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TorchHeart -> Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/25/2008 11:26:41 PM)

Why is it that when something bad happens to someone, it always seems like everyone thinks we shouldn't blame or attribute what happened to God? Why is God blameless for anything bad, but gets credit for anythhing good that happens?



TheBibleTRUTH -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:02:52 AM)

There are two very important concepts that you must first understand before you can really grasp this.

Most of the suffering and problems of life are due to two things:
I) Because of Adam's transgressions we have sin stained blood and are weak.

- We have very week and frail flesh and often cause problems for ourselves. If you fall asleep momentarily at the driving wheel only to find that we have almost no distance to slow down and we get into a fender bender. Or you put off studying to go to a party and fail a test. These are things we have control over in our lives, but because we aren't perfect we are prone to make mistakes and it causes our lives to be harder than God wants it to be. Some of the suffering in our lives is due to our own stupidity and weakness. We cannot do anything about this except believe that God loves us and has covered us with grace and forgiveness until we get to heaven.

II) The devil wishes to destroy, kill, hurt, etc...

Before I talk about this it is very important to understand WHO God really is.

Ephesians 2:4
4) But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

I John 4:7-8
7) Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
8) He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Romans 8:38-39
38) For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39) Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


The Bible is very clear that God is a god of love, mercy, grace, peace, etc. He is warm. In Psalms it says that he covers us from harm and is our fortress. We are protected and kept safe by God because he is our loving Dad. Suffering does not come from God at all. He loves us so much that he sent his ONLY son to save US.

Romans 8:32
32) He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

The intense suffering that Christ went through was to save US. It says that you could not recognize Christ as a man after he got beaten. How can a God that loves this much not care for us and cause us to suffer.

I John 1:5
5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

Suffering, pain, death, etc... DO NOT come from God at all. The Bible is very clear that God is love and he cares for us deeply. He has covered us with grace, love, peace, joy, abundance, and comfort. This is our God, this is our Father. He does not have a small bit of darkness in him. God is INCAPABLE of doing evil. He is all love, all light, and he is our Father and he wants us to understand him completely and truthfully. It's about time we take a stand on God's word and believe him to show us his true loving nature.

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But BibleTRUTH, why is there still darkness? It doesn't make any sense!

Well, I don't normally do this so as to not glorify the devil's devices because we should focus on him as little as possible, but it has to be said. The Bible is VERY clear about who the author of darkness is.

Hebrews 2:14
14) Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

1 Peter 5:8
8) Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

The devil is the author of death, darkness, and suffering. That is his device and power and he loves to seek people he may devour. And he has the power to make his evil known because Adam transfered authority over the World to him in Genesis.

II Corinthians 4:4
4) In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

The devil is the god of this world. He has control and authority to do things because of what Adam transfered control to him.

Matthew 4:7-11
7) Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8) Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9) And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10) Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11) Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

Look and pay attention at verses 8-9. He showed him the kingdoms of the world, and offered to GIVE them to Christ. He must have ownership over the world if he was able to OFFER them to Christ. That sad truth is that his ability to enact his darkness was given to him by Adam, however, we have the ability to live above him.

James 4:7
7) Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

This is also shown in Matthew 4, he resisted the devil's offer and he immediately left him. Through God we have the ability to triumph over our adversaries.

Romans 8:35-37
35) Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36) As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37) Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

NOTHING can separate us from God. We are called to be super conquerers through God and Christ.

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The Bible is very clear that God is the author of good, light, love, joy, pureness, peace, etc.. and that the god of this world is the author of death, darkness, sickness, etc... You must understand that evil does not come from God. He has no darkness and is not able to cause these things.

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This is from another thread.. but it perfectly applies. God does not deserve the blame, because HE DOES NOT DO THESE THINGS! Blaming him for this stuff is not good and all you do is hurt your relationship with God.

If you do not agree, I encourage you to post, however, I first want you to go to God and ask him to show you the truth. He will indeed reveal things to you if you believe and ask Him too.

God bless you in the wonderful name of Jesus Christ



LCannon -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:36:12 AM)

People unwittingly are acknowledging God as the Eternal Sovereign in either bitterness, disgust or disappointment as they realize 'he could have prevented calamity' so they think he's to blame rather living in obedience despite calamity.



