I don't know. I have always lived with the idea that I need to be prepared to provide for my loved ones and my church family when times are hard. For me it's an act of love that motivates me to do this.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 10:03:51 AM
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I found these words:
In the 1960s a little Assembly of God Preacher decided that he was watching to much television and that he was going to giving some of that time to prayer. And as he prayed he was led to go out on the street. He was Pastoring a congregation but not much was happening. Instead, when he began to pray God said get out and get out on the streets. He started going to gangs, and gang leaders got saved, and it was such a powerful thing he wrote a book called The Cross and The Switchblade, and it was published, and it went like wild fire --- there was such an anointing on that book
. You know what happened? He changed from praying for God to bless his church to hearing God saying get out on the streets and bless some people, and God blessed his church and God blessed the people, and God blessed thousands.
Do you know who that Preacher was? Yes, jbow, the same one who wrote this :
David Wilkerson.
If I am not mistaken there is a second key element to this story that you told.
If I am not mistaken, one of those gang leaders became a very famous preacher, in his own right-Louis Paulau (sp)
I think you may be thinking of Nicky Cruz. He is the founder of Nicky Cruz Outreach, which is a program that helps teenagers with troubled lives. The program has branches in the United States, Latin America, and Europe. Nicky Cruz is also the founder of halfway houses which help in the rehabilitation of drug addicts.
If I'm not mistaken Louis Palau first heard Billy Graham on a radio broadcast in 1950, and drew inspiration from him. He later worked for Graham as a Spanish translator and as an evangelist.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 10:16:15 AM
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patorebel_lady,
Thank you. I believe you are right. I have heard of both of them. I am just a little more familiar with Palau than Cruz.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 10:20:34 AM
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I use to have a crush on Nicky Cruz. I like strong men. 
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 11:43:26 AM
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I have felt since this race for the white house started that if Obama got elected then change would come, change for the worse, and quickly. I myself have spent the last year or so wandering and not seeking God. Recently some painful events shifted my focus back to Jesus and now I am trying to grow stronger in Him. I believe He let me go through those hard times so I would see my need to become rooted in Him before all hell breaks loose-and it will. My mom and I have talked about how our nation has become like the Israelites when they demanded a king and got Saul. We got Obama but he'll never be my savior. We already have our King. Sit tight people, we already know the good guy wins. 
Good post and testimony, thank you!!
Yes, we know who wins, but far too many don't know how or that they have a part to play too and are not prepared for what is coming:
"Isaiah 60:1&2 says, "Arise and shine for thy light is come and the glory of the Lord has risen upon thee. For behold the darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness the people. But the Lord shall arise upon thee and His glory shall be seen upon thee."
Darkness is on every hand. Darkness has risen. The Drug problem is worse than it's ever been in this Country."
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Whether or not we are headed for dark days ahead may be debateable. There are good economic signs mixed in with very dire economic signs. What is not debataable is that we are in very rough economic times, not only in America, but throughout the world. These rough economic times may very well have started more than eight years ago and have yet to fully run their course.
If we are headed for rough times, just what is so wrong with being prepared, as much as possible, for the worse?
Flat out denying that gloom and doom may be around the corned does absolutely nothing to help one prepare for them if and when they do come.
AND much more:
We are now in 2008; these things were spoken in 1986 by my preacher. and I wrote them in my blog in 1995.
"I want you to know, 'darkness shall cover the earth and gross darkness.' But the Bible says this to me---that the Prophetic word came to the Prophet Isaiah. He said, Arise. Awake and Arise. 'Arise and shine, for the light has come and the Glory of the Lord has risen upon thee.'
God is opening the eyes of the Church. He's opening the eyes of His people. He's causing illumination. Light brings revelation.
Light brings revelation.
Revelation without expression brings frustration.
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..? Light brings revelation!
You know people arise, but they're not awake.
They arise, and they get up; but they're not awake, they're eyes are not open. There's no revelation; there's no divine revelation of understanding:
What is God doing today?
Where's the Church today?
Where we going?
Where is the revelation of God's people to know where the Church is going? If we don't know where the Church is going, nobody else does!! Nobody knows where the Church is going, if the Church doesn't know where it's going!!
The nation is at a most critical place that it's been, in a long time.
People, saints of God, listen to me: The Church has never been where it is right this very hour. We're faced with something that's so
. awesome. We're faced with God awaking in us; and we're coming out of the trances; And God is now coming and opening our eyes, and He's giving us revelation.
