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Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 11:25:40 AM
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Wonder if we'll see him on TBN soon.
Gotta admit, he makes about as much sense as most of the other WoF "superstars"!
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 11:52:26 AM
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He already has all the moves.
We really need to pray for this babe.
He will go down the false prophet road if we don't pray for him.
I'm thinking of another who started out this way and exposed
himself later in life how he knew from the git go how to manipulate
church people and taught others how to do it too. But, I can't
remember his name. Perhaps I'll find the youtube on him and
we can compare.
He would be a big fund raiser for TBN if they hear about him.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 12:12:37 PM
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"Praise the Lord and pass the PAMPERS!"
It just hit me...He reminds me of a baby Rod Parsley!
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 12:17:49 PM
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"Praise the Lord and pass the PAMPERS!"
It just hit me...He reminds me of a baby Rod Parsley!
ROFL.............................
Must be what he sees on mommies tv.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 12:19:21 PM
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If you’re going to preach immature doctrine you might also want to look the part as well. The “message” you’ll hear below makes about as much sense to us as that of most of today’s seeker-friendly movements, whether they be Purpose Driven, Progressive and Emerging or Word Faith.
A lot to be said there.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/9/2008 7:49:21 PM
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Wow! they really start them young!
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/10/2008 12:04:57 PM
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Interesting how he lets both sides of the congregation 'have' it. He even
removes the mike from his mouth while walking from one side to the other. Monkey see.........
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 5:18:36 AM
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Shall I mention that Jesus said we need to be childlike?
Come on, people... this is a KID. A Toddler got on stage and started doing what he sees Daddy doing. In most places, that's considered "cute" and "innocent". But for some inexplicable reason we feel a need to degrade this as a WoF-type mockery? I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too. "Let the little children come unto me and do not forbid them"-- Jesus.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 9:08:27 AM
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Shall I mention that Jesus said we need to be childlike?
Come on, people... this is a KID. A Toddler got on stage and started doing what he sees Daddy doing. In most places, that's considered "cute" and "innocent". But for some inexplicable reason we feel a need to degrade this as a WoF-type mockery? I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too. "Let the little children come unto me and do not forbid them"-- Jesus.
Adam
Did you have the volume off when you watched the clip?
The people in that church were reacting and taking it as a move of God.
And did you watch the other clips? Watch them before Conan or John Stewart plaster them all over the screen.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 9:34:17 AM
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Come on, people... this is a KID. A Toddler got on stage and started doing what he sees Daddy doing. In most places, that's considered "cute" and "innocent". But for some inexplicable reason we feel a need to degrade this as a WoF-type mockery? I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too. "Let the little children come unto me and do not forbid them"-- Jesus.
Nobody is criticizing the baby and it certainly is cute but it does show how ridiculous these types of preachers really are.
I'm curious if this was during a service or not (maybe before or after) and what context the baby was presented in. Maybe it was intended to be a moment of levity (it certainly was, regardless of intent) or if the baby was presented as "a move of God". Maybe this child's "sermon" preceded an anti abortion message. Perhaps it was part of a baby talent "competition" (more like a display I imagine).
In any case he (or she) was good, even including the quiet moments before the storm that so many preachers (and other skilled orators) engage in. As well as a "bunny hop" dance. Very intelligent child.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 10:17:23 AM
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Shall I mention that Jesus said we need to be childlike?
Come on, people... this is a KID. A Toddler got on stage and started doing what he sees Daddy doing. In most places, that's considered "cute" and "innocent". But for some inexplicable reason we feel a need to degrade this as a WoF-type mockery? I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too. "Let the little children come unto me and do not forbid them"-- Jesus.
Adam
Did you have the volume off when you watched the clip?
The people in that church were reacting and taking it as a move of God.
And did you watch the other clips? Watch them before Conan or John Stewart plaster them all over the screen.
Yeah, the clip was more disturbing for the crowd reaction than the kid. Although that was kinda creepy in a 'Jesus Camp' kinda way.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 4:00:05 PM
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I don't see any link to this clip you are talking about?
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/11/2008 7:47:25 PM
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I don't see any link to this clip you are talking about?
Rick
To the first clip? It is in the first opening post - the word 'HIM' is a hyperlink.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/12/2008 6:46:41 PM
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I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too.
Gee, I find you cute and hilarious too! But, I don't think G O D found that child cute. Suspicion.....Elvis is in the house!  Sorry, this may be too deep for some of you.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/15/2008 7:44:30 PM
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Its true that kids can be funny and in this situation it would have been funny. But I got the impression that this child was somehow edifying or blessing the congregation with some implied spiritual message.....in that case....toss the kid off the stage.
Is this really what God gave pulpits for? There really is such a thing as dignity and sanctity in a pulpit in rightly proclaiming the gospel and showing oneself as an example to the congregation....but all that gets lost here.
