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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 11:54:00 AM
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phreddy
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I don't mind saying-I am highly disturbed by the fact that Ms. Palin quite obviously held a vendetta against her former brother in law-regardless of how justified she may have been (or how JUSTIFIABLE her actions may be to those who are investigating her), I guess it just appears that those who are in a position of power look very small when they stoop to take revenge against someone weaker than they. Long and short, if it was ordering a secretary to get her dry cleaning or firing someone she didn't like, it's an abuse of power and that to me makes it detestable (and very much against what the Bible tells us as Christians we are to do).
I have been a manager in the past and I had people on my team that I knew purposely undermined me to superiors and I did not like on a personal basis. As long as they did their work, I had nothing to say to them-my personal feelings for them was just that-MY personal feelings. It looks like in this case, she took her personal feelings a little too far.
Her brother-in-law was a State Trooper, whom it is alleged she sought to have fire, tasered an 11 year old and threatened to kill someone, as well as violating game laws - for which he got 5 days off thanks to his union.
Your concern about 'corruption' seems mislaid her.
Which is somewhat my point-the circumstances surrounding this incident are broad and wide and there are a lot of sides to the story-now you tell me, which story will be told by Mr. McCain's opponents? If several avowed conservatives have never even heard of Ms. Palin, what makes you think that anyone who is introduced to her via a negative sound bite will dig any deeper to find out anything else about her? The Swiftboat attacks were a twisting of the facts-how effective were they in the election on those who were undecided?
Since, he was punished with 5 days off, even his union agreed that he did it.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:00:56 PM
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Sorry 2 months away. But even at that, he has to introduce her, and explain why she's being investigated by the state of Alaska.
I don't think I could have 5 kids myself, and run for such a high office - wow!
Actually, I would love the Democrats to bring this up - in order to attack Palin on this they have to defend a wife-abusing, child abusing, life threatening corrupt state trooper who apparently kills wildlife out of season.
All this while defending their Presidential candidate from charges of association with the corrupt and now convicted Tony Rezko and former terrorist Bill Ayers.
I for one really hope Obama choses to play rough.
I'm just saying, Jack. I'm glad McCain picked someone pro-life. In all honesty, I thought it would be Romney for sure. I really am speechless.
However, I do think it was a big risk to pick someone so unknown, who's being investigated by a state government so late in the game.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:04:23 PM
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Sorry 2 months away. But even at that, he has to introduce her, and explain why she's being investigated by the state of Alaska.
I don't think I could have 5 kids myself, and run for such a high office - wow!
Actually, I would love the Democrats to bring this up - in order to attack Palin on this they have to defend a wife-abusing, child abusing, life threatening corrupt state trooper who apparently kills wildlife out of season.
All this while defending their Presidential candidate from charges of association with the corrupt and now convicted Tony Rezko and former terrorist Bill Ayers.
I for one really hope Obama choses to play rough.
And as with Swiftboating, we quickly learned that the candidate himself does not have to do the dirty work-in fact, he or she can stand back in "disgust" at the actions of their most ardent supporters while reaping the benefits their "information" brings on the undecided voter. Again, just not all that bright of a pick from if nothing more than a potential Swiftboating perspective.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:10:31 PM
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I am surprised that almost no one in this forum, which I assumed is composed of mostly Christians, has noticed that the stay-at-home moms will be taking a major hit here. Does anyone CARE that the potential VP's young children are left to the care of others? Won't the liberals point to this working mom and say there is no need for women to stay home to care for their children and that those who do are old fashioned? If this woman speaks Christian values, she is talking through both sides of her mouth.
This is yet another reason for me to disrespect McCain who I will vote for, grudgingly. 
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:14:40 PM
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I just want to know if she takes the Amtrak train to Juneau, and knows all the conductors? My vote is riding on this!!!
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:15:17 PM
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Does anyone CARE that the potential VP's young children are left to the care of others?
Aren't they cared for by her husband and their father?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:18:51 PM
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Jhud
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I'm just saying, Jack. I'm glad McCain picked someone pro-life. In all honesty, I thought it would be Romney for sure. I really am speechless.
However, I do think it was a big risk to pick someone so unknown, who's being investigated by a state government so late in the game.
Well, considering the Democrat led investigation, which itself admits that Palin as Governor is fully within her rights to fire anyone under her, coincidentally began as Plain was considered for VP, it will be seen primarally for what it is - a political ploy.
And again, investigations are easy to start - perhaps the current President needs to direct the FBI to look into Obama's connections to now convicted Tony Rezko?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:25:03 PM
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I am surprised that almost no one in this forum, which I assumed is composed of mostly Christians, has noticed that the stay-at-home moms will be taking a major hit here. Does anyone CARE that the potential VP's young children are left to the care of others? Won't the liberals point to this working mom and say there is no need for women to stay home to care for their children and that those who do are old fashioned? If this woman speaks Christian values, she is talking through both sides of her mouth.
This is yet another reason for me to disrespect McCain who I will vote for, grudgingly.