We just read Isaiah 60:1&2, now lets look at verses 3&4:
"The Gentiles shall come to your light, And kings to the brightness of your rising. Lift up your eyes all around, and see: They all gather together, they come to you; Your sons shall come from afar, And your daughters shall be nursed at your side." (Note: refer. sons & daughters, see Malachi 4:6)
What strong prophetic words!!
God said, the Gentiles, and the kings, shall come and see the brightness of your rising. And your sons; who are afar; and daughters too!!
Lift up your eyes round about, and see; All they gather themselves and see. "
This came in an email, out of the blue, early 1995 when I first started to use the computer and inner net; it was for than and even more so for today and the days ahead:
Time To Step Out
This is a new beginning, a new season, for the old things have passed away. I have closed many doors, and for some this has been a hard time. There will be much activity in the days ahead. Keep your spiritual shoes on, for the journey will be tough. There are many obstacles along the way. There will be many along the way who will try to persuade you to go in one direction and then go another direction. Beware and be careful.
Do not look back at the way things used to be. For you have not gone this way before and it will seem strange and unfamiliar. At times you will feel like an alien, but know thhat I am leading you. I will guide you through the highways and byways. So be brave, be strong and be ready.
I am clearing the way before you, I will make the crooked paths straight. I will keep you from stumbling and I will light your way. Step out and step into the prosperity that lies ahead. For those who have allowed Me to to mold them in the fire are about to receive great wealth for My kingdom purposes. I have prepared you to work in the harvest fields. The harvest is ready and you will bear much fruit for My kingdom. On these special ones I am increasing the anointing in this hour. You need the anointing to strengthen you for the journey and the work that lies ahead. The anointing will teach you everything you need to know.
It is time! It is time! It is time! Stand in your place! Be ready and pay attention to My Word. This is a critical time and you must stay close to Me. Keep your spiritual eyes open. Keep your spiritual ears tuned to My voice. Keep your heart soft. I am breathing new life into you now to revive your dry bones, and to give you new vitality and a new focus. Watch! Wait! Pray! These are the keys to transition into your destiny.
Allow these words to penetrate into your very souls, for they are life!
You O Lord, are a shield for me, my glory and the lifter of my head. Psalm 3:3
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 2:41:02 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I guess it didn't make any difference to you that most of the people in the crowd in Grant Park the night of the election were white. Anyone who doesn't see him as Mr. Wonderful must be white, huh?
And I don't see this as doom and gloom. I am looking up, for my redemption draweth nigh. Well, maybe Jesus won't come in my lifetime but I'll see Him one way or another!
The people in Grant Park have nothing to do with my question.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 2:43:40 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I am truly curious. What does gloom and doom have to do with racism?
It has everything to do with it if all these ministers who are predicting the end of the world are white while all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off. I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 3:35:11 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I guess it didn't make any difference to you that most of the people in the crowd in Grant Park the night of the election were white. Anyone who doesn't see him as Mr. Wonderful must be white, huh?
And I don't see this as doom and gloom. I am looking up, for my redemption draweth nigh. Well, maybe Jesus won't come in my lifetime but I'll see Him one way or another!
The people in Grant Park have nothing to do with my question.
I think they do. Most of them were white and by the looks on their faces I would assume they voted for Obama. You seem to be injecting race into something that really has nothing to do with race.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 3:43:28 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I am truly curious. What does gloom and doom have to do with racism?
It has everything to do with it if all these ministers who are predicting the end of the world are white while all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off. I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
It also could have absolutely nothing to do with it.
It could be simply that white ministers are looking at one aspect of what is going on-the economy.
It could be that black ministers are looking at the fact that we have a black president, for the first time in our history and still haven't come down from their high.
What is racist about that.
Sometimes white are more sensitive to the dangers that lay ahead than blacks, and sometimes blacks are more sensitive.
The simple fact is that we are all in trouble economically right now, regardless of race. Our credit card lifestyle has caught up with us, and there is no good way out of it.
We are all goiong to be affected by it because no politician or individual has a plan to make it all go away over night, without it hurting anyine and everyone..
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 3:46:51 PM
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
I am truly curious. What does gloom and doom have to do with racism?
It has everything to do with it if all these ministers who are predicting the end of the world are white while all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off. I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
I personally believe that the black ministers are separating Obama from their moral values. I have shared emails with a former minister who was my bible teacher and is black. He absolutely refuses to look at the moral values of Barack Obama, other than to say he is "messed up". Then he goes into a diatribe comparing him to Bush and the war which ends up making no sense at all. I believe that black people are just so thrilled that a black man is President that they don't want to face the reality of this man's lack of moral fiber. I think right now they are caught up in the excitement of the moment. And I think many white people are refusing to consider moral values. I heard a young white Christian woman on tv say that although he is "pro-choice" she is comforted by the fact that he wants to find a way to find other alternatives and thus lessen the number of abortions. That's not what he promised Planned Parenthood.