We could laugh but maybe we should cry for ourselves that this is the battle cry of the pulpit against the sins of our nation.....God have mercy on us.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/15/2008 7:50:33 PM
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God have mercy on us.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/24/2008 10:54:51 PM
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Wonder if we'll see him on TBN soon.
Gotta admit, he makes about as much sense as most of the other WoF "superstars"!
the video has a lot of hits on God tube, I was curious? how does one arrive at the conclusion of this child's churches denominational ties? do we know for a fact what denomination this child is in. perhaps this video was shot for entertainment on God tube, and not in a real church service, perhaps he is the child of a pastor, or grandchild, I don't know if that www page was a christian research page or not, but they clearly did not spell out a church association.
why was it lacking?
have noticed charles stanley, hal Lindsey etc on tbn
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/25/2008 8:33:45 AM
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Wonder if we'll see him on TBN soon.
Gotta admit, he makes about as much sense as most of the other WoF "superstars"!
the video has a lot of hits on God tube, I was curious? how does one arrive at the conclusion of this child's churches denominational ties? do we know for a fact what denomination this child is in. perhaps this video was shot for entertainment on God tube, and not in a real church service, perhaps he is the child of a pastor, or grandchild, I don't know if that www page was a christian research page or not, but they clearly did not spell out a church association.
why was it lacking?
have noticed charles stanley, hal Lindsey etc on tbn
The people in that church were reacting and taking it as a move of God.
And you're right - TBN does host Charles Stanley's ministry. One of the VERY few doctrinally sound broadcasts on TBN's airwaves.
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/25/2008 10:39:24 AM
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Wonder if we'll see him on TBN soon.
Gotta admit, he makes about as much sense as most of the other WoF "superstars"!
the video has a lot of hits on God tube, I was curious? how does one arrive at the conclusion of this child's churches denominational ties? do we know for a fact what denomination this child is in. perhaps this video was shot for entertainment on God tube, and not in a real church service, perhaps he is the child of a pastor, or grandchild, I don't know if that www page was a christian research page or not, but they clearly did not spell out a church association.
why was it lacking?
have noticed charles stanley, hal Lindsey etc on tbn
The people in that church were reacting and taking it as a move of God.
And you're right - TBN does host Charles Stanley's ministry. One of the VERY few doctrinally sound broadcasts on TBN's airwaves.
thank you
I noticed that God would have spared Sodom for the sake of a few righteous people, and you state a few doctrinally sound, how many are a few?
with that being said, should God spare TBN?
I think my point has been missed, christian research network has tied this video to a particular denomination, and not provided the proof, I believe this is spinning, or unbalanced, and bias, if not dishonest. (the worlds ways) and perhaps some here have jumped on that bandwagon, or not done there own research, before making a statment.
so I decided to do some research into the video myself.
this is what I find;
the video was posted on God tube by a user called "hestillinme" she is a social worker, probably with children, as she has under her videos, alot of childrens videos, now was this video shot under a prosperity gospel church? I do not think so, as I read one of her comments, posted against the prosperity people, and it apears she may know the child, as she knows the childs grandfather, and older brother, at the end of this post I will quote her post, and you can see she is against the prosperity message, I am not trying to defend the prosperity message, as I do not agree totally with it, I do believe God is my provider, and I know what it is to pray for a meal, and God does provide. my point is we should be honest in what we present as truth, and sometimes we need to do our own research, well we need to always do our own research.
for christian research to present this video as wof or prosperity, shows the extreme people will take to discredit others, and her views seem to be more in line with the views of the original poster, concerning the prosperity people. with that said here is her post on this video and prosperity people. the link to her God tube page
before her quote though again I would ask, where is the proof, from what church this video came, and in requesting that I am not condemining this video, just requesting those that accuse and condemn to present proof of what they state. notice in hestillinme's statement, she says this childs grandfather preaches the truth, and in the same quote, says the prosperity preachers do not know the God she knows, so therfore the child was not preaching to a wof crowd. and trying to represent that it was a wof crowd would be dishonest, not trying to defend a group, just trying to defend "what is truth,"God bless
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Dear Pastoralmusings I agree with you in many respects. We must be careful in what we allow our children to do especially when we call it PREACHING. It is clear to me that this was not only spontaneous in nature but the fact that it has drawn such attention makes me wonder WHY. All I can say is thank God for Devon following his baby brother around with a video camera. I LOVE IT. My heart gets happy every time I see this video. When I need to get pure in heart with God I draw upon this baby and the video tells me to LIGHTEN UP, Don’t Take things so seriously. If you ask me I would say that his grandfather, being a preacher, knows God and preaches His word on a regular bases and if he believed that this was Blasphemous or demeaning in any way to God he of all people would have put an end to it. This video has delighted people to the tune of 2 million on YouTube and over 1 million on GodTube. One thing is for sure I know that the child was imitating a major figure in his little life, as does 99 percent of the rest of the GodTube family AND NOTHING MORE. The other 1 percent need to Lighten Up. On a personal note, I have kept my distance from