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deliveredarling -> Double Standards (9/11/2008 10:47:58 PM)

We as Christians are such hypocrites. We have double standards about everything. We hold those sins that we think are not so bad while we condemn others because they are such abominations.
What it really boils down to, are our standards of right and wrong, to what degree we attribute the atrocity.


The truth is, if it's sin, it's an abomination and offends God. How bad we may think something is doesn't even matter. To God, it is all the same.

Ex abortion being worse than lying.
murder being worse than stealing

These are man' degrees and we just don't seem to be able to see all of it the same way God does. We have a superiority complex than somehow , in our minds justifying condemnation of pet sins. The favorite ones we love to hate. In reality, we should hate it all.

Thoughts and comments welcome.



mvic -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 6:04:58 AM)

"We as Christians are such hypocrites."

You are 100% correct. It's our hypocricy which makes un-believers wary of Christianity. Some of us are a total disgrace and a very bad advert for Christianity. Jesus must be ashamed of us.

"The truth is, if it's sin, it's an abomination and offends God. How bad we may think something is doesn't even matter. To God, it is all the same."

You are right again. But let's be careful here. There has got to be a degree in all types of sin. There's a great difference between stealing a sweet from a shop and being a mass murderer. If as you say: "To God, it is all the same" then we're all doomed ... No one will ever enter Heaven. Because we've all committed some sins of one type and another, and of one magnitude and another.

I believe God does accept a level of "seriousness" between one sin and another, and He will take these into account when the right time comes.



txpope -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 6:13:50 AM)

You are correct. Sin is often judged by us according to severity. I am a human and have had to stop and slap myself to realize that at times. I am no different than others who sin and knowing that helps me with compassion that I don't often have for some people.

I do think people are to be held accountable for certain things but not by men for the reason of condemnation. People of higher standing in the church for example have guidelines to live by that are higher than the average person but when our leaders stumble we often send them to the wolves, not realizing in thier time of desparation they need love, prayer and guidance too.

Jesus suffered for our sins so that we wouldn't have to. He didn't condem anyone who came to Him with a plea, instead He showed them love and compassion. Often doing this will help the person see thier faults and knowing they have support will increase thier chances of recovery from it. If you see someone fall in the street would you help them to thier feet and attend to thier injuries or would you say "Hey, get up.....You should have been watching where you are going!"

Think about that the next time you find yourself with thoughts of judgement, it helps......

God Bless!!



deliveredarling -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 6:41:44 AM)

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There has got to be a degree in all types of sin.


I'm glad you said this. It's a good discussion point.

If there are degrees, doesn't that mean that man has then put the degree and severity on the sin? Meaning then , that we are being the judge and jury of said sin? Isn't that sin in itself?
We have God's Word to go by and learn from. However, there are those out there who pervert the truth and will twist the Word to say and hear what they want to hear.
"Certain sins are the worst because we aren't doing them." This seems to be the prevailing unconscious thought, that is unspoken yet the actions are stating it.
I've even learned that thinking differently about things is seen as sin! If you think contrary to some, you are condoning sin.

You said that about being doomed. Sin is all the same to God, it's why His Son was nailed to the cross. Jesus wasn't nailed for just the really bad ones, but ALL sin.
We are only doomed if we reject Him. If we focus more how much we have been forgiven, then we just won't sin others sins as being so much worse than our own.



rcjames -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 8:00:51 AM)

All sins are wrong in God's eyes; period.

Scripture does speak to different "Evilness" or degrees of sin.

Jesus spoke of the sin that cannot be forgiven.

John wrote of sins that leads to death, and sins that do not lead to death.

I just praise God for the Scriptures that lays out pretty much what is sin, and whether we agree with what it says or not; Scripture is the authority.

It is my firm belief that if someone is walking in love, then they will not sin.