When Obama starts signing executive orders and things start happening for real, they may not feel so elated about their choice. But maybe they will. Who knows?
The truth remains that every person who voted for a man who mocked the Word of God and who believes in killing the unborn up through the ninth month, will have to answer for their vote. Just as we will all have to answer for sins we have committed against God.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/19/2008 5:06:22 PM
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I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
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I am truly curious. What does gloom and doom have to do with racism?
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It has everything to do with it if all these ministers who are predicting the end of the world are white while all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off. I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
1.) I have yet to hear one of these ministers predicting the end of the world.
2.) Which race (s) are/were you asking about? Pretty hard to pin-point what you're calling white when referring to ministers around the world. Here is a listing of some different races:
* Khoid (Hottentot) race
* Sanid (Bushmen) race
* Central Congoid race (Geographic center and origin in the Congo river basin)
* Bambutid race (African Pygmies)
* Aethiopid race (Ethiopia, Somalia)
* Mediterranid race (from Mediterranean areas)
* Dinaric race (predominant in western Balkans [Dinaric Mountains] and northern Italy)
* Alpine race
* Ladogan race (named after Lake Ladoga; indigenous to Russia; includes Lappish subrace of arctic Europe)
* Nordish or Northern European race
* Armenid race (Armenia, Syria, Lebanon and northern Iraq)
* Turanid race (Kazakhstan, Hungary and Turkey)
* Irano-Afghan race (Iran and Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey)
* Indic or Nordindid race (Pakistan and northern India)
* Dravidic race (India, Bangladesh and Sri Lanka)
* Veddoid race (remnant Australoid population in central and southern India) Melanesian race (New Guinea, Papua, Solomon Islands)
* Australian-Tasmanian race (Australian Aborigines)
* Northeast Asian or Northern Mogoloid race (China, Manchuria, Korea and Japan)
* Southeast Asian or Southern Mongoloid race (China, Indochina, Thailand, Myanmar [Burma], Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines)
* Micronesian-Polynesian race
* Ainuid race (remnants of aboriginal population in northern Japan)
* Tungid race (Mongolia and Siberia, Eskimos)
* Amerindian race (American Indians)
Or how about this:
White people is a term which is usually used to refer to human beings characterized, at least in part, by the light pigmentation of their skin. It often refers narrowly to people claiming ancestry exclusively from Europe. A broadly corresponding concept was the Caucasian race. Caucasoid people from the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Central and South Asia may also be considered "white."
Rather than a straightforward description of skin color, the term white functions as a color terminology for race. Various conceptions of whiteness have had implications in terms of national identity, consanguinity, public policy, religion, population statistics, racial segregation/affirmative action, eugenics, racial marginalization and racial quotas. The concept has been applied with varying degrees of formality and internal consistency in disciplines including: sociology, politics, genetics, biology, medicine, biomedicine, language, culture, and law.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 8:32:54 AM
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all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off.
This is very false. Not all "black people" voted for Obama. Many voted "against him" because of his morals. The black ministers I know are more concerned with pleasing God rather than man.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 10:43:23 AM
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all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off.
This is very false. Not all "black people" voted for Obama. Many voted "against him" because of his morals. The black ministers I know are more concerned with pleasing God rather than man.
Indeed this is what I've seen too.
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I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
In simple terms, if you are still questioning if any "Black" ministers and teachers are speaking these same things, yes they are --- men of God all over the world are --- color/race have nothing to do with it.!!
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 12:58:44 PM
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all the black ministers are celebrating their tails off.
This is very false. Not all "black people" voted for Obama. Many voted "against him" because of his morals. The black ministers I know are more concerned with pleasing God rather than man.
Indeed this is what I've seen too.
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I simply wanted to know the race of these people. I still do, since no one has answered me.
In simple terms, if you are still questioning if any "Black" ministers and teachers are speaking these same things, yes they are --- men of God all over the world are --- color/race have nothing to do with it.!!
Okay. So name some.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 3:13:57 PM
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Okay. So name some.
Dr Melvin Marriner, Pastor Milton Miskel,:Pastor Mark Samuell
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 4:32:00 PM
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Okay. So name some.