all of these self righteous self appointed and ordained preacher folks because they claim that they know what is in Gods Will. The only thing I can say is that this baby video makes my soul laugh at a time when sane men and women are leading Gods people DOWN THE WRONG PATH and I know to step aside and watch them fall. They claim that they know God and that we should follow them and no one else. There is a part in the Bible that says that men will claim to know God and He will say I know you NOT. I believe that we are in that period more than at any other period in our lives. All of the prosperity preachers are driving me crazy because the only ones that look prosperous in the congregations are THE PREACHERS and not their members. Furthermore, all they do is ask for more MONEY to build elaborate buildings. Over the past few years I have been running the opposite direction because THEY DO NOT KNOW the God I know. In closing, because of this infant I am ready to hear the Lords Word again and I know that I must be careful in the process. So I draw my attention to the oldest book known to man THE BIBLE and it is MY GUIDANCE. In fact, I do not give to churches anymore, I give to people that NEED. That is my TITHE and OFFERING COMMITMENT TO GOD. If a man wants a bigger building, or fancier car or bigger dog house let him get it from someone that does not know the WILL OF GOD. My opening my ears to hear again is more than all of these self righteous Know it all preachers could accomplish. I agree with you that this is a cute video NOTHING MORE. And people should stop JUDGING because of it. This is a video that tells me that God Knows what He is doing and He needs no permission from any of us to dictate which heart is to be touched by it. God can do what He wants the way He wants. And I think that He is working, albeit funny through this video. God Bless You for your thoughtful comments, He Still In Me
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/25/2008 11:15:18 AM
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ORIGINAL: FurGodWurLivin
Shall I mention that Jesus said we need to be childlike?
Come on, people... this is a KID. A Toddler got on stage and started doing what he sees Daddy doing. In most places, that's considered "cute" and "innocent". But for some inexplicable reason we feel a need to degrade this as a WoF-type mockery? I find it cute and hilarious, personally... and I have a sneaking suspicion that God did too. "Let the little children come unto me and do not forbid them"-- Jesus.
Adam
is the reason really inexplicable?
Luke 18:16
But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God. 17
Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
RED lettered words, what did Jesus mean, here?
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/25/2008 7:10:29 PM
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genna,
So are you saying that these children were all acting under a genuine movement of the Holy Spirit?
And are you saying that we (Christians) are to remain silent and excuse false teachers and false prophets, merchandisers of men because said broadcasting network airs a few doctrinally sound ministries?
Do you take the same approach when dealing with cancer? Or with sin and dangerous things?
I believe the simple point of the OP (and he/she can please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is a bit disheartening to see some people accept anything and everything from God just because it is done within the four walls of self-professing church.
I remember the words of my old mentor... when looking for Satan and the demonic.. start at the pulpit.
May God have mercy on us..
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/25/2008 8:47:14 PM
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hey on saturday mornings Bible Man, friends and heros, are on... can't knock down bible man....! 
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/26/2008 2:54:31 AM
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genna,
So are you saying that these children were all acting under a genuine movement of the Holy Spirit?
of course not, I believe the child was imitating his grandfather, and probably not in an actual church meeting, perhaps he shall be a future preacher
And are you saying that we (Christians) are to remain silent and excuse false teachers and false prophets, merchandisers of men because said broadcasting network airs a few doctrinally sound ministries?
perhaps we need to pay attention to the doctrine of Jesus, and loose the divisions created by our doctrines
Do you take the same approach when dealing with cancer? Or with sin and dangerous things?
I cast them out, in the name of Jesus
I believe the simple point of the OP (and he/she can please correct me if I am wrong) is that it is a bit disheartening to see some people accept anything and everything from God just because it is done within the four walls of self-professing church.
looked to me like the op was stating this child may belong to a certain denomination, or tbn, when in fact the person who put the video on God tube, is anti tbn, perhaps the child's grandfather is Baptist, or Methodist, I'm just saying as Christians we need to guard our tongues, and be careful of what we say, we could be spreading discord and lies. and I agree, just because it is within the 4 walls of the church does not make it of God, any more than a www statement from Christian research makes it of God, that is why I did investigation, and posted here. is this thread of God? where ever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am. would God condemn or criticize this child? would God say this child was tbn? would God condemn tbn?
I remember the words of my old mentor... when looking for Satan and the demonic.. start at the pulpit.
old mentor?
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RE: Future TBN Superstar? - 10/26/2008 9:36:28 AM
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Again, you're letting the use of the term 'TBN' in the OP to miss the point. We have been commenting on how the people in the audience were reacting as if the babbling 12 month old was manifesting a genuine move of the Holy Spirit.
You're saying you do not believe that to have been the case - we agree - but the congregation seems to disagree. THAT is what was being discussed. Not TBN, per se.. for we already have a one-stop thread for that discussion.
My old mentor? Yes, he passed to be with the Lord a few years ago.
I am anti-false teachings and the fleecing of men all under the guise of Christianity.
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