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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/14/2008 1:37:31 PM
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DaveW
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F/A is still an F chord, just inverted. The notes in an F major chord are F, A, & C. In the OLD designation it would be an A minor augmented. A C F instead of A C E. The bass note always named the chord. This was from the figured bass continuo notation of the Baroque era (1600-1759).
In more modern classical terms, it would be what iluvatar said, the first inversion of the F chord. 2nd inversion would have C in the bass.
It has only been in the last several decades that we started listing the bass note seperately from the rest of the chord: F/A. I believe that came in with the rise of Jazz in the 20th century.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/15/2008 5:58:47 PM
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In the OLD designation it would be an A minor augmented. A C F instead of A C E. The bass note always named the chord. This was from the figured bass continuo notation of the Baroque era (1600-1759).
In more modern classical terms, it would be what iluvatar said, the first inversion of the F chord. 2nd inversion would have C in the bass.
It has only been in the last several decades that we started listing the bass note seperately from the rest of the chord: F/A. I believe that came in with the rise of Jazz in the 20th century.
That's so true. And I noticed that it's really only called an F/A chord on guitar tabs. On piano, I've never seen it as F/A.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/16/2008 4:02:36 AM
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Amd also there are chords which a guitarist can't physically play proplerly due to lack of fingers!
So a pianist can play the "whole" chord, whereas a guitarist plays the notes that are possible, and the rest is "implied".
So it's sometimes easier to just name the chord, and add one or two extra notes to imply the chord.
And it also depends on whether the score is written by a guitarist or a keyboardist!
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/17/2008 12:16:45 PM
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i have a fender starcaster, a danelectro, i play guitar, but play bass way more. my bass is a peavey fury but am in the process of looking for a new one cause i have moved up in playing . i amon the youth band at my chirch . i was wondering what you guys thinki should get for my new bass? i have tought my self to play guitar bass and keyboard....hahaha so i don't know what someof the things your saying means lol...thanks everyong!
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/17/2008 8:04:29 PM
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Fender Jazz Bass or Precision Bass. Good all around basses that come in different priced levels.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/17/2008 8:57:51 PM
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i have a fender starcaster, a danelectro, i play guitar, but play bass way more. my bass is a peavey fury but am in the process of looking for a new one cause i have moved up in playing . i amon the youth band at my chirch . i was wondering what you guys thinki should get for my new bass? i have tought my self to play guitar bass and keyboard....hahaha so i don't know what someof the things your saying means lol...thanks everyong!
I've got a Godin Freeway 5 string bass and it's been an awesome instrument for me, studio and stage.
Made in America quality parts and construction, nice wide, solid maple neck, lots of heavy tone.
I paid $381 brand new as it was on clearance. Such a deal.
They do make a 4 string if you're wanting to stick to that many strings.
You should probably go play a few different makes and models and see what your hands and ears like.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/18/2008 8:02:44 AM
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The fender Jazz bass is good. I cannot stand the "P" bass style pickups; had nothing but trouble with them.
I agree with gtrdave above: try out several before buying one. There are short scale, long scale, and extra long scale basses. There are many different types of pickups. You can have active or passive electronics on board. There are 4, 5 and 6 string basses - but to start I would suggest a 4 string.
I have a custom built short scale 4 string that I have been playing constantly for the last 15 years. It has passive electronics with an extra capacitor on the tone knob to get a really dark sound. One Carvin J style pickup.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 11/19/2008 9:29:33 PM
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Hey Bro_Shane! I play bass.
I have a custom built Cirrus 5 string and two amps: Peavey Combo, and SWR Working Man 15. I have an upright for playing Bluegrass and I've always wanted an acoustic bass so my wife surprised me with an Ibanez ABE10E. I like it but I'll probably buy a Gibson if I'm going to use it on the road.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/8/2008 1:52:12 PM
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I have an acoustic guitar, it is blue, it has 5 strings (1 is currently broken) and I have no idea the make and model, only that I got it from a garage sale for about $10.
Obviously, I am a complete beginner and this is my first guitar. 