OneJohn410 -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 1:01:37 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

Why is it that when something bad happens to someone, it always seems like everyone thinks we shouldn't blame or attribute what happened to God? Why is God blameless for anything bad, but gets credit for anythhing good that happens?


These questions remind me of Jesus' reply to someone questioning some of His teachings. The question was, "Good Teacher, why ...". Jesus didn't answer the question first, He said, "Why do you call me good? No one is good, but the Father, who is in heaven." That passage, and the one involving placing of blame for sinning by saying he is being tempted by God, for God does not tempt mankind, both come to mind.

I can't set this up with scripture, and I'm not out to snuff out your light, Torch. On top of that, I don't have the big words to feel so proud I know how to spell, so this could look really childish.

Blaming bad things in our life on God:

Well, how about just blame first.
The outcome of what happened is not what was wanted, sought, wished and prayed for, and certainly never entered the imagination. Say you were riding your bike and now your bike will not roll anymore, and you've pizza'd your knees and elbow really professionally. They are on fire, and you can see the little bits of road grit in them. You were changing gears, and noticing something up ahead, you took your attention off your bike and onto the trail ahead of you. Your chain slipped off, the driving foot went down fast and hard, off balance you went sliding down the street next to your bike. It sure looked like your friend ahead of you, getting in to the car though. When she eased into her car, though, you knew it wasn't her, and when she didn't even notice you as she drove away, well, you almost promised you'd never watch where you were going ever again while changing gears.

So there's hurt, pain, realization that things have changed for you, and a broken bike. It's not in your purview to just lay there and die. You don't have any life threatening injuries- at least you haven't seen any fire ant mounds. And since you didn't black out, you might as well test your balance, see if you can stand and haven't fractured anything. There's no one around to help, btw.

Just for this example, how about blaming God for what happened.

It's God's fault I wiped out and messed up my bike, and now I have to walk it home, and I'm a bleeding stinging mess and have already emptied my water bottle. What reason would God have to touch someone looking for a friend like that, who hadn't had his bike tuned up recently. Yep, God's been watching me, seeing me get so high and mighty around my friends and try to take all the glory for good things I do, so He allowed that gravel to get just so and my bike to work just so and this girl in front of me to look just so, all to keep me humble.

If someone shared that with me, I'd ask them if they were sure their head hadn't hit the ground, too. As it is, I don't view Creator God to be one to allow things to come into being for His own entertainment and to be given bad and good things at whim.

If someone consistently shared stories with me about things that have happened in their life, and that the majority of these things that were bad were someone else's fault, and the majority of the good were of their own doing, I'd have to ask them if there was room for God in their life then too.

Where it's hardest for me is not in taking the credit. See, if the girl had noticed me taking the tumble, I'd probably have already assigned the blame to myself. She'd come over asking if I was okay, and I would get back up, brush my pizzas, and groan through my teeth I was okay, and thanks for asking. She wouldn't be getting first aid stuff out of her car and coming back, even to offer me the bandages as she was in a hurry to get somewhere. No way. I'd turn down the offer with a thank you. I'd try to get mended up myself, even fix my bike myself first before taking it somewhere. The last thing would be for me to try to learn something from it all. I've got a pride factor that I cling to really strongly, and I'd probably walk to a hospital to have a broken arm attended to before calling a next door neighbor for a ride to an ER.

It makes my knees sting just thinking about it.[:)]
OneJohn410



Thessa -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 1:50:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

Why is it that when something bad happens to someone, it always seems like everyone thinks we shouldn't blame or attribute what happened to God? Why is God blameless for anything bad, but gets credit for anythhing good that happens?



Why should God be to blame when something bad happens?
If you read the bible it clearly states

John 16:33
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.



dianetavegia -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 8:01:50 AM)

God brought about a lot of destruction, fires, floods, bad weather, plagues, infant deaths (firstborn and King David's child) etc. in scripture. God turned Lot's wife to a pillar of salt. Being eaten by worms is pretty yukky. If it fits within HIS perfect plan, who are we to question the ways and mind of God?

