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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/22/2008 12:29:43 PM
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TorchHeart
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My wife wants to see this flick. I'd be more apt to see it if 1) I didn't feel like I was going to have someone's religious views shoved down my throat, and 2) it DIDN'T have Kirk Cameron (all he makes me think of is "Growing Pains," which I loathed, and his stupid "banana" comment).
Still, it looks like it has the potential to be a good show, and its message about marriage sounds very positive.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/22/2008 12:42:45 PM
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My wife wants to see this flick. I'd be more apt to see it if 1) I didn't feel like I was going to have someone's religious views shoved down my throat, and 2) it DIDN'T have Kirk Cameron (all he makes me think of is "Growing Pains," which I loathed, and his stupid "banana" comment).
Still, it looks like it has the potential to be a good show, and its message about marriage sounds very positive.
Well, there are many biblical truths in the movie...not necessarily pointed out, but definitely there by example. Not sure what you mean about religious views, etc. being thrown at you.
And I wasn't a fan of KC or GP either, but his character in this move is actually a very good portrayal of what many consider to be a "nice" guy in this world.
I think if your wife asked you togo ...then go  and try to see beyond what you don't like to the true message of the movie.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/22/2008 6:33:54 PM
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I saw the making of on TBN last night. I'm looking forward to it...especially since I'm a big fan of Facing the Giants.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/23/2008 11:51:46 AM
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TorchHeart
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I think if your wife asked you togo ...then go and try to see beyond what you don't like to the true message of the movie.
Can I ask her to do the same thing with "Batman: The Dark Knight?"
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/23/2008 2:10:56 PM
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I think if your wife asked you togo ...then go and try to see beyond what you don't like to the true message of the movie.
Can I ask her to do the same thing with "Batman: The Dark Knight?"
sure, why not? 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/23/2008 4:25:50 PM
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My husband wants to see this flick. He wants to get the book too. (The Love Dare, I think.)
We'll probably go see it eventually even if we have to wait for DVD.
We showed the trailer to a friend who is separated hoping he'd want to ask his wife to the movie. He's finally wanting to work things out. He couldn't even watch the trailer without crying. Very close to his heart. I then suggested sending the book to his wife with a note "let's do this together" hoping she'd consider but he's too emtional for that. She's a bit cynical right now. She's also a divorce attorney. I may "anonymously send it to her though. Not sure yet. Still praying on that one.
We hope they'll go see it and reconcile/re-commit to their marriage. They have a almost 2 year old daughter.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/24/2008 9:45:27 AM
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He wants to get the book too. (The Love Dare, I think.)
yes...it appears that the "merchandising" for the movie will do quite well, also.....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/24/2008 1:13:33 PM
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Re: the friend I mentioned in my earlier post - his wife bought tickets for Friday for them both. Praise the Lord. I pray it will have the impact it needs to help restore this marriage.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/25/2008 3:50:04 PM
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Before anyone makes a comment about the low budget just keep in mind that there are many big budget movies made that totally stink and have no real story line at all to them.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/25/2008 11:52:06 PM
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I think what's cool about this movie is they did it on such a low budget with I believe one camera which is unheard of and about 500 volunteers.
And it looks like it.
Sorry, I know Christians are falling all over themselves over this movie, I hear about how WONDERFUL it's going to be every time I set foot in my church....but I just cannot accept mediocrity in the name of Christ. The Sherwood movies are bad films, period. Both in their production values and the pie-in-the-sky theology they preach.
If somebody wants to comp me some tickets, I'll check it out. Otherwise, I'll wait for the DVD and use a rent-one-free coupon.
Sometimes it's kinda fun to be in the minority!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 2:27:28 AM
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I think people used in 'Christian films' SHOULD be Christians and living like Christians. That's going to limit the number of actors available.
Remember the nativity movie that used a 14 or 15 year old girl who announced she was pregnant by her adult boyfriend not long after the movie was out in theatres?
Many of the old '8 is Enough' cast have starred in Christian films. We love Gerbert, The Singing Place, Bibleman and other kid videos that have Dick Patton, Grant Goodeve and others.
I think too that Christians should also make the best product possible, not the type of movies that are "B" professional quality.
Pastor Marvin Winans said at one time that Christians should have the best, meaning that Christians should be superior in doing their product, and not only working in "Christian only" projects but those in the secular world as well, which many christians criticize those believers who work in hollywood.
Secondly, you have to hire the "best actors" possible in productions. They may not nessarily christians, but mixing those who are believers and non-belivers may be a good thing--hear me out--and the reason being is the believers will be a good witness to those who are unsaved and maybe the unsaved will come to Christ because of the Christian film actor's walk.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 7:10:43 AM
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I think what's cool about this movie is they did it on such a low budget with I believe one camera which is unheard of and about 500 volunteers.
Where did you hear this? I can look at the trailer and see that they're using more than two cameras, including one on a boom in the car-on-the-tracks scene. I'm also skeptical of the claim that it was made w/ 500 volunteers. For one thing, that's a lot of people for this type of movie. Second, unless you manage to get a bunch of highly skilled volunteers (which you won't), your product is going to look terrible. Third, I checked the IMDB listing for this movie and almost everybody listed in the credits has several other movie credits as well, which means they're professionals (albeit, not A-level).
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And it looks like it.