Thsnks
RC



Consecrated2God -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 8:08:20 AM)

I agree with RC. There are degrees to sins, and some will be judged more severely than others. However, the smallest sin is enough to keep you out of heaven if you haven't repented and received God's forgiveness.



stellaluna -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 10:33:01 AM)

I pretty much don't call myself Christian anymore. I call myself a "follower of Christ." It's enough of a difference in semantics to get people that are not Christian or anti-Christian to stop and think and wonder and ask questions. Hypocrisy is the primary reason I've found that people have a problem with Christianity.



mvic -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 3:27:58 PM)

Deliveredarling,

You're right - man put the "degrees and severity" in sin. And as RCJames said - degrees are mentioned in the Bible.

We must have degrees of sin, albeit even the tiniest of sins is hurtful to God.

Without degrees (a points penalty system if you prefer) all sins would be deemed equal in severity. And I'd be in real trouble ... My sins are so tiny you need a microscope to see them. Humility being one of them !!!!



LCannon -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 4:38:54 PM)

The ramifications of unbelief, for truth is absolute in His sacrifice thus obedience to it, can carry different consequences. Some seem to 'escape' arrogance's consequence to sin again(or repeatedly) however only obedience carries eternal reward.



txpope -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 4:47:04 PM)

The topic was about how WE judge severity and hypocritically alienate people for thiers sins. God will judge us based on our sins, He is to decide what will happen and what penalty we will pay.



deliveredarling -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 5:11:35 PM)

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The topic was about how WE judge severity and hypocritically alienate people for thiers sins. God will judge us based on our sins, He is to decide what will happen and what penalty we will pay


Welcome to the forums[:)]

I agree with this summary.

I came to this conclusion last night and how very guilty I am of having done the same thing.
Taking a certain "sin", something that I viewed as really horrible, just because I wouldn't do it, and raking another over the coals because they don't view it the same as me. As if my way is the only right way.
It's somewhat comforting that I am not alone, yet when I realized the impact it can have on another, I was horrified that I too was just as guilty.

I just wondered if others felt the same way.



zamdad -> RE: Double Standards (9/12/2008 5:52:15 PM)

Good topic, Deliveredarling. Yes, the church is full of hypocrites. Once we begin to acknowledge that fact, own up to it, perhaps we can correct it. As someone working in the criminal justice system. I see this all the time. It seems, as humans, we like to categorize things. Make one thing worse than another as well as group people into groups to better fit our own understanding. I think that bringing things into a place where it fits our own understanding is one of the reasons we continually fall so short. It seems that all too often we even try to bring God down to a level to fit our own comprehension.



URForgiven -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 8:54:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: deliveredarling

We as Christians are such hypocrites. We have double standards about everything. We hold those sins that we think are not so bad while we condemn others because they are such abominations.
What it really boils down to, are our standards of right and wrong, to what degree we attribute the atrocity.

Thoughts and comments welcome.


You could not be more right DD. We love to hold up the sins "of others", sins that we find personally more repulsive than our own...and then sit back and feel good about ourselves for at least not being as "bad' as they are.

It is the basis for all the judging and condemning of fellow Christians and non-Christians alike. And we rationalize it by fooling ourselves into believing that the speck is in our eye, and the plank is in the others eye.

But the truth is this, "let him who is without sin among you cast the first stone".

Peace



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 11:34:26 AM)

The Bible does take some sins more seriously than others, most definitely. Some sins, what G-d thinks of them, and their more severe consequences are mentioned in the Bible -- the sin unto death already mentioned, hom0sexuality, adultery, and more are mentioned as those receiving the most severe consequences.

As far as my own judgment, when I sin, and the impact is only upon myself, I do tend to see it as a lesser sin to me than that which impacts another. But if my sin impacts another, to me, it is far more serious. As an example, when a couple engage in sex outside of marriage, it is so selfish, because while they often claim to love one another, they certainly do not, in my opinion, because they are impacting the soul, physical well-being, spiritual well-being, and psychological well-being of another as well as possibly a third party (a child), their families (if they learn of their indiscretion and/or if there is a child), their place of worship (if they learn of their indiscretion and/or if there is a child), and their friends (if they learn of their indiscretion and/or if there is a child).

Some sins are like some vicious many-tentacled evil octopus, drawing more and more people into its clutches.



deliveredarling -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 11:51:16 AM)

I think I need to clarify an earlier statement. I'm not advocating that God doesn't have degrees for sin. We know that He does, His Word says it.