God is not the author of evil but all that is bad in our lives is not 'evil'. If a horrific event stops evil, changes hearts, turns wayward souls to the cross...... What God allows and what God causes are two vastly different things, too.



mvic -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 8:40:32 AM)

There's a similar thread called "God's protection" by Concerto in this very Forum.

God and satan are not sitting wherever they are dishing out good and bad things to us mortals. This isn't a game where sometimes God sends us good stuff, and gets blamed for the bad stuff satan puts our way.

Life is not like that. We have free will and with free will we also have responsibility. We should learn to accept our responsibilities and face the consequences of our actions.

This doesn't mean that satan does not tempt us from time to time. And it doesn't mean that God does not give us opportunities to do good.

We choose whether to give way to satan's temptations or whether to accept God's invitations to do good. And the final responsibility is ours ... not theirs.



URForgiven -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 9:11:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

Why is it that when something bad happens to someone, it always seems like everyone thinks we shouldn't blame or attribute what happened to God? Why is God blameless for anything bad, but gets credit for anythhing good that happens?


Are you saying that God, who IS good, does bad things?

Peace



deermousie -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 10:13:02 AM)

There are some intriguing passages in the book of Job:

9 So Satan answered the LORD and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10 Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!”
12 And the LORD said to Satan, “Behold, all that he has is in your power; only do not lay a hand on his person.” Job 1

You know what happened then - Job lost all his sheep, all his donkeys, all his sheep, all his camels, all his servants but one (try running a big farm with no animals and only one servant), and all his children. Was that not evil, especially to kill 10 children? Yet God allowed it, even though it did not come from God's hand.

And then, to rub salt in the wound, Job's "friends" came and told Job it was his own fault because he was sinning. And get this - God never told Job what the deal was! Job was left in the dark! But Job never sinned, and told his lousy wife who'd told him to curse God and die:

But he said to her, “You speak as one of the foolish women speaks. Shall we indeed accept good from God, and shall we not accept adversity?” In all this Job did not sin with his lips. Job 2:10

Notice that God didn't tell Job he had it wrong and also that God gave back Job twice as much as he had lost (Job 42:10) but only another ten children. Why? Because the first ten were not lost. In heaven, Job now has 20 children - twice what he'd had before. Wow.

In Romans 8:28 God says - all things work together for good, not that all things *are* good. Just in the end is goodness guaranteed. Paul talks about the trials and tribulations of his life, and certainly that didn't take God by surprise. James and Peter talk about trials, how God uses them for good in our lives so we are to rejoice in them. Because God is doing something in us.

Look at Exodus 15:26:

and said, “If you diligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you.”

God brought on disease to the Egyptians - He said so right there. In other places, God brought various nations to attack Israel, to kill them in the cities with famine and in the countryside with the sword and take some into captivity and slavery. Why? To cure their idolatry. Read the minor prophets (Daniel through Malachi) and your hair will stand on end. God wounds so He can heal us and make us sinful people willing to return to Him. He hurts us to He can bless us when we are willing to be in right relationship with Him. It's for good in the end, and from this context we see that God's greatest good is for us to be in relationship with Him.

Look at Romans 8:29, one of the most ignored passages in the NT I think. [:D] It gives the reason for the hardships: that we may be conformed to the image of the Son. Our tough times God uses to make us like Jesus. Wow! And God planned the whole thing - the wording is inescapable there. It's for our good in the end. Praise His name forever!!!!



TorchHeart -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 10:19:58 AM)

And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?



URForgiven -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 10:26:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?


Well, there's a mouthful eh? If your god is abusive and domineering, then you should be sick of it. But then there is always Jesus Christ, who is rich in mercy and full of love and who has no condemnation for those who are His.

Whose are you TorchHeart?

Peace



TorchHeart -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 10:37:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: URForgiven

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?


Well, there's a mouthful eh? If your god is abusive and domineering, then you should be sick of it. But then there is always Jesus Christ, who is rich in mercy and full of love and who has no condemnation for those who are His.

Whose are you TorchHeart?

Peace



Jesus Christ.



URForgiven -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 11:03:53 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

quote:

ORIGINAL: URForgiven

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?


Well, there's a mouthful eh? If your god is abusive and domineering, then you should be sick of it. But then there is always Jesus Christ, who is rich in mercy and full of love and who has no condemnation for those who are His.

