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todd_t -> An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/12/2008 7:14:55 PM)

Here's a simple question for McCain fans:

If McCain is elected this November (which I think is likely) what are your chief expectations, and goals you would like to see pursued in his administration?

Should he continue the course laid out by the Bush White House, or begin a completely new one?




ManimalX -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/12/2008 7:50:59 PM)

I would like to see McCain elected, and then never hear about or see him again! Not because I don't like him, but because that s the kind of government I desire: one that lets us live our lives.

More realistically, I would like to see:

- Constructionist judges appointed to the courts
- Wasteful spending eradicated
- Comprehensive energy development (oil, nuclear, coal, solar, wind, etc) moving us away from foreign sources
- Strengthened military and willingness to confront injustice with it
- Strong support of Israel including cessation of "land for peace" policies
- Strengthen faith-based community programs




jfwink -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/12/2008 8:10:25 PM)

appoint constructionist judges

if not balance a budget, at least cut spending.

veto card check and the fairness doctrine if congress passes them




ljmac -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 1:18:21 AM)

- Complete the war in Iraq.
- Continue to be agressive tracking down terrorists.
- Restrain spending
- Make federal money normally given to schools available to parents to help their children escape rotten public schools
- Drill our oil out of the ground, build nuclear power plants, persue shale oil
- Reduce business taxes as an incentive to keep jobs in America
- Draw more nations into NATO to protect them from Russia
- Block Democrats attempts to export abortions to poor black and brown people




bzirk -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 2:05:33 AM)

-- Definitely nominating strict constructionist judges.
-- Balancing the budget, which will mean cutting back on spending rather than raising taxes. I hope he really does give us the names of those who love earmarks, but I doubt he will really do that.
-- Coming up with a solid immigration reform that really does make a serious attempt to secure our borders AND holds those employers who cheat responsible.
-- Backing off of the climate change bandwagon -- yes, I would like to see that, but I doubt it will happen.
-- Doing serious work on fixing the social security/medicare mess.
-- Rebuilding the military, and finishing in Iraq -- at least militarily.




ManimalX -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 2:17:43 AM)

bzirk reminded me: Stop giving any credibility to the man-made global warming fairytale!




Quasiblogo -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 10:30:12 AM)

Should he continue the course laid out by the Bush White House, or begin a completely new one?

I like your question. As I thought about it though, it struck me that any president's "course" is spotty at best, because much of what he (maybe "she" some day) does depends on how things go in the Senate and House. A big story for Bush is what he was not able to do due to obstructionist tactics in Congress.

I expect that McCain will indeed get more done because he has the tools to reach across the aisle. Oh, he and Palin will catch flack for sure, but the political climate seems ripe for blue dogs democrats and cooperative GOPers to get things done for the better, i.e.

* Radical change in energy policy (with emphasis on being "green"), immediately lessening U.S. dependency on Middle East oil
* Solidify gains in Iraq and ratchet-up the effort in Afghanistan to stabilize, with emphasis on increasing help from Europe
* Greater emphasis on service to country
* Tax reform--flat or point-of-sale tax only
* Immigration reform
* Free trade
* Contain Russia, maintain with China, press North Korea to de-arm
* Support Israel
* Do what it takes to keep Iran non (militarily) nuclear
* Education reform - school choice
* Drastic changes to rebuild highway, bridge, and coastal levee infracture, even if it takes an FDR approach in this regard




bzirk -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 10:58:54 AM)

Should he continue the course laid out by the Bush White House, or begin a completely new one?

I didn't really answer that question. The answer is no in some respects and yes in some respects.

Bush has made some pretty good judge nominations -- at least from what I can tell so far. McCain needs to do likewise.
We haven't had a terrorist attack (some place other than war zones) since 9/11, and that does count for something.
Bush did sign the partial birth abortion ban. Why any president wouldn't sign that is completely shameful.
Bush did cut taxes, and that has helped our economy. Frankly, I would love it if we got the flat tax or some variation of it. But I seriously doubt it will happen. That would take a serious revolution.