We know that ALL sin deeply offends Him.

I am referring to the degrees man puts on said sins. This we do not agree on (Chrisitans as a whole). Some sins are greater to some Chrisitans than others.

We hammer those that don't agree with our opinions and surely that is what they are, if the Bible doesn't say it explicitly, then all we have to go by is our interpretation of scripture, which could be a correct interpretation or an incorrect one.

The best example I can give was a thread that I started called 'bringing the bar into church.'

I held my convictions to the bitter end, and bitter it was.

I questioned why said Christians could not see what I was seeing and why the topic was ok with them.

Now, this being a double standard for me,because even though bringing the bar into church is oh so against my beliefs other sins are ok.

Whacked huh?

Well, it seems we all do this upon occasion. We throw fits and feign outrage over things that just are not listed in the Bible. We claim what is Godly and what is not. What is Christian and what is not, so much so, we challenge others belief in Christ.

Who do we really think we are offending more, them or Christ himself, watching us as professed lovers of Him, tear each other apart, over OPINIONS.

I've been greatly humbled and quite embarrassed at my own behavior.

I even see this behavior presently in some threads and am so tempted to say, "And you call yourself a Christian and act that way..".

Yep, I have double standards, because even in those times, how easily I forget, that I have acted the same way.

It's a struggle folks. Being aware of my own behavior and watching my mouth....

I'm outspoken as it is, but I still ask, "Lord, where is my own muzzle?'

.[:(]



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 12:21:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: deliveredarling
I even see this behavior presently in some threads and am so tempted to say, "And you call yourself a Christian and act that way..".

. . . So maybe you should write that.

-- Oh, maybe not. [;)]

But I'll tell you what! You and I have not always agreed [sm=halo.gif], and we have been blunt with one another. But I worry about "throwing fits" toward people. So you can do it to me if you catch me at it. Hey, save your skin and the criticism of people by writing, "AYCYAB!" ("And you call yourself a believer!") I'll know what you mean and get mad at you, then realize that you mean well and I should pay attention. [:D]



deliveredarling -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 12:23:29 PM)

[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]

That cracked me up!



deliveredarling -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 12:25:44 PM)

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"AYCYAB!" ("And you call yourself a believer!")


That's a good one for the snarky thread![:D]



Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 12:29:13 PM)

[:D] Hee-hee!



zamdad -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 1:58:10 PM)

I was going to bring this up in the post I wrote last night, but decided not because it seems that I always referance it and many simply don't like the topic, therefore shut it down. But, since Covann mentioned it. I might as well too.

Because I have spent many years working with criminals, I have noticed how we like to categorize criminals. We see the worst of them as being sex offenders. Even in jails/prisons, other inmates view sex offenders as being the lowest of the low. Yet, many convicted of sex crimes never make it to prison, they are supervised on probation in the community.

I know most don't like this discussion because there is an inherant danger. For the majority of us, that danger is unknown. The media plays into the fear by categorizing all sex offenders as being equal. yet, as someone who has supervised a sex offender caseload, sat in on countless hours of sex offender treatment, exploring the thinking/thoughts that go into setting up an offense, I find that most of us should be keenly aware that we can all say, "But by the grace of God go I."

Through my particiaption with these offenders I was able to see that my own life has been filled with thoughts and subsequent actions that are, pure and simple, sin. Sin that not only affects me, but sin that impacted others. My selfishness, my wants and desires being fulfilled at the expense of others.

All too often I hear others, men and women, who claim the name of Jesus Christ say things that don't reflect the character of Christ. Being someone who has worked in the business of confrontation, I have chaleenged brothers and sisters in the thinking behind their comments. Frequently the response is, "I didn't mean it," "I was only kidding," etc. What's on the heart come out of the mouth. No one acts or blurts out something unless their mind has entertained the thought. Seems to me that we all need to be aware of our own personal thought lives. When those things that are not Christ honoring enter our minds, we need to capture those thoughts and surrender them to Him.



