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willfs -> Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 7:20:44 AM)

Okay, forget about the "thangs" because I don't mean I see woman as objects. Focus on the sweet and innocent. I guess I get so blown away by how a woman can have the appearance of being unthreatening. Yet as I get to know her I realize she is not so vulnerable (in a good way). The exterior is soft but there is a very hard interior. Maybe its just apart of the mystery of femininity that I need to embrace.



Prairiehiker -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 9:21:29 AM)

Willfs, buddy, women are weird creatures....just be around us when we're PMSing, and you'd wonder why God created us, lol. We're very colorful...that has something to do with our emotional wiring.

I'm one of those girly girl and most men think I'm helpless when they see me. Just look at one of my thread in He says about being a tomboy. But once they get to know me, oh boy, watch out. I'm sweet as an apply pie, and have a rather flirty demeanor, but you cross me, you'll never know what will happen! ha ha...don't' take that seriously. I'm good, but not innocent good. Just try see me climb...I'm graceful, but I'm still like one of the boys....

But then, there are truly sweet women who are very stable and what you see is what you get. I'm just a bit neurotic....lol...

Think of me (or some of us women) as half redneck, and half southern belle. Or half linebacker and half ballerina. That's who we are.....



Focusing -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 3:28:34 PM)

LOL re the linebacker/ballerina mix!!

Looks are one thing, but it's important to get beyond the appearance. You will be surprised (sometimes pleasantly, sometimes not) at what you find. [;)][:D]



Auben -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 3:32:14 PM)

People in general are more complex then is easy for us to get a handle on. There are many macho men who are very tender inside.

Women tend to be a bit softer because we value relationships and it's easier to keep relationships when you're sweet to people. However, women also hold a great deal of responsibility in their lives and so they must have the ability to take things on and be tough.



ebony101 -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 6:13:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willfs
Yet as I get to know her I realize she is not so vulnerable (in a good way). The exterior is soft but there is a very hard interior.


No longer vulnerable - because as men became less chivalrous, we've had to do so many things for ourselves. I don't think that's a hard interior though, hmmm... maybe... independent.



losgan -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 7:39:08 PM)

I think of it as the opposite from what you said, about a soft exterior and a hard interior.

I loved this book called "Strong Women, Soft Hearts." Inside I am vulnerable, and maybe you can see a little of that in my appearance - but I am a strong woman as well. Not to mention that I've asked God to protect my vulnerability - so if a man can't get through Him ... there will be no getting to me :)



LivingParadox -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/24/2008 8:26:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: losgan

I think of it as the opposite from what you said, about a soft exterior and a hard interior.

I loved this book called "Strong Women, Soft Hearts." Inside I am vulnerable, and maybe you can see a little of that in my appearance - but I am a strong woman as well. Not to mention that I've asked God to protect my vulnerability - so if a man can't get through Him ... there will be no getting to me :)

I like that...


This thread reminded me of a southern term...
STEEL MAGNOLIAS?



ebony101 -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/26/2008 2:44:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: losgan
Inside I am vulnerable,


I think that despite our independent spirit, we are vulnerable. When men hang around us long enough, they eventually figure that out.



car2ner -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/26/2008 7:20:25 AM)

rawr


oops, drat, twisted my little finger typing that, ouchouchouch....



CandaceClaywell -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/26/2008 2:31:42 PM)

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Think of me (or some of us women) as half redneck, and half southern belle. Or half linebacker and half ballerina. That's who we are..

amen sister



raivyne -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/26/2008 5:06:08 PM)

I'm sweet and innocent until i'm backed into a corner... then the term wolverine comes to mind.



splost -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/27/2008 12:08:37 AM)

Hi =)

I am not necessarily offended by your post as I find that you see women as "sweet and innocent" nice. You aren't saying helpless, so I hope no one translates it that way.

I do have a question though. When a lady is angry, do you find that emotion unfeminine, or is the "unfeminineness" how the anger is expressed?

I don't really like being around anyone, male or female, that has a bad temper.

It is hard to hear someones point if a lot of yelling is going on for me. I tend to shy away from people that "blow up" regularly.



Harvie -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/27/2008 2:17:53 AM)

Cats can look fluffy, cute, sweet, cuddly and innocent, too .....

..... but they are smart, have claws, and can be downright scary when they need to be.

(purrrrrr)



losgan -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/27/2008 10:45:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Harvie

Cats can look fluffy, cute, sweet, cuddly and innocent, too .....

..... but they are smart, have claws, and can be downright scary when they need to be.

(purrrrrr)


Ha ha - I think this is the best analogy ever :) I definitely identify with cats.



captainfraulein -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 2:41:33 AM)

I am not an innocent sweet thang. But I get told I am by men who just see me that way. I remember being in the kitchen telling my friend that who died 5 months later. He had cancer. And I was confessing how I am not as sweet and kind as everyone thinks I am. He would have none of it. He really thought that. A very kind gentle man who made a great husband for his wife. I really think he felt that way about most women.

I have a confession...it is a great tool to manipulate men, even when we don't realize it, this program men have inside themselves that believe women are so sweet and need rescuing.

I needed something done at work...from another company. It usually takes 3 days or more...can take weeks. Somebody I knew had made a mistake and would get in trouble who I care for very much...and feel protective of...so I got on the phone and I pleaded to a guy I have never met. I got his name and found out he was the guy to make it happen.

"I really need your help! If you do this, you'll be my hero." Silence then he said to me"Sorry, I am a bit flustered here." He then called back with another guy on the phone. I repeated "if you do this, you'll both be my hero". What usually takes days took merely an HOUR.

It was legal and ethical...but I felt guilty. I found out a secret...guys want to be your hero.

And that makes me less sweet and innocent. It is a handy tool to use but I got so sickened by myself, the next day when I needed another process started, I let somebody else call.

