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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/6/2009 11:46:08 AM
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stellaluna
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I personally think "they are edited" isn't a very good justification for anything that happens on the Duggar shows.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/6/2009 11:52:50 PM
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I personally think "they are edited" isn't a very good justification for anything that happens on the Duggar shows.
I agree 100%. We can only go by what we see, not what we think we don't see. Even non reality shows are edited, and people don't expect people to go by what's on the cutting room floor rather than what they saw on the TV.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 7:46:21 AM
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Sideways
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So what did y'all think of the most recently aired episode with the trip to the farm and JD cutting down the tree?
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 9:22:41 AM
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What I remember was safety seems to be a non issue with the Duggars. It didn't seem very wise to have some of the younger kids out there with them cutting that huge tree down. Maybe I am a little sensitive to that because my father-in-law was killed while cutting down a tree.
The farm. I kept wondering where Jordyn was. I don't remember seeing her. I thought it looked rather silly for Michelle to be sitting on Jim Bob's lap in that tiny train, of course had to get in the PDA as well.
I understand trying to show your children that petting a horse is not something to be afraid of and encouraging, one of the Duggar's favorite words, them to face their fears but after awhile you need to back off. I think Jim Bob went a little too far with Jennifer by trying to get her to sit on the horse when she clearly didn't even want to touch the horse. He did the same thing during the last episode when they were dressed up for the play. He kept scaring her. I thought in both instances it was quite telling that she called out for Jill and not her mother when she was afraid.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 11:47:44 AM
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John-David--I think he's a grown man, and responsible to take whatever safety measures he deems necessary. I
It's still the parents' ultimate responsibility to keep the little kids out of the way, though. Those are the parents' kids, not John David's kids.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 12:21:30 PM
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I am not talking about John David and this isn't about a 19 year old working hard. I am talking about the younger kids that were around. There were two of them hanging off the lift while it was going up. They had no business being around the large equipment or when the limbs were being cut. That was no small tree and would have killed anyone of them had it fallen on them.
It doesn't matter how old a person is they need to be cautious and use safety measures. I don't think he was tethered to the machine and could have fallen out of the lift. My father-in-law had his harnesses on but was not hooked to the tree, he didn't think it was necessary for the cut he was making, the tree shook when the limb was cut and he fell 50 feet to his death. A little bit of safety goes a long way.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 2:08:45 PM
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True, John David is a grown man, but even I know enough out cutting down trees to know he was taking some huge chances. My dad was a Park Ranger many years ago, and he would've had a fit if he saw how JD went about it. And kohls is right, the kids should not have been hanging off of a working lift.
Part of being a real grown up is learning how to do thing properly before you go about it. Of course, by that definition, there's quite a lot of people running around who haven't grown up yet. That being said, I really do like JD, and I'd hate for anything to happen to him.
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I thought in both instances it was quite telling that she called out for Jill and not her mother when she was afraid. Really? I didn't hear that. I agree that JB was pushing it with Jennifer beyond what I would deem reasonable.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 3:14:43 PM
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When it is the Duggars they are ALWAYS given the grace point out that this may be in the editing.
I am only talking about when they're trying to explain their convictions or views, not about actions or incidents we see.
If someone is having a tantrum (whether it's Johanna Duggar or Kate Gosselin  ), it's a tantrum. But if someone is asked a question and gives an answer, editing can have a huge impact on how their answer comes across and whether the end result has anything to do with the original intent of their words.
Now, the tree thing, or the horses and bearded Jim Bob, those are either things you're OK with, or you're not. Has nothing to do with editing. I didn't see the horse episode, but I saw Jim Bob trying to reassure his little girl that he was daddy under the beard, and it didn't bother me at all. He pushed a little, but he didn't go on inordinately and he didn't force her to stay in his arms. Little kids around big equipment, not what we would do as a family. Dh is super paranoid about safety, and I'm close behind. But our good friends started their 6 yo on the riding lawnmower this year, and he helps his dad with all their farm work. It's a cultural and personality difference and I don't think it makes them bad or uncaring parents.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 5:24:18 PM
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I don't think it makes them bad or uncaring, I just didn't think it was very wise. They may not have even known the little boys were out there since John David was out there, oh and the camera crew, to keep an eye on them.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 5:45:16 PM
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Really? I didn't hear that. I agree that JB was pushing it with Jennifer beyond what I would deem reasonable.
Yes. I am thinking that Jill must be Jennifer's buddy. I have noticed in three recent episodes where she seems to want Jill. The one when the grandbaby is born Jim Bob was getting ready to take Michelle and Jill to the airport. Jennifer is crying and Michelle goes to kiss her and tell her bye. I thought well how nice to see her crying for her mom. But I watched again and realized that it was Jill she was crying for. Jana had taken her from Jill who was in the van and she was crying reaching for her. When Michelle went to kiss her she was looking around Michelle at Jill and was crying.
When Jim Bob was trying to put her on the horse with Joy Anna and she was upset Joy Anna says to Jim Bob that they should get Jill.
Then when she is crying and so upset with Jim Bob in costume that she practically lunges out of his arms onto the floor laying there screaming asking for Dill, I am pretty sure it wasn't a pickle she was wanting. It is ok to try and reassure your child that it is really you and not some stranger, but when they want away from you as bad as she did that is going too far, you could tell she was very scared.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 10:47:43 PM
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I'm glad to see the buddy system is working.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/7/2009 11:26:32 PM
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Is it possible that a certain young sibling will develop a special affection for an older sibling? My baby girl will sometimes cry for "Wo-ah" when she gets hurt. She is well loved, and knows that he can hug her and kiss her booboo too.
I don't see anything wrong with that.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/8/2009 12:14:39 AM
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The Duggers were all in Pigeon Forge this weekend, lighting the Christmas lights. The cameras were here, and it will show up in an upcoming episode.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/8/2009 10:05:59 AM
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stellaluna
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And yours.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/8/2009 11:22:45 AM
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Sideways
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Assuming your assumption about their family dynamics is the correct assumption. 
I fully agree that we don't see everything, so it's impossible to know how things always work in the Duggar house.
But didn't you yourself, Maggie, comment that it was a little disconcerting that we saw Johannah's buddy, and not her mother, taking care of her when the little girl was crying and vomiting?
I think these children love their parents dearly, but from what I have seen, they have "special" time with their parents, and day to day care from their buddy.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/8/2009 5:22:43 PM
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 Not really sure why there is even much of a discussion around who the littles look to for every day care and comfort. It seems to me that the Duggars are pretty open and honest about the fact that the buddy is the one responsible for the day-to-day care of their younger charge. Children learn to depend on the person who provides for their basic needs on a daily basis and naturally go to that person when they are frightened or sick or upset.
We can disagree on how healthy or appropriate their buddy system is but I don't think there is much room for debate on the attachment issues it raises.
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RE: Duggars getting reality show - 11/9/2009 2:39:55 AM
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It sort of bothered me that Jennifer called for Jill, like she was attached to Jill as she should have been with her mother. I was thinking, though, that when I was little, being the eighth of ten children, if I were upset, I probably would have called for the first caregiver I happened to see, whether it was my mother or not. At least two of my sisters did a lot of taking care of me when I was little, and I remember one of them had a little song she would sing to me to calm me down when I was upset. I loved the song and the sound of her voice when she sang it to me, and I remember it to this day, forty or more years later. But I did love my mother, and I did have a relationship with her.
When Jennifer is grown, she will always have a special love in her heart and memory for Jill, just as I have for my older sisters.
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