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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 4:51:57 PM
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Cloak
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Funny, but the more we become Christlike, the more the world will make fun or find our kindness weird!
Keep doing the right thing and remember that God can see and appreciate you. None of your gracious behaviour is wasted since God sees everything and rewards you.
After all our kindness should be to impress God not man. By knowing that your frustration and bewilderment should vanish right away!
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 4:56:35 PM
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Actually, as much as I truly appreciate chivalry, it, in and of itself, isn't a "Christian" behavior, per se. I know of many non-Christian men who are also chivalrous.
But I do agree that kindness is Christian; in fact, it's a Fruit of Our Lord's Spirit.
It's just that the two aren't necessarily synonymous.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 5:16:31 PM
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Whenever I see a thread with these types of questions I always wonder if there are really that many women today that object to a man doing those nice things like opening doors etc. I guess there must be since it has come up a few times, but I honestly do not know one single woman (married or single) that would object to someone being polite! During the "hey day" or beginning of the "women's movement" I think there was a bit more made of it, but I think they were wrong then and those that act that way now are wrong.
Men, keep opening doors, helping women that you see struggling with bulky or heavy objects and kids. If someone is ungrateful, please forgive them for the sake of the rest of us that truly appreciate it! And yes, I do give a smile and thank you to anyone that does that for me. I also taught my 2 sons to open doors and be polite- to both men and women.
Thank you to all you guys that keep "chivalry" alive.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 5:20:26 PM
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Funny, but the more we become Christlike, the more the world will make fun or find our kindness weird!
I don't think this is an absolute. You may not be headed this direction but the reason I say this is because I see many Christians who actually think to be Christlike you have to be wierd. Yes, our culture will not always understand truth but I don't think you can always say that they will treat Christlikeness as wierd. And if they do it might be a good idea to find out why. There could be a misunderstanding or miscommunication about intentions somewhere.
And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. Luke 2:52
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 6:08:34 PM
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Cloak
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What I meant here is simply Genuine kindness can be mistaken for impure motives!
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 10/16/2008 8:19:14 PM
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Laminin
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All of you ladies posting here must be in a minority. I was raised by my father to open doors for women, to stand aside and allow women to enter buildings and vehicles first, to walk between her and the street while on a sidewalk, to remove my hat while in doors and in the presence of a woman, always pay for the meal whether it's a formal date or not, and so on.
But from my college years on I've been insulted, verbally attacked, accused of acting superior, chauvanistic, unfeeling of her needs to be her own woman and many other things. The least I've ever gotten in recent times is a rude glance and in my entire life I can only remember one time when I was thanked.
That's a shame... sorry to hear that.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 11/5/2008 5:45:16 PM
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Coffee2Go
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Chivalry appears in different ways, no longer in the classical sense since, well, we don't have horses and shining armor anymore. Beyond that, women have fought long and hard to be treated as equals by men. Chivalry, while it reveres women, also reveres women because they are supposed to be the weaker and more gentle sex.
So chivalry has evolved into something else, and I think a more general definition would be heroism mixed with romance. A guy who's willing to drive miles and miles and miles to comfort a girl who recently lost her mother... I consider that chivalry. I bet that happens more frequently than we appreciate too.
Anyway, I think this short film is a good example of romance:
https://spiritclips.com/films/lacachette
Not exactly chivalry, but romance never is always nice to see.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 11/7/2008 10:13:03 AM
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Hello All,
Ok, here is the scoop, I'm not sure if this is the right area to post this query or not, but I'm rolling with it if you all will!
I was out shopping (grumbles) and because it is one of my all time favorite things to do in the whole wide world, I was so very excited (hope your picking up on the sarcasm), I wasn't in the best mood.
Anyway, I was tired of being irritated so as i was entering the store i saw my opportunity, a young lady was trying to get out of the store with some items and kiddo's tagging along so I opened the door for her and the kids and she gave me a look like I just sent in a Airstrike and destroyed her sense of independance!
I told her to have a Fantastic Day and she gave me a half smile and pressed on........So, is Chivalry a Dieing thing in this world or is it a localized thing with certain women? Do women not like it when a man opens a door for them or pulls a chair out to allow them to sit (Especially when they are wearing a dress), or warm the toilet seat for them in the morning? <sigh><smile>
Note: I did think that she may have been having a bad day as well and was just so overwhelmed with joy for that small thing she forgot herself <smile>.
Just Curious, doesn't mean I will stop doing it :P
-Kell
In my dating years, I always held the door open for the ladies I dated. Many of them told me I was being "desperate" for doing such a thing...that logic always confused me.
Anyhow, the problem is hers, not yours. You did the proper gentlemanly(is that a word? LOL) thing. Don't let here rudeness ruin it for you.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 11/7/2008 7:43:01 PM
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To answer the OP no I still practice chivalry. I may not always do it correctly and sometimes forget but I try.
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 11/8/2008 11:55:12 AM
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I try to be as chilvarous as possible...it's fun sometimes being on a college campus...
One time I tried to hold a door for a girl, and she intentionally walked thru a different door...
And another time...(I am a music major, plus a commuter, so I usually have a full bag and at LEAST one instrument) and i tried to hold a door for this other girl...and I failed miserably...she smiled when I apologized for not holding the door....
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RE: Has Chivalry Died? - 11/19/2008 10:08:52 AM
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That was really interesting, Kell!
I could hurt the feminist movement for helping kill it some though!
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