I also wrote an e-mail to the woman I am accountable to so she can admonish me if need be.

But we women are not less any sinful than men are. Realize that.



rgod -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 3:00:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: captainfraulein
But we women are not less any sinful than men are. Realize that.


I agree with this. Actually this is what I was thinking when I originally read this post a few days ago - but I wasn't quite sure how to word it. Women, like men, can be treacherous. In fact, not realizing this might put you in a position that you don't want to be in. Also, it makes you not take certain things seriously (like a woman's anger or when she really means what she says). That can really come back to bite you if you are not careful. You don't have to be frightened of women or see women as these otherworldly sweet beings - we are just people like men. Some are "good", some are not, most are a mixture - but everyone is a sinner.



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 3:14:02 PM)

As a girl, I had a tendency to fall for the sweet guys, which culminated in my marrying one. When he died, and I eventually found myself out trying to date, I learned real quickly that all men are not "sweet." Therefore, necessity forced me to become blunt, hard, and harsh with any potential dates. Again, who taught me that? Men. Who? Okay. Christian men.

When a believing woman finds herself dating professed "Christian" men who have no idea that NO! means NO!, it is a problem. When she learns that an apparent two-armed man really is an octoman, and she has to fight him, slap him, push him -- even in PUBLIC! -- she becomes even more hard.

But that is my experience.

Fortunately, when I started seeing my present husband, I had more lessons to learn. I learned that there actually are men -- believing men -- out there who know that no means no, who will not touch what shouldn't be touched, who are willing to wait for marriage. So I have had to learn to be soft. I have had to learn to be vulnerable. I have had to learn to trust.



PopsiLufsJesus -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 5:16:09 PM)

Abiyah,

Have you ever considered writing as a career?



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 5:18:58 PM)

Aw, Popsi. You're such a sweetheart. [;)]



ebony101 -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 7:24:20 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL:Harvie
Cats can look fluffy, cute, sweet, cuddly and innocent, too .....

..... but they are smart, have claws, and can be downright scary when they need to be.

(purrrrrr)


Straight and to the point. Ouch, those claws can be pretty sharp.

I am woman! Hear me ROAR!!!!!!

[8|]



Grace-N-Mercy -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/28/2008 7:59:41 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willfs

Okay, forget about the "thangs" because I don't mean I see woman as objects. Focus on the sweet and innocent. I guess I get so blown away by how a woman can have the appearance of being unthreatening. Yet as I get to know her I realize she is not so vulnerable (in a good way). The exterior is soft but there is a very hard interior. Maybe its just apart of the mystery of femininity that I need to embrace.


I like that... mystery of feminity. [:D] I guess you could say we're a mixture of both. Actually, I see a lot of women (and men too) who have a tough exterior but who are very soft on the inside. Either way, it's possibly a defense mechanism. There are many of us who have been hurt deeply in the past due to a number of circumstances, making it very difficult to get emotionally close to others. We are either "tough" or "soft" on the outside, but on the inside, we're a mess. If she's opening up to you, that's a good thing. If she's putting up "walls", (is this what you mean by a very hard interior?) show interest in her, be non-threatening, and ask questions while she opens up.



tinydancer2 -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (9/30/2008 6:41:37 PM)

As I am all about politics and economics for a while..hmmm let me capture my woman perspective now..hmmm

Well, I do not see me as sweet or innocent..I do see myself deep passionate person and so very much confortable in my skin, brains and spirit about being me in the age I am as maturing woman and middle age and is so amazing how wonderful to be in this stage in life..being me a Woman, in peace with myself and God and content for real.

I am blow away for sure as many women are and understands what I am talking about here.

[sm=hug.gif] My Sisterhood of women all over the globe hugs to all of you!

And more wonderful is that I still blow away by strong masculinity and the same traits that deeply moves me about males beings, are steadly and still the same..go figure..LOL..still the fighters..


[sm=vikingsmile.gif] Go Warriors!



captainfraulein -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (10/1/2008 10:31:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: AdrianaS


And more wonderful is that I still blow away by strong masculinity and the same traits that deeply moves me about males beings, are steadly and still the same..go figure..LOL..still the fighters..




Probably why I like Anthony Bourdain and Gordon Ramsey so much. sigh. All that masculinity cooking up food in precision style.

nice but evil chef Gordon

smoking hot Anthony



tinydancer2 -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (10/1/2008 1:22:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: captainfraulein

quote:

ORIGINAL: AdrianaS


And more wonderful is that I still blow away by strong masculinity and the same traits that deeply moves me about males beings, are steadly and still the same..go figure..LOL..still the fighters..




Probably why I like Anthony Bourdain and Gordon Ramsey so much. sigh. All that masculinity cooking up food in precision style.

nice but evil chef Gordon

smoking hot Anthony


Oh yeh CF, the individual masculine expressions freely in to play to all to see into cooking experience.

"Cooking is a language through which all the following properties can be expressed: harmony, creativity, beauty, poetry, complexity, magic, humour, provocation, culture." Ferran Adria



Artistic expressions go into play as we may even dance while cooking, it is just beautiful when we are inspired everything blooms even simple activities as natural human need arises tummy is empty roaring complaining to be fed. Cooking is so social, so festive ocasion, friends, family and between couples just very romantic.. its all awesome!

Garou is playing in my mind..as he sings it in 3 languages so naturaly and has a bit "latin" flavor and passion although I do tend for Bossa Nova and Jazz while cooking "Gal/Desafinado"..food and cooking has no borders as its beautyful loving expression and comes in many flavors and melodies.



captainfraulein -> RE: Help: I see woman as sweet, little innocent thangs? (10/4/2008 5:06:12 PM)

I like MacGyver too. [:D]



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