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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 4:13:51 AM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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What an interesting turn this thread has taken since I last read it yesterday. A few things . . . (1) Experience and age are not synonymous with wisdom, nor do they necessarily always go hand-in-hand (experience can come at any age; wisdom can come at any age; not everyone who has reached a certain age has or practices wisdom; and not everyone who has experienced things has gained wisdom from such experiences). (2) Just because someone is not married doesn't mean that they haven't had their share very real trials. (3) Just because someone is in childbearing years doesn't mean that they are physically capable of conceiving or of bearing children. So to say that someone is lucky that they're still young enough to have children is not only incorrect, it's also insulting. And lastly . . . (4) Disagreeing with someone is not the same as disrespecting them. However, talking down to someone is most certainly disrespectful. Blessings, Sharon-Marie
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 4:42:08 AM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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I am speaking directly to the way that you have talked down to other individuals in this thread. I have read some very good posts in this thread from people who either have not had children or have had only a couple of children. They were well-thought out and their points were very well written. I've also read some very good points from people with large families. However, to automatically discount someone's posts right off the bat because they either are younger than you or they have not had children or the even number of children that you have had is really an arrogant attitude to take (regardless of who is taking such attitude). "You" as in the generic sense. I would say this to anyone who took this attitude.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 4:43:12 AM
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No... I have simply DISAGREED with most here. Maybe you should look into the politics folder and realize that disagreement happens! I stand by what I have stated in my posts. I am sorry that some here cannot handle being criticized. This is a maturity thing, you know...
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 4:50:50 AM
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WhiteRoseBlessings
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And now, I think it's time for me to go read some other threads. Y'all be blessed.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 7:43:33 AM
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My point was that from what I've seen watching the show, they are a good example of what a large family should be like (i.e. taking care of business). Jon seems to have a very well paying job and they have turned this show into another source of income by all appearances. Can we please not bring them into this. Jon and Kate are both unemployed and are basically pimping their children out for money. That is probably a topic for a different thread.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 8:51:50 AM
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Many posts made overnight last night were deleted. If you did not receive a PM, you have not violated TOS, even if I removed your posts. The topic of this thread is "when is a family too big?". Further deviations from topic will not be tolerated, and violation of TOS are never tolerated. In particular, we do not allow foul or coarse language (TOS 5) or harassing of other members, whether you agree with them or not (TOS 6). Please do not reply to this message within the Community. Please do not send me PMs regarding this message as I am unable to discuss it further. Please email Community@salemwebnetwork.com with questions, comments, or concerns. Please allow time for a response. Posts which ignore this warning will be removed without warning and may result in other action in accordance with the Terms of Service.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 8:59:36 AM
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We need to get more posts in here because the deleted posts are causing my subscriptions to be all hoopty and that bugs me so...... A family is too big when they have their own atmosphere. (that was my feable attempt at humor. I think we need some)
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 9:00:31 AM
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ORIGINAL: Hislittleone quote:
ORIGINAL: Memrie88 His: Are you sasying that some conceptions are outside of His will? Maybe, I don't know. But since that's off topic I don't really want to go there. Just because someone can give birth 6 times does not mean they are a good parent or a wise person. Not saying that you aren't. I wouldn't know that because I don't know you. But you are trying to say that anyone who hasn't given birth as many times as you have can't know as much about parenting as you. That's just not true. Giving birth doesn't equal having wisdom, kwim? Experience doesn't always equal wisdom and vice versa. But this is getting a little off topic as well..... The topic is when is a family too big. My opinion is that it is too big when the parents can no longer provide (physically, emotionally, spiritually and financially). Isn't that the truth. I wasn't too impressed with how a few of the qf families I knew were raising their kids, some by the way of the Pearls etc. so I wouldn't take their advice. I do admit that with PARENTING issues, I would look to someone who has been there done that. Raised a child to adulthood because they have seen the stages. But that isn't what this topic is about.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 9:02:51 AM
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You know, I don't really like the term "too big" being applied to a family. It sounds like they went over their limit and had one kid too many, and now they're in a pickle. Kind of like when my little one dumps too much salt on his food. We have to then try and take off some of the salt, by lifting off the top portion of his food and throw it out, or if he's ruined the whole plate, throw it all away. I think that's why some of us find the term offensive. None of us believe, no matter how many kids we have, that any of our children were a mistake. Our family is not too big--it's big enough.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 9:05:50 AM
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ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God You know, I don't really like the term "too big" being applied to a family. It sounds like they went over their limit and had one kid too many, and now they're in a pickle. Kind of like when my little one dumps too much salt on his food. We have to then try and take off some of the salt, by lifting off the top portion of his food and throw it out, or if he's ruined the whole plate, throw it all away. I think that's why some of us find the term offensive. None of us believe, no matter how many kids we have, that any of our children were a mistake. Our family is not too big--it's big enough. I am sorry that the term "too big" is offensive. I titled the thread this way because it is the title of the article I linked. However, it has been stated numerous times in this thread that no one thinks that your (general) kids are a mistake. I thought we all understood that by now.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 9:07:39 AM
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landabee
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ORIGINAL: LaurainAL quote:
ORIGINAL: Consecrated2God You know, I don't really like the term "too big" being applied to a family. It sounds like they went over their limit and had one kid too many, and now they're in a pickle. Kind of like when my little one dumps too much salt on his food. We have to then try and take off some of the salt, by lifting off the top portion of his food and throw it out, or if he's ruined the whole plate, throw it all away. I think that's why some of us find the term offensive. None of us believe, no matter how many kids we have, that any of our children were a mistake. Our family is not too big--it's big enough. I am sorry that the term "too big" is offensive. I titled the thread this way because it is the title of the article I linked. However, it has been stated numerous times in this thread that no one thinks that your (general) kids are a mistake. I thought we all understood that by now. Exactly.
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