Dr Melvin Marriner, Pastor Milton Miskel,:Pastor Mark Samuell
Who are these obscure folks? Do you really think they represent the black community at large? And from what I saw, Pastor Samuel is a white dude.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/20/2008 5:33:43 PM
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Okay. So name some.
Dr Melvin Marriner, Pastor Milton Miskel,:Pastor Mark Samuell
Who are these obscure folks? Do you really think they represent the black community at large? And from what I saw, Pastor Samuel is a white dude.
Q. Who are these obscure folks?
A. No one is obscure in God's family.
Q. Do you really think they represent the black community at large?
A. NO, they represent God's community at large no matter what color/race.
C. And from what I saw, Pastor Samuel is a white dude.
A. Better get your eyes checked or find the correct Pastor Mark Samuel.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/21/2008 9:13:29 PM
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That's ok, I understand about being sick.  Yeah, it is strange when folks hear the same things from God. But that' how He works, He sends out the messages to His kids, like He did in Acts when He warned the discipes of a famine.
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!!
And yet Added to this it's even wilder when we hear conformation and variation to things we have heard and/or even shared ourselves in the past; it seems to all be coming together like puzzle pieces in making a picture for our understanding.
I'm sorry, I've been pretty sick for well over a week, still am, but I really wanted to a least share the following with you:
This first one my dh got in an email from a friend of ours:
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Ask Pat if she is aware of this web site. Considering the "unusual" fires in Cal. I'm thinking this site may be on target.
Here
And this one I got a card with my monthly news letter that read:
The Next Revival
In this series, CHARLES SIMPSON issues a prophetic vision and call for the Church to connect with the Lord and His harvest field. He takes a fresh look at Jesus and Isaiah (focusing on Isaiah 58-61, as well as Luke 4) as Jesus declares His mission. Just like Jesus,we need to receive the anointing of the Lord and the revelation of His purpose in order to fulfill His call. As we look to Jesus, we can see more clearly what God has saved us FROM, and what He has saved us FOR.
dh downloaded this one for me from
HERE
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/21/2008 9:17:10 PM
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Oh, brother!! Yeah, that's it. We're all just making this stuff up, thousands and thousands of Christians across the US are making up the SAME things at the same time. In fact, it's actually Bush trying to do a last pitch effort to destroy the dems by sending out soundwaves to only certain people who have a small micro chip in the back of their necks. He's telling them, Don't truuuussstt Obama!! Don't trussstt Obama!! That's it. Believe it or not, God DOES talk to His people. I refuse to get into a silly game of race when that's not what this thread is about. If you want to think we are just a bunch of KKK freaks, fine, whatever. I KNOW what God told me and believe it or not, it matches what God is telling others. You don't believe it, fine. Whatever.
Let me add one more thing: Even BEFORE the elections, many christians had on their hearts, get ready, get ready, get ready. Something big was coming. YEah, I'm sure it was only the whites who had this too. 
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It's pretty wild when I keep hearing the same things repeated at the same time in one day from people all over the United States. It would be one thing if folks repeated this stuff over a time period, but when it all comes in at one time, then that's God moving!!! As you had said above and I'm going to repeat it b/c my friend heard it at her meeting and God is also confirming it on my heart:
kim
I'm truly curious. All of these doom and gloom folks don't happen to be white, do they?
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/21/2008 9:20:41 PM
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Here's the difference between what you are saying and what we are saying. We're not going by the signs of the economy, we're going by what God is telling us. Big difference. Jesus said My sheep will hear my voice. We're simply listening to the voice of the shephard.
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Whether or not we are headed for dark days ahead may be debateable. There are good economic signs mixed in with very dire economic signs. What is not debataable is that we are in very rough economic times, not only in America, but throughout the world. These rough economic times may very well have started more than eight years ago and have yet to fully run their course.
If we are headed for rough times, just what is so wrong with being prepared, as much as possible, for the worse?
Flat out denying that gloom and doom may be around the corned does absolutely nothing to help one prepare for them if and when they do come.
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RE: Change is Coming??? (Based on a "sermon" ... - 11/22/2008 6:08:53 PM
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Let me add one more thing: Even BEFORE the elections, many christians had on their hearts, get ready, get ready, get ready. Something big was coming.
Yeah, I heard thousands of Christians saying those exact words back in August about the revival in Lakeland with Todd Bentley
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and then it all went to H-E-Double Hockey Sticks!
Guess they misunderstood what God was really trying to tell them...
Something big was coming...a big fat false revival!!!
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"...And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes...no more death, sorrow, nor crying."
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