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mandeaux -> Supervisor Confusion (9/29/2008 3:24:34 PM)

I started to post this in career/college, but somehow the nature of this seemed better suited in relationships. I apologize for the length, but felt it better to outline the details to present the picture more clearly.

I have worked in my current (support) position for eight years. I came into this job almost straight out of college. Since then I've matured, my skills have grown, my position was even audited and I was given a promotion and raise--probably the highest this position will ever be able to go. My supervisor (MS) is very good to me as well as my coworkers within our section of the department. MS has often said to me that I was getting too good for this position and that eventually I would and should move on to better things (i.e. administrative). He ends it each time, though, with 'just not yet'. He brags on all of us and says that he has the best support system within the company.

I have applied for a couple of other positions in the past, and was even granted an interview with one of them, all with his knowledge. I'm not sure if I had his approval or not; I didn't sense anything either way from him.

Recently our department office manager approached me (secretly) about an administrative position within our department that is opening up that she felt I would be perfect for. Because of the nature of how the position came about, and a supporting postion under it also being open, she said they had considered restructuring and making the position support, but would advertise as administrative if I chose to apply. I thought on it and after a couple of days said that I would be interested in applying for the position.

The problem lies in the position incumbent. She had once been a part of our section of the department, and after a poor evaluation from our supervisor, was relocated into a previously nonexistent position that seemed almost 'custom made' for her. (Mind you, she was an excellent worker in many respects; however, there were things in her first position that she didn't seem to want to do, and would not do things the way the supervisor wanted them.) This was before there was a change in department heads. MS, as well as a couple of coworkers in our section have been sore with her ever since, claiming she gets paid well for doing 'nothing'. I have since looked into the position responsibilites and it is far from nothing.

I feel that I could do well in the job. I have only been uneasy as to when to broach the subject of applying for this job with my supervisor. Today, though, he made a remark to me that he would be very upset if they chose to even fill the position! So now, my question is, how do I approach this subject with him? Should I even apply? I want to look past my loyalty to him and consider the loyalty and obligations I have to better myself and better things for my family. Not only would it be a leap from support to administrator, but a substantial pay increase and an increase in benefits. I have weighed the pros and cons, and feel ready to move on, but I wonder if the circumstances are too charged to move forward.




hotsaucygma -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/29/2008 3:59:14 PM)

Would the 'new' position be in the same division as your current supervisor? How much impact would he have on your job if you were to get the new position?

Could the person that approached you, or the person that would hire you and you and your current supervisor sit down together and discuss what would be the best move for the company and for you?

Perhaps if all of you sitting down together would not work for any number of reasons, you could talk to the new division and let them know of your interest, then make an appointment with your current supervisor and explain that you understand that he doesn't feel the position should be filled and would like his input into why he feels it doesn't need to be, as well as your interest in the position if indeed it is filled. Tell him you want to be honest with him because you respect him and his prespective/advice and hope he respects you and your work as much and would support you in your moving into another position.

That's about all I can think of that you could do.




deedeeowens -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/29/2008 4:03:16 PM)

Try to look past the temptation of the money and the higher title and ask the Lord where he wants you to be. I work in a Christian school for considerably less money than I could make in a public school, but I have an inner peace that tells me that this is exactly where the Lord wants me to be. It could be that the Lord wants you to be in the other position because they need you there. Then again, it could be that God wants you to stay right where you are. My point is, when you make your decision, don't make it based on money or prestige. Those factors are worldly and could lead you into a position that robs you of your peace.




jaimestarcross -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/29/2008 9:50:49 PM)

I say go for it!

When I wanted to further myself, no one encouraged me
except my mom!

There were jobs I didn't get but at least I went after the opportunities
when they were available and there's a certain satisfaction in just trying
out for a better job/position...at least that's how I felt about it.




rural_gal -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/30/2008 10:08:54 AM)

I would do two things:

First, pray about it. Ask God to reveal His Will to you.

Secondly, (after praying) ask yourself how you will feel if you don't apply for this position and it is filled by another person.

While it may seem "noble" to show loyalty to your current supervisor by not applying for the job, what kind of supervisor uses emotional blackmail tactics like this one has used to get his/her employees to do what they want? (And who would be benefited from this?) Is this supvervisor honoring God by his/her actions?

Pray. Choose God's will over your own. You can't help but succeed, whatever the outcome is.

Take care,
R.G.




laura... -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/30/2008 11:45:01 AM)

Go for the promotion.

Your loyalty should go to the company, your employer, before it goes to a supervisor. The company created the position. They obviously believed it was necessary for the good of their business. Now that it is being vacated they still believe that the position is necessary and in need of being filled. You are obviously qualified to fill it. It would be a benefit to you and your employer.

Go for it.




sisrev -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/30/2008 12:26:16 PM)

^^^What Laura said...you are holding yourself back based on staying in the good graces of your present supervisor. When he says that you should move on, "but not yet", he is not speaking about your lack of readiness, but his reluctance to have to replace you.




shadowspring -> RE: Supervisor Confusion (9/30/2008 3:34:31 PM)

Agree with Laura here too! [:D]




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