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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 10/6/2008 10:36:13 AM
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1love1God1way
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Now, don't you feel edified?
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 10/6/2008 12:47:36 PM
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solarflare
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I think God has missed a few along the way.......I know some people personally who should be struck by lighting. Why is God taking so long?
Hey....how about that scene in Revelation where the martyrs are under the throne of God and asking Him how long He is going to take?
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Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Things are not that clear cut or simple. They just aren't.
I don't think God 'gets even'.....God has a plan....even for mockers.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/1/2008 5:18:29 PM
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Dear Prophet,
I understand your point of wanting to show that God is not mocked. But I also understand the point of many others here who think your method of using fear is not going to bear much fruit.
As others have said, many who mock God live long lives and don't suffer horrible deaths. And many who live godly, faithful lives for Christ suffer horrible, painful deaths as martyrs.
I used to call the approach that you have presented here, "Turn or burn." I suppose it can convict some to repent, but do you think it is the most profitable approach? In other words, what kind of audience do you think will actually read this and turn to Christ? Do you think there are better ways to point people in the direction of God?
Many mockers would only mock more in reading what you have written. Perhaps there is a better way to reach them. What do ya think?
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/8/2008 10:24:54 AM
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GodsMusic
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I don't see it as a neener-neener thing. Thanks prophet. If it can make some people stop mocking God i'm for it.
By scare tactics? Make them scared of God? No thanks.
1love, don't be so set in your ways and narrow minded that you can't see what God has to say about it.
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Col. 1:28 Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
Jude 1:22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
1:23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
LK 3:7 Then said he to the multitude that came forth to be baptized of him, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
LK 12:5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Different strokes for different folks.
One more thing, do you believe God is gonna judge man?
Do you believe in Hell?
What if Hell scares someone? Should you fail to mention Hell to the sinner because it might "scare" him of God?
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/8/2008 10:37:18 AM
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I've often thought of Bon Scott's last recording of the Highway to Hell album. I remember listening to that music as an 18 year old rebellious young man, and let me tell you that that song did in fact influence me in a bad way.
Got saved at 24. I'm 46 now.
His version of the Promised Land was Hell, and he blatantly sang about that fact. So it is ironic that he went tdo meet his Maker while touring with that song.
Prophets message? Don't spurn or take God lightly. Life as well as Death is very serious.
Also, the fear of the Lord is the beginnging of wisdom.
Now, the spam emails are ridiculous. If I get an email that says "Read this ONLY if you Love God" it usually gets deleted unread. Those are red flags of shallowness and silliness.
I don't feel like Prophets message was shallow or silly. It's a warning that you may stand before God quicker than you think. God MAY call your bluff.
I say back off prophet a little.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 1:25:51 PM
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Remember in Acts (sorry you have to look it up, I have stomache flu) when some ruler spoke, and the people shouted this man sounds like a god instead of man. He took pride in that and worms ate him and died. Does it also not say in the word do not be decieved God will not be mocked, watch those who do disapper? These are not quote for quote but good enough. Mocking God all-powerful is a dangerous thing.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 3:14:13 PM
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some ruler spoke, and the people shouted this man sounds like a god instead of man. He took pride in that and worms ate him and died.
And yet we have false teachers in 1 John who were allowed to continue spreading heresies without being smote by God. It's almost as if God doesn't respond the exact same way in every situation. Weird.
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Does it also not say in the word do not be decieved God will not be mocked, watch those who do disapper?
No, it does not. It says that God will not be mocked, but it says nothing about mockers disappearing.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 3:34:47 PM
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And yet we have false teachers in 1 John who were allowed to continue spreading heresies without being smote by God. It's almost as if God doesn't respond the exact same way in every situation. Weird.
Weird? The definition I think of when the word weird is used is: Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange. I would NEVER place God's actions in that class.
God is all wise.
Even I respond to near identical situations differently wholely dependant on the all particulars of each individual circumstance.
Blanket rules are not always the norm.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 3:46:43 PM
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lightshineon
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it does in my bible. sigh will look it up.