How does a SHM take a hit? There have been kids in the White House for years. Why would this be different? There are many conservative moms who work outside the home. I mean, she is a governor, it isn't like she stays home now. How would the WH change this?
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:30:23 PM
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Did you see her entrance/ intro with the hubby and five kids by their side?
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:35:17 PM
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There are very few truly noble endeavors to undertake in this world. Raising children is one of them. Leading millions away from the pied piper is another. This is how I see it.
Very well said...
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:38:28 PM
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I'm just saying, Jack. I'm glad McCain picked someone pro-life. In all honesty, I thought it would be Romney for sure. I really am speechless.
However, I do think it was a big risk to pick someone so unknown, who's being investigated by a state government so late in the game.
Well, considering the Democrat led investigation, which itself admits that Palin as Governor is fully within her rights to fire anyone under her, coincidentally began as Plain was considered for VP, it will be seen primarally for what it is - a political ploy.
And again, investigations are easy to start - perhaps the current President needs to direct the FBI to look into Obama's connections to now convicted Tony Rezko?
Jack - simmer down. I'm trying to be objective here. Remember, I am an independent - I look at both pairs very objectively.
I don't know what to expect from the investigation of her - no one can say at this point - the jury is still out on this one.
However, I like her. She took on corrupt politicians in Alaska. She is a woman, she has 5 kids and did this all. I am very impressed with her.
The only two issues between McCain and her that I have reservations on is that she wants to drill on ANWR. However, McCain is pretty decent on the environment and I think he listens to both sides - that is his mojo. The other is McCain's war rhetoric, which I have not heard too much lately.
It's so exciting!!!! I am still just so in shock over this.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:40:36 PM
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I think Gov. Palin would clean his clock.
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RE: McCain's VP choice Palin - 8/29/2008 12:43:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: GoodnessandMercy
I am surprised that almost no one in this forum, which I assumed is composed of mostly Christians, has noticed that the stay-at-home moms will be taking a major hit here. Does anyone CARE that the potential VP's young children are left to the care of others? Won't the liberals point to this working mom and say there is no need for women to stay home to care for their children and that those who do are old fashioned? If this woman speaks Christian values, she is talking through both sides of her mouth.
This is yet another reason for me to disrespect McCain who I will vote for, grudgingly.
I think she'll look out for stay-at-home moms because she understands what it's like to have lots of kids, pay the mortgage and cook dinner at night.
I am still in shock.
Anyway, Peace and God bless,
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:44:37 PM
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SAHM's take a HIT?
Biden's first wife and infant daughter were killed in a car wreck before he was sworn in for the first time. His two little boys were hospitalized for a long time...... motherless........ and he went right on to Washington.
I am a SAHM of 4, grandmother to 6 and a super conservative person. I'm thrilled for America and SAHM's.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:47:12 PM
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NObama steps up to the plate, knocks the dirt of his cleats, takes a few warm up swings and gets into his stance.
Here's the pitch, it's a low fastball.
NObama swings and.... it's a hit. It's flying deep, deep into center field, it's going, going.....
But wait, there's McCain, he's at the warning track, he leaps, Oh My Gosh! McCain caught the ball! He caught ball! I can't believe it, McCain leaped and snatched that home run right above the center field wall. What a catch!
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:50:41 PM
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I am surprised that almost no one in this forum, which I assumed is composed of mostly Christians, has noticed that the stay-at-home moms will be taking a major hit here. Does anyone CARE that the potential VP's young children are left to the care of others?
She's taking her baby with her to work and breastfeeds her and the dad stays at home. How is that leaving the care of her children to others?
I think she's amazing (and I'm a SAHM). I think McCain made an excellent choice. Now I can be excited about the election again! Before it was a choice between horrible and bleah.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:56:28 PM
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I don't know anymore, I just heard her talk and it was total amateur hour.
Especially since she cribbed Hillary's lines, this seems like a really shallow play for Hillary's voters.
This could be the most genius move ever, but I also think this could blow up in McCain's face.
Especially since the sum total of her experience is city politics and 2 years as governor, which will nullify McCain's attacks against Obama's lack of experience.
The more I know about her, the more bizarre the choice seems to me.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 12:58:25 PM
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I think it was a good choice picking a pro-life woman.
However, I imagine the the biggest objections you will hear will be about her lack of experience. She is governor of a state with a lower population than most major cities, and from what I gather she didn't do much politically before that.
We'll see how it goes.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 1:00:30 PM
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I don't know anymore, I just heard her talk and it was total amateur hour.
I'm willing to give Palin the benefit of her having delivered an introductory, this-is-who-I am speech, but I'm wondering how she'd hold up in a debate on hard international issues versus Biden.
I'll have to see Palin in further speeches to get a vibe on that, but my initial feeling that she'd be in way over her head.
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RE: VP choice Palin (still breast feeding) - 8/29/2008 1:02:33 PM
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Excellent choice.
Obama's initial response was so expected and so petty in dissing small town folks; I predict it will bite Obama in the butt.
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