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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:24:58 PM
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Honestly, I'm looking for bible references that actually clearly says that Jesus is in fact God. I at the moment do not believe Jesus is exactly God, that they are the exact same person. That's why I think that Jesus does not know the day. Although I can not argue Jesus didn't know because he was in human form.
Hey Mike,
Don't be ashamed that you have not yet seen Jesus as fully God. For everyone, this Christianity is a journey. I'm sure, as long as you are seeking with a good heart, God will reveal this to you in His time. I remember when I wasn't sure of this. I wasn't saying He wasn't God in the flesh, but I wanted to see it. When I started to see this truth I couldn't deny it, and was so happy it was true, and it was very exciting.
It's not written that plainly, yet it is plainly there! With the eye of faith, it becomes clear that all three members of the God head are all fully God!
Here's a couple of scriptures for you, but just read the word with an honest heart and ask God to let you see.
John 10: 30
I and my Father are one.
John 8: 58
Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
1 Timothy 3: 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2: 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
(Matthew 1:22)
All this took place to fulfil what the Lord had said through the prophet: "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" - which means, "God with us."
John 14: 8-9
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it be sufficient for us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?
God bless you brother,
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:27:04 PM
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Common sense can change from generation to generation. I was talking about the Common sense as in Logic which never changes.
1+1 will always be 2
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Diolectic, your points fit well within our logic system; Our logic system is the same as everyone's through out time.
1+1 will always be 2
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In reality, we need chapter and verse because things don't always add up as we think they should. Ok, I don't know of any, therefore if Jesus still does not know:
1: He is not one with the Father, not unified with the trinity.
2: There is disunity in the trinity if He is of the trinity.
3: If He is of the trinity, then the Trinity does not have the same mind, or knows everything that each other knows.
4: Jesus is not God, because He doesn't know, He is not fully God.
5: Jesus is not omniscient.
6: Jesus is not only limited in His flesh but still is being glorified.
7: What is the reason that HE still doesn't know now.
This logice is universal through out time and history, it will not & does not change.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:31:05 PM
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I see the point you are trying to say here brother, but it might just be that in the flesh, Jesus 'having no advantages' over men, was indeed limited, until he was received back in glory.
Blessings
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:31:22 PM
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Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you, but we know this HOW? (i.e., book, chapter, verse?) Maybe Christ did know, but God in His wisdom requested men not to know. If Jesus had said, 'oh don't worry, you got over 2000 years before you need to be worrying about that'! - I don't think men would live as urgently.
In Matt 24 it says that no man, nor the angels know, but doesn't say Jesus didn't know.
It does however say "but My Father only" If Jesus still does not know, He and His Father are not one as He says they are.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:38:33 PM
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I at the moment do not believe Jesus is exactly God, that they are the exact same person. The word "God" referes to the whole Godhead.
The Father is God just as Jesus is God, and so as the Holy Spirit.
You are correct that Jesus is not the "exact same person" as the Father, but He is just as much God as the rest of the two are in the Godhead.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 3:40:05 PM
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Well put!
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 9:59:15 PM
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I at the moment do not believe Jesus is exactly God, that they are the exact same person. The word "God" referes to the whole Godhead.
The Father is God just as Jesus is God, and so as the Holy Spirit.
You are correct that Jesus is not the "exact same person" as the Father, but He is just as much God as the rest of the two are in the Godhead.
I totally agree with that.
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If Jesus still does not know, He and His Father are not one as He says they are.
I disagree, because when Jesus said that he and the Father are one, I finding any biblical information that might argue the fact that he didn't mean it as one as a team. I haven't find anything (yet) to show that he actually meant one literally.
John 14: 8-9
Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it be sufficient for us. 9Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? <-- is the most convincing however.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/4/2008 10:17:42 PM
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Shalom, Diolectic.
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Shalom, Diolectic.quote:
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It mentions in Matthew that nobody but the father knows when the Day of the Lord is. Not even the son (Jesus) Can somebody just explain to me why wouldn't Jesus know when that day would be. In the flesh of His Earthly Ministry He did not know, but HE certainly does now.