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/9/2008 1:07:20 AM
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A couple weeks ago, one of my guitar strings broke. When I restrung it, the tension on the string was tighter than the others. No matter how many times I restring it, It always seems to have to stretch too tight in order to get the desired pitch. Does anyone know what the problem is? Am I stringing it wrong?
Newer strings will always wind up tighter since over time strings stretch due to the ongoing tension, temperature variation, some even vary because of other tunings like Open D or Open G... as a habit, if one breaks, change them all, the tone will be consistent and sound great. As a rule of thumb, I change my strings every 7-8 weeks.
I also play Nashville tuning which is a stretch as well(PUN intended)... finding that I will have to have the bridge modified since it falls out of tune so easily because the guitar was intonated to regular Spanish Tuning only. Meaning the tension is different between the two tunings which effects the tone and ability to keep tuned to the proper pitch.
Have a Taylor GC-5, Taylor CE410, 03 American Fat Strat and a PRS Les Paul knock off.... that latter of which was too expensive for the tone I got...play the Strat/PRS thru a Line6 Duo Amp... effects built in to the floorboard....play the acoustics thru a Crate Acoustic Amp...
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/9/2008 8:44:38 AM
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...play the Strat/PRS thru a Line6 Duo Amp... effects built in to the floorboard....play the acoustics thru a Crate Acoustic Amp...
I almost bought a Duoverb a while back. Guitar Center was blowing them out for $250 back in 2003 or '04 and I was on the fence. I liked the stripped-down nature of the amp and it's versatility, but I ultimately went with a then-new Spider II 112 w/ FBV Express due to needing a smaller combo.
I still think I should have bought the Dv too, though, just because of the cheap price.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/11/2008 9:02:58 PM
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I have an Ovation Celebrity Deluxe acoustic/elec, Fender Mustang re-issue bass, Squier VMS jazz bass, Squier telecaster, MarkBass LMII head, Apeg 4x10 cab, and Trace Elliot BLX-80 and my basses have D'Addario heavy gauge strings. As far as pedals...Big Muff Pi, Boss pedal tuner, Boss Chorus pedal, DigiTech multi-effects pedal.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/12/2008 1:20:38 PM
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Dingding.... here's some tips....I taught guitar for a couple of years in Colorado Springs...
1. Fingers: Ouch, it hurts. I remember my first guitar was from Montgomery Wards in 1964 ! Arg, my finders bled.. The strings were a full 1/4 to 1/2 inch off the fretboard. Many players buy inexpensively since they are not sure they will follow through ... regardless, buy a capo... it pulls the strings down close to the fretboard and two things will happen... a. you will gradually build up callouses and b. you will be able to focus on the chords and practice chord switching... It will still hurt, just not as much.
2. The fact that you have got the "F" chord this early is remarkable. It is mostly difficult for the beginner.
3. Stick with chords within the keys...for beginners, start with the following.
Key of C: C, F, G, Am
Key of G: G, C, D, Em
Key of D: D, G, A, Bm
Key of A: A, D, E, the minor here is rough it requires a Bar Chord (F#m, save it for later)
Key of E: E, A B, B7...trusty blues form here...
Note, you can add what is called a 7th to each chord if you'd like. Any chord book will help here with other forms like 7th's, 9ths, sus, dim, aug etc.
Good enough for now... practice switching between these within each key... it will be helpful... eventually, the chord switching will become intuitive... but it requires practice to get there.... just do it.
4. Get an electronic tuner !!! Keep your guitar tuned and change the strings every 6 wks. You will get better results. Plus, as your ear matures, you will be able to put some songs on the CD player and play along as you listen. If the guitar is out of tune, you will not want to play eventually since it will sound awful, and it won't play well with any music you hear or any music partner.
5. Practice everyday.... 1 hour minimum. For now, get the chord patterns, and the switchings, then worry about Bar Chords and theory. Leave these until you get the fundamentals...