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some ruler spoke, and the people shouted this man sounds like a god instead of man. He took pride in that and worms ate him and died.
And yet we have false teachers in 1 John who were allowed to continue spreading heresies without being smote by God. It's almost as if God doesn't respond the exact same way in every situation. Weird.
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Does it also not say in the word do not be decieved God will not be mocked, watch those who do disapper?
No, it does not. It says that God will not be mocked, but it says nothing about mockers disappearing.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 3:52:07 PM
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Weird? The definition I think of when the word weird is used is: Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange. I would NEVER place God's actions in that class.
God is all wise.
And since we are NOT all wise (but sometimes think we are), His actions may appear "weird" to us.
Appearing in a burning bush? Weird.
Walking on water? Unusual.
Writing on a wall? Ok, well, my little cousin does that too, but you see my point.
It's not to say His actions are not correct or all wise, but simply that they defy the norm.
And such, not destroying all mockers? Weird.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 5:13:38 PM
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Weird? The definition I think of when the word weird is used is: Of a strikingly odd or unusual character; strange. I would NEVER place God's actions in that class.
As Ben said.
God dying for me when I was His worst enemy is not normal. When I think about it too long, it sorta wigs me out because of how strange and alien it seems to the world around us. In the same way, God, who is perfect, and who is perfect in power, choosing to let us humans get away with mocking His name astounds me. His mercy is weird, His kindness is weird, His compassion is weird, because it is so far and above everything we could ever express.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 8:35:18 PM
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Yes death does go both ways. Many saints and sinners have both died horrible deaths. The big difference is that the saints are in heaven and the sinners are in hell. People do not need to be made sacred of God they do need to reverence God. What I believe Prophet was saying with his post is that we should not mock or reject Christ because we do not know when or how our lives will end. As for how the people he mentioned died God did not kill them their own words and actions opened the dooray to destruction. Remember that satan is as a roaring lion seeking who he may devour. The word may means permission. For instance when Marylin Monroe rejected Christ and took all those pills she gave satan permission to kill her. As to the disciples they also gave him permission to kill them knowing that by their deaths many more would come to accept Christ and that they would spend eternity in heaven .
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/15/2008 11:40:14 PM
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MrFribbles
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For instance when Marylin Monroe rejected Christ and took all those pills she gave satan permission to kill her.
Satan doesn't need our permission to kill us. He needs God's. Satan can do nothing without God's go-ahead.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/16/2008 5:43:14 PM
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Satan does not seek God's permission to kill us if he needed that he would be on God's payroll. If God gives satan permission to kill us then he would also be giving permission to cripple us, to send disease to us , or poverty. The bible plainly says that God knows the thoughts he thinks of us thoughts of good and not of evil. It also says that all good things come from the father of light. If your son asked for bread would you give him a stone. If we being evil know how to give good gifts how much more will our heavenly father give to us. Our actions have consequences. If you choose to drink and drive you open the door to tragedy, likewise if we choose to obey God we open the door to allow us to be blessed. We have the choice blessing or cursing life or death the choice is ours.
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/16/2008 11:22:49 PM
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MrFribbles
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Satan does not seek God's permission to kill us if he needed that he would be on God's payroll. If God gives satan permission to kill us then he would also be giving permission to cripple us, to send disease to us , or poverty.
How do you reconcile these statements with the story of Job - where we clearly see Satan coming before God, asking permission to afflict Job with disease, poverty and the death of his children? And God grants Satan's request.
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You're a door without a key,
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You've made a holy fool of me,
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RE: Mockers of the Lord- Beware! - 11/16/2008 11:45:57 PM
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GodsMusic
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And since we are NOT all wise (but sometimes think we are), His actions may appear "weird" to us.
Appearing in a burning bush? Weird.
Walking on water? Unusual.
Writing on a wall? Ok, well, my little cousin does that too, but you see my point.
It's not to say His actions are not correct or all wise, but simply that they defy the norm.
And such, not destroying all mockers? Weird.
Right. And I think it's very weird that you would apply any of God's actions as weird.
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