Jesus at the Right Hand of the Father does know when Day of the Lord is.
Not that I'm necessarily disagreeing with you, but we know this HOW? (i.e., book, chapter, verse?)
1: He wouldn't be one with the Father, be unified with the trinity if Jesus doesn't know.
2: There would be a disunity in the trinity if Jesus did not yet know.
3: The Trinity have the same mind, and knows everything that each other knows.
4: Jesus is God, if He didn't know, He wouldn't be fully God.
5: Jesus wouldn't be omniscient if He didn't know.
6: There is no reason that HE wouldn't know now.
7: Jesus was only limited in His flesh.
As for the "book, chapter, verse", all one needs here is commone sence.
... and a WHOLE lot of theological reasoning! However, what if something turns out to be wrong in the theological "common sense" department?
In the first century church, there was much debate on the matter of the "Trinity." The debates continued until the Roman Catholic Church (RCC) said "enough is enough," made a unilateral ruling on the subject, and outlawed any further debate. They killed all who opposed them and declared anyone who would try to bring up the matter again a "heretic."
Most of today's Protestant groups have come out of (protested against) the RCC and have not made that unilateral decision a matter of contention.
I'm not going to pursue the issue myself, but ... WHAT IF? Like a house of cards when a key supportive card is removed, it would take so little to cause the "house of cards" of theological arguments to collapse!
We really need to formulate our thoughts on "book, chapter, and verse!" All else is susceptible to human error.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/5/2008 7:54:04 AM
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I was talking about the Common sense as in Logic which never changes.
1+1 will always be 2
Our logic system is the same as everyone's through out time.
1+1 will always be 2
This logice is universal through out time and history, it will not & does not change. Our logic system was formulated by Aristotle, a polytheistic pagan. His logic system is called deductive logic. There is also inductive logic which goes along with deductive quite nicely. These work very well for science and math, but are very lacking in theology.
Some have dubbed the biblical logic "adductive" and in it 1 + 1 does not necessarily equal 2.
Mat 19:5 and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
Mat 19:6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Joh 10:30 I and the Father are one."
So trying to apply deductive logic to describe the attributes of God such as His omniscience is problematic.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/5/2008 10:26:06 AM
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I was talking about the Common sense as in Logic which never changes.
1+1 will always be 2
Our logic system is the same as everyone's through out time.
1+1 will always be 2
This logice is universal through out time and history, it will not & does not change. Our logic system was formulated by Aristotle, a polytheistic pagan.
No, what I'm talking about was there before God formed the earth. It's called reality.
I'm not talking about something that was made up, but the truthful dacts of reality.
Just as East will never meat west & a square can never be a circle at the same time, and * + * will always = **; no one has ever formulated, devised, developed, came up with, or made these truhs.
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His logic system is called deductive logic. There is also inductive logic which goes along with deductive quite nicely. These work very well for science and math, but are very lacking in theology.
Actualy, Aristotle only named these forms of reasoning and logic.
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Some have dubbed the biblical logic "adductive" and in it 1 + 1 does not necessarily equal 2. This is no reality, nor is it real wisdome, 1+1must, by necessity be 2,otherwise it is a lie and unreality.
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Mat 19:5 and said, 'Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh'?
Mat 19:6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate."
Joh 10:30 I and the Father are one." One is not the same as being unified, as these verses are about.
Me and my wife are one as being unified, but still realy two.
Jesus and the Father are unified as one, but, these will always be truly two; Father & Son, husband & wife = one God(head) & one marriage.
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So trying to apply deductive logic to describe the attributes of God such as His omniscience is problematic. It is easily done if you stick to reality as I am talking about.
In addition, when you say "God", are you using the term as it should be used for the Godhead trinity?
For something to be truly unified as God, He must not withhold anything from any of the parts, otherwise, the unity becomes disunity, they would not truly be "one", unifide.
For any of the unified trinity to not know something what the other parts know, He would be inferior to the rest, again, that would be disunity.
