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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/27/2008 3:50:12 AM
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Giulia
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Why are they called gay anyway? Gay is what you are when you are joyous. I don't see homosexuals being overly happy or bubbling over with joy. In fact many of them I have met have been nasty and gossipers and miserable at that.
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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/27/2008 8:39:24 AM
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I had our radio station pull all of his music. It's time to stand up for Christ and quit this practice of not standing up for Jesus. It's time to contend for the Faith.
Copyright monies is also an issue. We have one church across the street from home that I observed Wednesday (remember, I am in limbo with my home church because of major issues) and the youth don't care about this -- they say dancing to his music in church is still better than to sing sacred choral music from 300 years ago.
I can promise you there are NO youth out there still dancing to Ray Boltz music . . .
Good grief, it's 2008.
The person running youth ministry at the church said the teen dancers dance to Boltz music still, and they've done it for many years, including recently.
Maybe there are some remixes out there I'm unaware of.  His music is/was difficult enough to listen to (for me, anyway). I can't imagine anyone attempting to dance to it.
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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/27/2008 9:51:52 AM
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humbleinspirit
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It's now time for Boltz to put on that millstone necklace.
We must be careful that, not wanting to judge him, we promote him. Discerning, calling out, condemning his practice of and promotion of Christian homosexuality, condemning his satanic degradation of the name of Jesus.
It's time to judge someone who has traded his soul for his lust, and encourages others to do the same.This is not someone who doesn't know better, he does, and he made a clear choice.
As to his music, "hating even the garment spotted by the flesh". Why would we continue to add to his income and fame when he is actively working against Jesus and promoting doctrines of demons?
Wake up, people. Sure, pray for Ray to repent. But those who hate Jesus and Christians are reveling in Boltz's coming out, and he's leading the parade.
And, I fear, he has lost his soul in the process.
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Now who said anything that he was encrouaging others to do the same?
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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/27/2008 10:29:01 AM
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Maybe there are some remixes out there I'm unaware of. His music is/was difficult enough to listen to (for me, anyway). I can't imagine anyone attempting to dance to it.
Understand, Bobby has to interject that whole "teens dancing in church instead of singing good old choral music" into every thread he participates in. In another thread they were dancing to pop music, now it's Ray Boltz music. If the subject is ever polka or country I'm sure he'll have them dancing to that as well.
Back to the subject: I've been torn on whether or not to throw his music out as well. Ray has apparently been hiding this for years. Does that make the wonderful message in "I Pledge Allegiance To The Lamb" or "Thank You" any less valid because the writer has chosen to participate in sin? Do my sinful actions negate the songs I write.
Likewise, many churches that incorporate "high church" style worship routinely use classical pieces, pieces that were written by composers who were incredible pagans.
I haven't reached a point of decision on whether or not to continue listening to Ray's music (although the fact that I really haven't listened to him in quite some time may make that transition easier)
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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/27/2008 2:02:18 PM
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I had our radio station pull all of his music. It's time to stand up for Christ and quit this practice of not standing up for Jesus. It's time to contend for the Faith.
Copyright monies is also an issue. We have one church across the street from home that I observed Wednesday (remember, I am in limbo with my home church because of major issues) and the youth don't care about this -- they say dancing to his music in church is still better than to sing sacred choral music from 300 years ago.
I can promise you there are NO youth out there still dancing to Ray Boltz music . . .
Good grief, it's 2008.
The person running youth ministry at the church said the teen dancers dance to Boltz music still, and they've done it for many years, including recently.
What a bizarre, counter-cultural, counter-good-taste youth ministry. . .
Definitely not the norm, I promise. I don't even need my degree in youth ministry to tell you that that just aint normal.
I think that depends on what part of the country or what type of church one attends. There are still many, many Boltz fans, young and old.
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RE: pray for Ray Boltz... - 9/28/2008 10:41:08 AM
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I can promise you there are NO youth out there still dancing to Ray Boltz music . .
Assuming of course that there ever were....
+1, tafkam.
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