URForgiven -> RE: Double Standards (9/13/2008 3:05:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: zamdad

I was going to bring this up in the post I wrote last night, but decided not because it seems that I always referance it and many simply don't like the topic, therefore shut it down. But, since Covann mentioned it. I might as well too.

Because I have spent many years working with criminals, I have noticed how we like to categorize criminals. We see the worst of them as being sex offenders. Even in jails/prisons, other inmates view sex offenders as being the lowest of the low. Yet, many convicted of sex crimes never make it to prison, they are supervised on probation in the community.

I know most don't like this discussion because there is an inherant danger. For the majority of us, that danger is unknown. The media plays into the fear by categorizing all sex offenders as being equal. yet, as someone who has supervised a sex offender caseload, sat in on countless hours of sex offender treatment, exploring the thinking/thoughts that go into setting up an offense, I find that most of us should be keenly aware that we can all say, "But by the grace of God go I."

Through my particiaption with these offenders I was able to see that my own life has been filled with thoughts and subsequent actions that are, pure and simple, sin. Sin that not only affects me, but sin that impacted others. My selfishness, my wants and desires being fulfilled at the expense of others.

All too often I hear others, men and women, who claim the name of Jesus Christ say things that don't reflect the character of Christ. Being someone who has worked in the business of confrontation, I have chaleenged brothers and sisters in the thinking behind their comments. Frequently the response is, "I didn't mean it," "I was only kidding," etc. What's on the heart come out of the mouth. No one acts or blurts out something unless their mind has entertained the thought.


It is interesting that pedophiles are so hated by other prisoners. Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps because they were victims themselves? Or perhaps because even those who are the bottom of our moral barrel still recognise it for the evil that it is. When you steal a young one of their innocence...the enemy has half the battle won.

I remember your previous posts. The problem I see with what you present is misplaced sympathies. No doubt, due to your line of work. Once someone crosses the line and inflicts their sin upon another, then they have relinquished certain rights of citizenship. And it is then our responsibility to protect society from them.

Yes, we, as Christians, are capable of anything. There are many who will deny that, but they only deny their own need for the grace of God at all times and in all ways. If we are not afraid of ourselves, then we are deluded. I understand the need to have compassion for those of us who have succumbed to the draw of what we, as a society, consider the most grievous sins. But that compassion does not negate the need for providing a safe environment for our citizens, and especially for the most innocent and needy among us.

You will say that we need to restore the criminals and the victims. But, there is no restoration for those who have been murdered, and it is impossible to restore innocence lost. Quite frankly, I just do not care as much for the criminals as I do for the victims. It is not that the offenders sin is greater, but that the consequences are. Both to themselves and to their victims. Is that a thought I need to take captive or a thought that is in keeping with the crime? Jesus Himself said...

Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.

It would seem those we consider the worst among us, understand this better than we who consider ourselves better.

quote:

Seems to me that we all need to be aware of our own personal thought lives. When those things that are not Christ honoring enter our minds, we need to capture those thoughts and surrender them to Him.


I agree completely, well said.

Peace



zamdad -> RE: Double Standards (9/14/2008 4:52:00 AM)

quote:

It is interesting that pedophiles are so hated by other prisoners. Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps because they were victims themselves? Or perhaps because even those who are the bottom of our moral barrel still recognise it for the evil that it is. When you steal a young one of their innocence...the enemy has half the battle won.


Pedophiles are hated by all. The general public as much as by fellow inmates. My comments, however, were not geared toward pedophiles, rather sex offenders in general. One of the unintended consequences of sex offender registries is that all offenders are lumped together with no differentiation for type of crime. Another thing is that, under the law, any adult caught having sex with anyone under 18 years old is labled a pedophile. Yet pedophilia is medically defined as sexual arousal (attraction) to prepubescent children.

Part of the reason that inmates choose sex offenders as the bottom of the food chain is for comparisonitis. Just like so many of us they look at them and say, "I'm not as bad as that one."

quote:

I remember your previous posts. The problem I see with what you present is misplaced sympathies. No doubt, due to your line of work. Once someone crosses the line and inflicts their sin upon another, then they have relinquished certain rights of citizenship. And it is then our responsibility to protect society from them.


