Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God?

Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (Full Version)

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yes

10% (4)

73% (28)

sometimes, but not often

15% (6)

Total Votes : 38

(last vote on : 10/21/2008 9:03:06 PM)
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bluestone -> Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 2:37:00 PM)
A lot of people seem to think so. I don't. If it were, Las Vegas would be under water.[;)]

CoeurdeLeon_ -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 2:47:01 PM)
Fire & brimstone? That's a safe bet. Hurricanes? Not so much.

SirWintery -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 2:50:18 PM)
I voted "no". I had googled for such thoughts on Gustav last week and found some calling it the "staff of God". I was just waiting to hear somebody start up on all the sins that were causing these hurricanes---and if they strike something "important"...not that everyone and everything in their lives are not important...but I mean something that gets media attention...there will be those who will provide reasons, which of course, will double as reasons for people to support whatever they believe _already_, whether there's a catastrophe or not.

ta_mosquito -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 2:52:29 PM)
Last I checked, we're all sinners. Why would the ones on coasts be more worthy of God's punishment than the rest of us? Last I checked, the punishment is going to come later and via fire, not water. He already did that. [;)]

bluestone -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 2:53:50 PM)
excellent post, ta_mosquito.

WesP -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 3:07:53 PM)
Just a result of a fallen world.

bluestone -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 4:43:29 PM)
I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior.

cow451 -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 6:24:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bluestone I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior. It's those half-naked people playing in the water!

Jhud -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/2/2008 7:37:52 PM)
Anyone who is associated with New Orleans isn't really suprised when God gives it a good rinse.

DanJames -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/3/2008 12:58:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cow451 quote: ORIGINAL: bluestone I don't understand the concept of God punishing coastal areas, and not the interior. It's those half-naked people playing in the water! Man... those half naked people always ruin it for the rest of us... I'm pretty sure that since there was no rain before the flood, there would have also been no hurricanes. Much of Mother Nature's less favorable traits (earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis) are thought to have some origin in the Flood-making process. Which is probably why God gave us the rainbow. That way Noah and Co. wouldn't think that they screwed up every time a rain cloud loomed on the horizon.

Consecrated2God -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/3/2008 10:09:12 PM)
I voted sometimes, but not usually. When bad weather was a judgment in the Bible, God always gave an advance warning through a prophet. The people being judged didn't have to speculate on whether or not it was a judgment. Can't think of any specific time when a hurricane was a judgment, though, but floods and hail mixed with lightning were both mentioned.

bluestone -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/3/2008 10:13:49 PM)
true. I think that if God spoke in an audible voice, and said storms were on the way as correction for sinful living, most people would think it is a government conspiracy, or publicity stunt. He probably zaps us in different ways these day.

Consecrated2God -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/12/2008 9:03:35 PM)
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GHitch -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:26:37 AM)
Hurricanes used to be named solely in the feminine - so there you have it - the real reason for hurricanes is too many angry woman with their hands on their hips. [:D]

GHitch -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:45:25 AM)
If bad weather were always punishment from heaven, the people around where I live must be very terrible sinners. Around here we have a saying that we only have 2 seasons - 6 months of winter and 6 months of bad weather. But seriously speaking, the bible says that satan is the prince of the power of the air and we see in Job that he caused a tornado that wiped out Job's kids. So why don't people blame the devil for deadly weather rather than God? God gets blamed for everything that goes 'wrong' in this world. And the devil likes it that way. God ain't guilty. We even have those strange texts where it states that "the land vomits out it's inhabitants" Lev 18:26 quote: But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean), lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. Hmmm... Is there by chance some natural link between sin and natural catastrophe? Does nature itself sort of automatically go wrong the more virtue and justice go out a land? It would seem so.

Veritas -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:45:34 AM)
It rains on the just and the unjust.

drmark -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 9:54:51 PM)
Because God says so or because you say so, Veritas?

Veritas -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 10:45:59 PM)
The saying is from the Bible. I happen to believe it is true, but it is certainly not true because I say so. I'm not sure why you're asking. Do you doubt that it's true?

drmark -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 10:55:57 PM)
Why should an atheist believe some things in the Bible are true, but not others?

Veritas -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:08:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drmark Why should an atheist believe some things in the Bible are true, but not others? What a strange question! Because some statements appear to be true and other not true. There are some things in the Bible I believe to be true and other things I do not believe to be true. If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false?

drmark -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:16:39 PM)
What a strange answer! Appearances do not make statements true, Veritas. Personal beliefs do not make things in the Bible true. The illogical inconsistency of atheism is laid bare for all to see.

Veritas -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:30:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: drmark What a strange answer! Appearances do not make statements true, Veritas. Personal beliefs do not make things in the Bible true. I never said appearances make statements true, nor that personal beliefs make or do not make things true. quote: The illogical inconsistency of atheism is laid bare for all to see. What illogical inconsistency? That I accept some statements of the Bible as true and not others? There is no inconsistency there. You didn't answer my question: If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false? ETA: Another question for you: What's with the hostile attitude? All I said was, "It rains on the just and the unjust"?

drmark -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/13/2008 11:42:51 PM)
quote: Because some statements appear to be true and other not true. There are some things in the Bible I believe to be true and other things I do not believe to be true. If you find a statement you believe to be untrue in some book, do you then assume each and every word of that book must be false? Your post is clear, Veritas. Appearances and personal beliefs form the basis of your truth system. God's Word forms the basis of my system, so my perception of appearance or belief in whether a portion of a book is true or not is irrelevant to that determination. I realize you cannot see your inconsistency so we won't waste any more time discussing it.

Consecrated2God -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/14/2008 7:52:46 AM)
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KaseyTom -> RE: Is bad weather such as hurricanes punishment from God? (9/15/2008 2:58:01 PM)
Natural disasters impact children and the elderly the most. They also disproportionally (by a huge margin) punish the poor over the wealthy. To me this does not sound the actions of a just and loving God.

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