But Bush hardly met a spending bill he didn't like. That's what is hurting the budget. McCain certainly needs to make a 180 on that.
Also, I HATE Bush's immigration stance, and I'm not so sure I'm thrilled by McCain's.
Also, the Bush administration was asleep at the wheel on the mortgage mess. Hey, when a knucklehead like me can tell things are messed up YEARS before it happens, I'd like to think those guys at the Treasury can get it right.
Last but not least McCain needs to go on the offensive with the press (glad to see he's doing that) because Bush did not and also could not communicate effectively with the American people. If that means going directly to the people by getting out of the White House and making speeches, then do it. Do something to communicate with the American people. Bush did not do that well, and again, I realize the press (in general) worked against him but he should have done an end run. Didn't see nearly enough of that.




csl7037 -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 11:11:49 AM)

Great observations, bzirk, I think you're right on target (post 8). Good thoughts all around but I think Quaz hit on something...

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ORIGINAL: Quasiblogo
I expect that McCain will indeed get more done because he has the tools to reach across the aisle. Oh, he and Palin will catch flack for sure, but the political climate seems ripe for blue dogs democrats and cooperative GOPers to get things done for the better, i.e.


I do think there's a strong contingent in this "do nothing Congress" that's frustrated with their ridiculously partisan/obstructionist leadership that would gladly come alongside Lieberman and others and want to work with McCain to actually have a real dialogue and make some progress.

Beating down Bush became sport for the Democratic Leadership but only as a means to power. Now they're sitting there with nothing to lose but their own "legacies" and it really does them no good to continue to antagonize and foil McCain the way they have Bush. Not that I think Pelosi will get off her high horse and try to get anything done, but I think she would lose considerable sway over the others given McCain's respect and cooperative relationships within Congress.

If Obama were elected on the other hand, I think it would only strengthen Pelosi and the other Democratic leadership in Congress and I think he'd be little more than a puppet for them.




bzirk -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 11:26:39 AM)

Pelosi and Reid are a joke, and I usually don't make inflammatory remarks like that which do little but create a knee jerk and seldom provoke a thoughtful response. But in their case, the evidence is too strong to ignore. [8D]

I agree that Quasiblogo made a great point about the position the congress is in should McCain or Obama be elected. But no matter who it is, they have to do something -- especially considering the foreclosure mess and the gas prices. Those things are felt every day in America, and people are hot about it.

What I'm most concerned about is the government growing more than it aleady has. I'm usually not one to freak out over politics, and I've heard all of my 50 years that the presidential election is a crossroad. But I really believe this one is a crossroad. Are we going to choose a more socialistic form of government or are we going to remain more free market? Thankfully, I put my faith in the Lord and not the wisdom of the American people. If I did put it in the latter, I'd have an ulcer.




Quasiblogo -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 5:07:14 PM)

Thankfully, I put my faith in the Lord and not the wisdom of the American people. If I did put it in the latter, I'd have an ulcer.

Well said! And the polls on that are already out: every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.




rcjames -> RE: An Open Question To McCain Backers (9/13/2008 6:18:47 PM)

When a bill comes to him with any "Secret pork barrel additions" veto it and make public a list of the legislators who included those "Earmarks".

Increase the effort to take Bin Ladin.

Appoint 2 or 3 non-activist constitutionalist Supreme Court Judges.

Do whatever is necessary to continue the safety and peace we have experienced for the last seven years.

Cut back on the size of government and cut back on taxes for everyone.

Open the offshore and anwar and the werstern state to oil production to carry us until someone invents the flux capacitor or a reasonable facsimilie.

Make the way easy to build nuclear power plants and gasoline refineries.

Put up a major reward for the companies that do come up with workable alternatives to fossil fues (maybe a flux capacitor), but do not give research monies as it will only slow down the process.

Do away with all color based programs in the U.S. and make it as MLK said, " judge by the content of one's character and not by the color of thier skin".

That out to take care of the first six months, I will work on what to do next.

Thanks
RC




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