Thank you for your input. I can see where you and others might see it as misplaced sympathy. Why do we differentiate so greatly, though, in relinquishing certain rights of citizenship from one category of ofedners over another? Why are we so quick to restore the rights of someone convicted of burglary when the motive for the burglary may have been for sexual gratification/conquest? I agree that we have a responsibility to protect society from the worst of the worst. One of the questions I frequently asked in pre-sentence reports was, "Who are we mad at versus who are we afraid of?" We tend to lock up more of those we're mad at than we do those we're afraid of because we categorize offenses by severity. Burglary is not seen as severely as a sex crime even if the motive for the burglary was for sexual purposes.

quote:

You will say that we need to restore the criminals and the victims. But, there is no restoration for those who have been murdered, and it is impossible to restore innocence lost. Quite frankly, I just do not care as much for the criminals as I do for the victims. It is not that the offenders sin is greater, but that the consequences are. Both to themselves and to their victims. Is that a thought I need to take captive or a thought that is in keeping with the crime? Jesus Himself said...

Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.


True, a murdered victim cannot be restored. Yet, the murdered person still has family that must deal with the loss and move on. When any of us suffer a loss, we are never fully restored. But, we have to find ways to be restored with the community. Likewise, offenders have to be restored. While you may not care about the criminal, chances are the criminal will be released back to your community. If the criminal understands that you and the rest of the community don't care, the criminal is not going to care and the cycle repeats itself. The law has prescribed a consequence and that consequence has been served as directed. Now the criminal has to move on. When we let criminals know we don't care, it's all too easily reciprocated. And then we get mad at the state for not fixing them.

I also think you may be misapplying the verse you cited. Seems he is talking about leading fellow believers astray. Not specifically about physically/mentally/emotionally harming a child.



SonInMe1 -> RE: Double Standards (9/14/2008 5:53:25 AM)

My take..

I think God has created a war within us when He indwellt us with the Holy Spirit. Here we have the Spirit and its ability to discern what evil is....and its conviction over being judgemental. We can clearly see the evil in people...but are not to be judgemental.

That's tough. Unsaved people can't see this evil. To them people are essentially good people.

We can easily become jusgemental if we are not patient and kind and keep no records of wrong doings/. RC is right..its really hard to sin when you love people...

I'll, be honest...its not easy to love people. Call christians hypocrits if you must but you can never say christians are immature to have their faith. Try loving everyone and see how easy that is.

I also have a hard time with being called a hypocrit. Our standard is Christ. Sure the world may not be hypocrits....that is because their standard is their own..and so low. They seldom if ever fall short of their moral goals because in reality..they have none...or so low its a joke.

Christians are held to the standard of the perfect man, Christ. Gee, how many have fallen short of that? The answer...all. We procliam a perfection that is...extremely difficult to achieve....if it can be.

I'll tell ya the truth even if I struggle with it. We are not called to be God. We are called to love like God, to love Him and others. There are rules in that and morality and standards and we are encouraged to meet every one...but..we...will...not.

So, the world calls me a hypocrit....heck the world doesn;t even know the standard we try to live by, Jesus Christ. They can all me a hypocrit right until Jesus comes to take us away...no biggie.

A christian calling me a hypocrit? Welll...that...is a horse by a different color. Ya hafta listen to that unless its an immature christian with some issues.



URForgiven -> RE: Double Standards (9/14/2008 10:26:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: zamdad

quote:

It is interesting that pedophiles are so hated by other prisoners. Why do you suppose that is? Perhaps because they were victims themselves? Or perhaps because even those who are the bottom of our moral barrel still recognise it for the evil that it is. When you steal a young one of their innocence...the enemy has half the battle won.


Pedophiles are hated by all. The general public as much as by fellow inmates. My comments, however, were not geared toward pedophiles, rather sex offenders in general. One of the unintended consequences of sex offender registries is that all offenders are lumped together with no differentiation for type of crime. Another thing is that, under the law, any adult caught having sex with anyone under 18 years old is labled a pedophile. Yet pedophilia is medically defined as sexual arousal (attraction) to prepubescent children.