No, it doesn't.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 8:03:07 AM
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I think more people will see this movie now that Kirk Cameron was on Dr. Phil discussing the movie and Dr. Phil seemed to think the movie had a good message and some lessons to learn.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 8:24:07 AM
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Ya it does... sorry I think it looks just as cheesy, corny, and as bad as most other "Christian" movies.
Really, its stuff like this that re-affirms my belief that the Bible was inspired by and directed together by God. If Christians had put it together, you'd have the biggest collection of mediocrity, cheesy lines trying to be deep, tons of fluffy white clouds, ponies and rainbows, and corny melodrama. I seriously wanna know why art is not taken seriously by Christians anymore. You could be the worst artist in history, paint a picture, write a book, make a movie etc, call it Christian with a message and people will say its amazing 
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 9:18:20 AM
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REDFLAG:
The movie was not available for advance screening ....for the press and film columnists. (I went to go see what the Dallas Morning News wrote about it....they are VERY reliable and VERY fair in their reviews)
This happens with ALOT of movies....but, really only happens to ONE KIND of movie: A bad one.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 11:11:10 AM
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I think people used in 'Christian films' SHOULD be Christians and living like Christians. That's going to limit the number of actors available
I don't agree. We're expected to be witnesses in our schools and workplaces, but for some reason, when it comes to the arts and Chrisitanity, then it becomes "Christians only".
I'm a musician, and I've used non-Christian musicians on my recording projects. Hey, if it was a choice between a great guitarist or a mediocre Christian guitarist, it wasn't even a choice. These guys came in and worked with us, did a great job, and we were able to be a witness to them.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 2:45:31 PM
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Ya it does... sorry I think it looks just as cheesy, corny, and as bad as most other "Christian" movies.
Really, its stuff like this that re-affirms my belief that the Bible was inspired by and directed together by God. If Christians had put it together, you'd have the biggest collection of mediocrity, cheesy lines trying to be deep, tons of fluffy white clouds, ponies and rainbows, and corny melodrama. I seriously wanna know why art is not taken seriously by Christians anymore. You could be the worst artist in history, paint a picture, write a book, make a movie etc, call it Christian with a message and people will say its amazing
ROTFLOL!!!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/26/2008 7:04:06 PM
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I had to drive 45 min. to see it and just got home.
WOW, What a good movie! A couple of funny parts too.
Kirk was much better in this than anything he has ever done. Great job Kirk! He seemed more "older" if you know what I mean, and more Mature. This made his role more believable.
Very good message also!
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 12:22:55 AM
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I would like to see this movie but will probably wait till it comes out on dvd.
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 10:18:38 AM
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This is odd, the movie came out last night and yet we only have one report from anybody who has seen it. I figured we'd have been overrun by glowing reviews this morning.
I also checked the IMDB, only one external review, and it's basically the movie's press release, not a critical review, and again, NO new additions to the User Comments...usually the night of a film's premiere, there are a LOT of new comments added to this page....
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 11:14:55 AM
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I think what's cool about this movie is they did it on such a low budget with I believe one camera which is unheard of and about 500 volunteers.
Where did you hear this? I can look at the trailer and see that they're using more than two cameras, including one on a boom in the car-on-the-tracks scene. I'm also skeptical of the claim that it was made w/ 500 volunteers. For one thing, that's a lot of people for this type of movie. Second, unless you manage to get a bunch of highly skilled volunteers (which you won't), your product is going to look terrible. Third, I checked the IMDB listing for this movie and almost everybody listed in the credits has several other movie credits as well, which means they're professionals (albeit, not A-level).
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And it looks like it.
No, it doesn't.
-Dan.
Dan,
The info I provided is what I had heard. I just did some searching
on the net and found an interview with Michael Catt the pastor of Sherwood on the 700 Club.
Here is the portion about the movie production I found there, so I guess I misquoted the number of volunteers and one film crew which I guess doesn't mean only one camera, but one crew.
Sorry about that didn't mean to post incorrectly on purpose.
God Bless!
"PRODUCTION
The movie Fireproof had a $500,000 budget. As with the church's first two films, the production was driven by 1200 volunteers while one professional film crew of eight people who worked at a discounted rate. They received widespread community support from the city of Albany.
“You have to know that this movie is a team effort. It’s the whole church that makes the movie. Without our people and their willingness to serve, none of this would be possible. Without their willingness to buy into the vision of ‘Changing the world from Albany, Georgia,’ we wouldn’t be in the movie business. I’m grateful to pastor a church that will think outside the box,” says Michael."
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RE: 'Fireproof" - 9/27/2008 11:38:45 AM
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I think what's cool about this movie is they did it on such a low budget with I believe one camera which is unheard of and about 500 volunteers.
And it looks like it.
Sorry, I know Christians are falling all over themselves over this movie, I hear about how WONDERFUL it's going to be every time I set foot in my church....but I just cannot accept mediocrity in the name of Christ. The Sherwood movies are bad films, period. Both in their production values and the pie-in-the-sky theology they preach.
If somebody wants to comp me some tickets, I'll check it out. Otherwise, I'll wait for the DVD and use a rent-one-free coupon.
Sometimes it's kinda fun to be in the minority!
I wonder if you think Sherwood films and their theology messages are so bad, why would you personally watch the movie at all?
Seems to me you wouldn't get much from something you predetermined you don't like already.
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