Whose are you TorchHeart?

Peace



Jesus Christ.


Then rid yourself of this abusive and domineering false god, and cling to He who is your hope. It is Jesus Christ who is our God, and it is Jesus Christ who has made you blameless and perfect in His sight. Jesus Christ is full of mercy, not abuse. Jesus Christ is humble in Spirit, not domineering.

Jesus loves you. That means you TorchHeart. What more is there to say except, Thank You Jesus!

Peace



Kat_D -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 11:06:08 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: TorchHeart

And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?


I find this absolutely offensive.

You are speaking of the One who through His mercy and grace, saved me from eternal torment in hell when that is what I deserved; the One who forgave my unspeakable sins and has seen me through the most difficult and the best times of my life; the One who loved me in spite of my shortcomings and failures and will continue to walk with me all the days of my lifeof my life. Even in the most difficult times of my life, when I don't understand what is happening or what God is doing, I remember those things and my heart is overwhelmed with gratitude in spite of my circumstances.

I resent You speaking about the Lord that way. This is, after all, a Christian site and most people her are in love with Him. Have some respect.

I believe you have a root of bitterness that is eating you alive...dig it out before it strangles your heart.

The most amazing thing is that God is looking down on you right now and in spite of the terrible things you say and feel about Him, He still loves you with an everlasting love and your hateful words and thoughts towards Him cannot separate you from that love.

Oh and btw, there was only One who was blameless and it isn't you and it isn't me.[:(]



bluestone -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 11:09:16 AM)

It rains on the just and the unjust.

Most disasters are caused by humans.



rp1 -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 11:19:57 AM)

Please read my post on the Angry with God forum. It responds to this forum too.

I have to agree with Alpha and Omega. There are consequences to our own actions.

However, this is not to say that you, TorchHeart are to blame for everything that happens to you. You aren't you know...not for everything...not even for most things that happen to you.

Bad things happen because we live in a fallen world...and a world wherein we creatures exercise our free will through a neutral medium that we call 'the physical'.

You know, C.S. Lewis deals with this issue in his book, The Problem of Pain. I found chapter 1 of that book quite illuminating.

I deal with the issue a little in chapter 10 of my book, The Science and Myth about Genesis Chapter 1, published by Xulon Press. [See http://rpreitz.tripod.com/ ]



Liveloved -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:07:15 PM)

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And if we are getting sick of His abusive and domineering relationship with us?


Oh, TorchHeart, listen to what deermousie and URForgiven have said to you. They have spoken wisdom to your soul. Let their words sink in and know that Jesus LOVES you. God allows all manner of things to come into our lives so that we will know Him and love Him more.

When things are going well and you're doing fine, do you need Jesus and cling to Him? Hopefully you do. But He knows us and knows that we so easily slide into self dependence instead of relying and trusting fully in Him. So when the tough times come, He uses those to mold us and shape us (Romans 8:29), conforming us to the very image of the One we love, Jesus.

He turns evil into good for you! In fact He turns ALL evil into good for you! That's the wonderworking God we love and serve.

These hard things are for your good. As Basilea Schlink said, "Everything God does is LOVE, whether I understand it or not." That is a mighty big truth about our mighty big God.

Believe it. He is love and He loves you and wants His very best for you. Yield to Him, surrender all to Him, give Him these hard things and let Him use them to polish you into the beautiful diamond He created you to be. And then His glory will be shining from you and others will see Him.

My prayer and blessing, TorchHeart. It is not easy. Thanks for sharing so honestly with us. . . and with Him. That is what He desires. Jesus will bless you![sm=hug.gif] LL



TorchHeart -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:21:54 PM)

Look. I'm ticked with a lot of things. I'll admit it.

I'm sorry if I offended people like Kat_D. I shouldn't have said that God is domineering and abusive. That was wrong and I'm sorry. But as I've said before, I don't see the same God everyone else does. I just want to understand God and a number of things that have happened in my life, and why He can't be held to blame for causing bad things to happen. And I get tired of just hearing "God is all love."

Thank you to all of you who have actually tried to answer this for me.



sparkleingsnow -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:46:29 PM)

I think a better question is why do some praise and love the Lord when things are going good, but doubt Him and get angery with Him when they don't get their way about some things, or things are going bad. He is the same God. All powerful, all knowing, all wise, all loving.