If Jesus did not yet know anything, He would be questionably called God & He surly wouldn't be as great as the others.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/5/2008 1:30:20 PM
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Hey guys, me think it's time to agree to disagree, lol
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/6/2008 9:23:10 AM
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I am not a tri-theist. I am a mono-theist. God is ONE (Deut 6). There are not 3 gods.
Do I believe in father, son and spirit? Absolutely. But there is ONLY ONE GOD.
So how do you add that up? You don't. It does not work from our logical framework. But it DOES work from a biblical logical framework. Hebraic logic is definately not linear. It is often circular. It is ALWAYS relational, rarely is it abstract.
Please do not limit God in general and Jesus specifically to your logical understanding by saying things like quote:
For something to be truly unified as God, He must not withhold anything from any of the parts, otherwise, the unity becomes disunity, they would not truly be "one", unifide. Last time I checked, God is not limited in any way, least of all by human understanding. His ways and thoughts are biblically listed as "higher" than our own.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/6/2008 10:39:08 AM
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Hi everyone, I see both points but I always remember the old analogy that people use to try to explain the trinity - water
Ice + steam + water
All different, yet are the same thing.
1+1+1 = 1
Try drinking a cup of steam, or preserving food with water or building an igloo out of steam.
yet all are H2O
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/6/2008 11:10:06 AM
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Hi everyone, I see both points but I always remember the old analogy that people use to try to explain the trinity - water
Ice + steam + water
All different, yet are the same thing.
1+1+1 = 1
Try drinking a cup of steam, or preserving food with water or building an igloo out of steam.
yet all are H2O It is not 1+1+1 = 1
It is:
1 x 1 x 1 = 1
Or
Ice x steam x water = H2O
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/6/2008 11:43:46 AM
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I am not a tri-theist. I am a mono-theist. God is ONE (Deut 6). There are not 3 gods.
Do I believe in father, son and spirit? Absolutely. But there is ONLY ONE GOD.
So how do you add that up? You don't. Yes, we must.
As I said, the term "God" refers to the whole trinity, the Godhead.
The Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God.
One Godhead, or "God".
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It does not work from our logical framework. But it DOES work from a biblical logical framework. It works in both frameworks if you understand correctly.
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Hebraic logic is definitely not linear. It is often circular. It is ALWAYS relation
al, rarely is it abstract.
Please do not limit God in general and Jesus specifically to your logical understanding by saying things like quote:
For something to be truly unified as God, He must not withhold anything from any of the parts, otherwise, the unity becomes disunity, they would not truly be "one", unified. Last time I checked, God is not limited in any way, least of all by human understanding. Sure He is.
God is limited by being unable to make a square circle, a bright darkness, even a pregnant
-barren womb, all these are logical impossibilities.
God can not make illogic to be logical; He can not make a lie to be truth, unreality to be real...ect...
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His ways and thoughts are biblically listed as "higher" than our own. Don't take this concept of Scripture out of context.
Isa 55:8-9
This is connected with the subject of sin and the pardon and forgiveness of the wicked ways and thoughts of the wicked in contrast to God's; and the sense must be that the plans and purposes of God in regard to forgiveness are as far above those of people as the heavens are higher than the earth.
One must always keep concepts of scripture in context!
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/13/2008 1:14:59 PM
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Sir, you are limiting God by your understanding.
Who said He cannot make a square circle? He can do ANYTHING. quote:
One must always keep concepts of scripture in context! True. BUT, we must not subject scripture of God to our own understanding of what we think is possible or impossible.
How did God stretch out the day in Joshua 10.13 while everywhere else on earth experienced a regular day and night? Or actually make the sun reverse itself in Isaiah 38.8? There are NO mentions of these events in any other culture, even those only a few hundred miles away.
IMO, you need a bigger God.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/13/2008 10:03:00 PM
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Sir, you are limiting God by your understanding.
Who said He cannot make a square circle? He can do ANYTHING. quote:
One must always keep concepts of scripture in context! True. BUT, we must not subject scripture of God to our own understanding of what we think is possible or impossible.