Part of the reason that inmates choose sex offenders as the bottom of the food chain is for comparisonitis. Just like so many of us they look at them and say, "I'm not as bad as that one."

quote:

I remember your previous posts. The problem I see with what you present is misplaced sympathies. No doubt, due to your line of work. Once someone crosses the line and inflicts their sin upon another, then they have relinquished certain rights of citizenship. And it is then our responsibility to protect society from them.


Thank you for your input. I can see where you and others might see it as misplaced sympathy. Why do we differentiate so greatly, though, in relinquishing certain rights of citizenship from one category of ofedners over another? Why are we so quick to restore the rights of someone convicted of burglary when the motive for the burglary may have been for sexual gratification/conquest? I agree that we have a responsibility to protect society from the worst of the worst. One of the questions I frequently asked in pre-sentence reports was, "Who are we mad at versus who are we afraid of?" We tend to lock up more of those we're mad at than we do those we're afraid of because we categorize offenses by severity. Burglary is not seen as severely as a sex crime even if the motive for the burglary was for sexual purposes.

quote:

You will say that we need to restore the criminals and the victims. But, there is no restoration for those who have been murdered, and it is impossible to restore innocence lost. Quite frankly, I just do not care as much for the criminals as I do for the victims. It is not that the offenders sin is greater, but that the consequences are. Both to themselves and to their victims. Is that a thought I need to take captive or a thought that is in keeping with the crime? Jesus Himself said...

Luke 17:2
It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.


True, a murdered victim cannot be restored. Yet, the murdered person still has family that must deal with the loss and move on. When any of us suffer a loss, we are never fully restored. But, we have to find ways to be restored with the community. Likewise, offenders have to be restored. While you may not care about the criminal, chances are the criminal will be released back to your community. If the criminal understands that you and the rest of the community don't care, the criminal is not going to care and the cycle repeats itself. The law has prescribed a consequence and that consequence has been served as directed. Now the criminal has to move on. When we let criminals know we don't care, it's all too easily reciprocated. And then we get mad at the state for not fixing them.

I also think you may be misapplying the verse you cited. Seems he is talking about leading fellow believers astray. Not specifically about physically/mentally/emotionally harming a child.


I understand that you were not speaking specifically of pedophiles, but I was. As you have said yourself we lump them all together. For someone to be put on the sex offenders list because they were seen urinating in the woods, is ludicrous. But that is a separate issue entirely. And is exactly why I specified the offense.

We differentiate because the consequences of the crimes are different. Surely you believe that where something is taken away that cannot be restored, that it is a more serious offense, and demands a more serious response? I do not understand what you are saying about burglars. Are you saying that a burglar who rapes and/or kills is prosecuted only as a burglar?

I did not say I did not care about the criminal. I said I do not care "as much" as I do for the victim(s). And that is where I think we disagree.

Peace



zamdad -> RE: Double Standards (9/14/2008 2:55:58 PM)

I think you and I are more in agrement than not, URForgiven. I think we just come to the same problem from completely different perspectives. Mine has changed over time as a result of my profession. My pont in bringing up my work with sex offenders in this thread had mre to do with how we, the church, have a double standard not only in how we treat others, but also in how we all too frequently engage in unChrist like thinking and dismiss it. We like to look at those who've been caught and think we're not as bad as them.

With regard to burglars. I've written far too many reports now on people convicted of burglary where the intent of the crime was much more sinister than simply breaking into a home to steal something. As a result of plea bargaining or plea agreements, someone who has been charged with multiple offenses will enter a plea agreeing to be convicted of burglary. Upon release, this does not sound as bad as attempted crim sex. Then again, there are some lewd acts that are nothing more than disgusting, but not prosecuteable as a crime. There was the man who was caught inside the home he broke into wearing nothing but the woman's underwear he took from her dresser drawer. There was the man who was found passed out on a woman's couch wearing no clothing with all of her undergarments partially covering his naked body. There was the man who entered homes during the middle of the night and stood over sleeping women while he masturbated. All three examples have elements of sex crimes, but burglary was the worst crime to be convicted of. Burglars are we people we are justified to be angry with, they are people we also need to fear.



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