Anger, hurt, unforgivness, ect can't block God's love for us, but it seems to me that it can sure make us unable to feel it. And it sure effects how our light shines to others. We have to understand that it's not about us. It's about our creator, God.



mvic -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:52:36 PM)

Let me tell you a story. It's a bit long but I'll try to make it short. Have patience with me.

Once upon a time a rich young man was proudly driving his brand new car through town. He took a wrong turning by mistake and ended up in the poor side of town. A place where nobody goes !!!

He quickly tried to get back to more familiar territory. As he turned down one street there was an almighty bang on the side of his car. Someone had thrown a brick at it.

He stopped suddenly to check the damage. A big dent and a six inch scratch in the paintwork.

He was furious. He turned round and saw a young boy of about ten years old. He grabbed him by the shirt, pushed him against the wall and was about to teach him a lesson, when the youngster cried out: "Please sir, don't hit me. Can you help me lift my brother?"

The rich man stopped. He looked round and saw another young boy of about seven lying on the ground next to a wheelchair. The young boy he was holding said: "My brother fell from his wheelchair. He is too heavy for me to lift him. I tried waving at other cars to help me but no one did. I thought if I threw something at your car you'd stop."

The rich man let go of the youngster and helped his brother back into the wheelchair. He looked at the damage in the car and decided not to get it fixed. It would serve as a reminder of the event and a talking point with his friends.

The moral of this story is that sometimes God has to do something drastic to attract our attention.

Whatever happened to you TorchHeart, and I am in no way trying to minimise it, it could well be God trying to attract your attention. He may well be saying "I love you. I died for you. Come, hold my hand in reconciliation."

I'm praying for you.



bluestone -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 12:53:48 PM)

People do blame God. "An act of God" as the insurance companies say.



TorchHeart -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 2:45:08 PM)

You know what? I'm honestly sorry I started this whole thread. I did it out of anger towards God and towards other people, and I'm sorry.
Kat_D was right. It was offensive to God and offensive to other people, and it was a mistake to ever do it.

TheBibleTRUTH> I will try and take your answer to heart, and remember that before starting yet another thread like this.

If the mods can close this thread down, I would appreciate it.



sparkleingsnow -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 3:47:28 PM)

Why do you want to close the tread? There is nothing wrong with asking the question, and people are trying to answer it. The only problem I have with is the same as Kat_D, and you've already said your sorry for that, so can't we move on?

I know from your other threads that you are hurting.



Liveloved -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 3:55:30 PM)

quote:

You know what? I'm honestly sorry I started this whole thread. I did it out of anger towards God and towards other people, and I'm sorry.
Kat_D was right. It was offensive to God and offensive to other people, and it was a mistake to ever do it.

TheBibleTRUTH> I will try and take your answer to heart, and remember that before starting yet another thread like this.

If the mods can close this thread down, I would appreciate it.


Don't be sorry, TorchHeart. God wants that kind of honesty. There is nothing that ticks Him off more than hypocrisy. And you weren't being a hypocrite. Read the Psalms. The psalmists express every emotion there is---they cry out, WHY???? WHO are You? WHERE are You? WHY aren't You here? WHY aren't You doing anything?

God heard your cry and He wants to meet your every need TorchHeart. He loves you all the more because you dared to be honest. And you dared to be honest in front of other people. That is the kind of reality He desires.

So bless you. Learn about this God you are currently struggling with. Seek to know Him. Why are we telling you He loves you and this is His love to you and will use all for good in your life? Seek the answers in His word. And from His Word. He promises that if you seek Him, He will be found. That's my prayer for you, dear.

Don't ever regret honestly crying out to the Lord. He is a forever merciful God. He hears the cries of the needy and He answers. He's answering you as we speak. Bless you.[:)] LL



TorchHeart -> RE: Blameless - When something bad happens, why is it not from God? (8/26/2008 4:28:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bluestone

People do blame God. "An act of God" as the insurance companies say.



Maybe, but I still don't recommend trying to sue him when a tree branch blows through your window. Its best to just go through State Farm.



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