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/14/2008 4:54:28 PM
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Dingding, congrats on your first lesson. You must be excited! Something that always helped me with the finger pain if I haven't played in awhile is putting crazy glue on my fingertips. Let it dry first of course.  Someone told me Stevie Ray Vaughn did that because the action on his neck was so high.
I dunno about using crazy glue as a remedy for finger pain, but SRV used it because of nail splits. The use of very heavy gauged strings (up to 0.018 for the high E at one point) in conjunctin with is argessive attack and high action would case his fingernails to acutally split away fro the underlying tissue. He would simply glue his nails back and continue to play.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/14/2008 10:24:28 PM
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Newer strings will always wind up tighter since over time strings stretch due to the ongoing tension, temperature variation, some even vary because of other tunings like Open D or Open G... as a habit, if one breaks, change them all, the tone will be consistent and sound great. As a rule of thumb, I change my strings every 7-8 weeks.
Maybe that's what it was. I've changed my strings since then, and they're looser than that one was, so, i dunno.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/16/2008 6:10:17 PM
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I have a Squire Telecaster with one humbucker and one single coil pickup. No idea what year it is. I hate this guitar.
I am hoping too get this Guitar soon! In Vintage Sunburst of course. Should work fine for me.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/17/2008 8:37:51 AM
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I have a Squire Telecaster with one humbucker and one single coil pickup. No idea what year it is. I hate this guitar.
I am hoping too get this Guitar soon! In Vintage Sunburst of course. Should work fine for me.
Why do you hate your Tele?
And if you're looking for advice, I'd bypass the bolt-neck LP 100 and go for one of the set-neck Epi Les Pauls, like a Studio or higher. The bolt neck Les Pauls are really introductory instruments. Not bad for a first guitar, maybe, but I'd avoid them as a second guitar and especially if you're looking to differentiate even more from your bolt-neck Telecaster.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/17/2008 10:26:01 AM
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I have a Squire Telecaster with one humbucker and one single coil pickup. No idea what year it is. I hate this guitar.
I am hoping too get this Guitar soon! In Vintage Sunburst of course. Should work fine for me.
Dude, i'm playing that guitar at the present. Korean made. Real nice. Sum reviews:
Fret board is smaller, i dunno a starcester, but i touched stratocasters before. In my opinion it's awesome for jazz and accompaniment, not the best possibility for lead playing tough. And it's quite heavy, more than your fender i would guess.
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/17/2008 1:10:30 PM
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I have a Squire Telecaster with one humbucker and one single coil pickup. No idea what year it is. I hate this guitar.
I am hoping too get this Guitar soon! In Vintage Sunburst of course. Should work fine for me.
Dude, i'm playing that guitar at the present. Korean made. Real nice. Sum reviews:
Fret board is smaller, i dunno a starcester, but i touched stratocasters before. In my opinion it's awesome for jazz and accompaniment, not the best possibility for lead playing tough. And it's quite heavy, more than your fender i would guess.
In general, Gibson solid-bodies tend to be heavier than Fenders but there are a few heavy Fenders out there...particularlyif the guitar has an ash body. What is it about your guitar that makes it less suitable for playing lead?
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RE: Who here plays guitar? - 12/17/2008 5:43:50 PM
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Why do you hate your Tele?
Maybe hate is too strong of a word. I dislike my Tele because the fretboard is really small. No my figures are not big. It's just hard for me too play it. The knobs are also loose. I have tried too tighten them, but they just don't stay. But it does kinda have a nice tone. If you can ignore the buzzing.
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And if you're looking for advice, I'd bypass the bolt-neck LP 100 and go for one of the set-neck Epi Les Pauls, like a Studio or higher. The bolt neck Les Pauls are really introductory instruments. Not bad for a first guitar, maybe, but I'd avoid them as a second guitar and especially if you're looking to differentiate even more from your bolt-neck Telecaster.
Thanks!
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i guess it's because that was a new guitar. so i've just took out another dusty guitar, did some tuning and it's a whole lot easier to press the strings. at least i can play C & F key nicely . hehe :) 
so i have got a looooooooooot of work to do... 