How did God stretch out the day in Joshua 10.13 while everywhere else on earth experienced a regular day and night? Or actually make the sun reverse itself in Isaiah 38.8? There are NO mentions of these events in any other culture, even those only a few hundred miles away.
IMO, you need a bigger God.
Greetings
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Who said He cannot make a square circle? He can do ANYTHING.
Have you ever heard of a ... round tuit
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 11/13/2008 10:33:10 PM
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In the beginning when God created ...God called the 6 days good; and He forgot to name the 7thday ..perhaps He is getting a little old...
Jesus didn't know when He came.... because God still hasn’t of yet named the 7th as good; and if He did name the 7th day back in Genesis as good.. and didn't rest....then we wouldn't be here today.
That goodness is reserved for the "righteous wrath"... at the end of the age
What? I don't get you?
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/7/2008 5:25:28 PM
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In the beginning when God created ...God called the 6 days good; and He forgot to name the 7thday ..perhaps He is getting a little old...
Jesus didn't know when He came.... because God still hasn’t of yet named the 7th as good; and if He did name the 7th day back in Genesis as good.. and didn't rest....then we wouldn't be here today.
That goodness is reserved for the "righteous wrath"... at the end of the age
What? I don't get you?
Greetings,
26 "And the vision of the evenings and mornings Which was told is true;
Therefore .....seal up the vision,
For it refers to "many days"=(evenings and mornings) ... in the future."
On the big scale the "evening and the morning"... which will be the 7th day, is actually Danels revelation
The evening is the first 3 1/2 years and the morning is the next 3 1/2 years called the great tribulation...
27 And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king's business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/9/2008 9:45:30 PM
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Shalom, LoyalGypsy.
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In the beginning when God created ...God called the 6 days good; and He forgot to name the 7thday ..perhaps He is getting a little old...
Jesus didn't know when He came.... because God still hasn’t of yet named the 7th as good; and if He did name the 7th day back in Genesis as good.. and didn't rest....then we wouldn't be here today.
That goodness is reserved for the "righteous wrath"... at the end of the age
What? I don't get you?
Greetings,
26 "And the vision of the evenings and mornings Which was told is true;
Therefore .....seal up the vision,
For it refers to "many days"=(evenings and mornings) ... in the future."
On the big scale the "evening and the morning"... which will be the 7th day, is actually Danels revelation
The evening is the first 3 1/2 years and the morning is the next 3 1/2 years called the great tribulation...
27 And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king's business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it.
LG
Haven't you ever been taught that it is wrong to mix metaphors? Well, it's also wrong to mix types! That's a GREAT way to mix up yourself and those to whom you repeat your musings. "Evening and morning" are how days are counted in Jewish timekeeping. The Jewish day begins at sundown with the sighting of the first three stars.
It's really kind of absurd to equate evening with the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation and the morning with the last 3 1/2 years. There is no Scriptural basis for doing so, and there is certainly no redeeming value to do so!
Now, I've heard of people equating millennia with the days of tht week/Creation, equating the Millennium to come with the Seventh Day, the Shabbat, but what you're saying is just too weird.
Sorry, my friend, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/11/2008 8:39:13 AM
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Shalom, LoyalGypsy.
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In the beginning when God created ...God called the 6 days good; and He forgot to name the 7thday ..perhaps He is getting a little old...
Jesus didn't know when He came.... because God still hasn’t of yet named the 7th as good; and if He did name the 7th day back in Genesis as good.. and didn't rest....then we wouldn't be here today.
That goodness is reserved for the "righteous wrath"... at the end of the age
What? I don't get you?
Greetings,
26 "And the vision of the evenings and mornings Which was told is true;
Therefore .....seal up the vision,
For it refers to "many days"=(evenings and mornings) ... in the future."
On the big scale the "evening and the morning"... which will be the 7th day, is actually Danels revelation
The evening is the first 3 1/2 years and the morning is the next 3 1/2 years called the great tribulation...
27 And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king's business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it.
LG
Haven't you ever been taught that it is wrong to mix metaphors? Well, it's also wrong to mix types! That's a GREAT way to mix up yourself and those to whom you repeat your musings. "Evening and morning" are how days are counted in Jewish timekeeping. The Jewish day begins at sundown with the sighting of the first three stars.
It's really kind of absurd to equate evening with the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation and the morning with the last 3 1/2 years. There is no Scriptural basis for doing so, and there is certainly no redeeming value to do so!
Now, I've heard of people equating millennia with the days of tht week/Creation, equating the Millennium to come with the Seventh Day, the Shabbat, but what you're saying is just too weird.
Sorry, my friend, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
Retrobyter
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Haven't you ever been taught that it is wrong to mix metaphors?
I have a very good teacher... and the info was very accurate according to the scriptures.
What was wrong?
LG
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/13/2008 12:18:54 AM
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Maybe it is hard to keep track of time in terms of eternity while you dwell on earth? The blink of an eye in Heaven is an entire lifetime down here. Just a thought. Jesus had the knowledge He needed to fulfill his task on earth.
It is believable that He purposely restricted His knowledge of this on earth. After all if we knew when it was going to happen, it would seem more people would "convert" at a time more convenient to them... instead of to please the Lord. The day is not for man to know, and Jesus wouldn't have been able to lie about knowing... so perhaps that has something to do with it. Scripture doesn't tell us why, so we can only infer.
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/25/2008 1:45:02 AM
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Retrobyter
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Shalom, LoyalGypsy.
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Shalom, LoyalGypsy.
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In the beginning when God created ...God called the 6 days good; and He forgot to name the 7thday ..perhaps He is getting a little old...
Jesus didn't know when He came.... because God still hasn’t of yet named the 7th as good; and if He did name the 7th day back in Genesis as good.. and didn't rest....then we wouldn't be here today.
That goodness is reserved for the "righteous wrath"... at the end of the age
What? I don't get you?
Greetings,
26 "And the vision of the evenings and mornings Which was told is true;
Therefore .....seal up the vision,
For it refers to "many days"=(evenings and mornings) ... in the future."
On the big scale the "evening and the morning"... which will be the 7th day, is actually Danels revelation
The evening is the first 3 1/2 years and the morning is the next 3 1/2 years called the great tribulation...
27 And I, Daniel, fainted and was sick for days; afterward I arose and went about the king's business. I was astonished by the vision, but no one understood it.
LG
Haven't you ever been taught that it is wrong to mix metaphors? Well, it's also wrong to mix types! That's a GREAT way to mix up yourself and those to whom you repeat your musings. "Evening and morning" are how days are counted in Jewish timekeeping. The Jewish day begins at sundown with the sighting of the first three stars.
It's really kind of absurd to equate evening with the first 3 1/2 years of the tribulation and the morning with the last 3 1/2 years. There is no Scriptural basis for doing so, and there is certainly no redeeming value to do so!
Now, I've heard of people equating millennia with the days of tht week/Creation, equating the Millennium to come with the Seventh Day, the Shabbat, but what you're saying is just too weird.
Sorry, my friend, but it doesn't make any sense to me.
Retrobyter
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Haven't you ever been taught that it is wrong to mix metaphors?
I have a very good teacher... and the info was very accurate according to the scriptures.
What was wrong?
LG
Here's what was wrong: You mixed types. One type was that a day could be a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. The other type was that the "weeks" of Daniel are seven-year time periods. You (or your teacher) have MIXED them! Now, you're saying that a day could be a "week" and a "week" as one day. That mix has no basis in Scripture and it is SURE to confuse! Understand? That's what was wrong.
Hope this helps in your quest for understanding.
Roy (aka Retrobyter)
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RE: Only God knows that Day? - 12/25/2008 1:39:21 PM
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Seems to me Jesus acted just as any of his Prophets acted. He spoke and did what was told to him by the Father. The father would know everything going on at that present time and would know everything that would happen if his Son did this or Did that according to his will. The Father is aware of all things on earth and in the heavens and can know what ripple would occur by dropping the smallest word into our lifes.
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