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RE: McCain's Health Concerns - 8/5/2008 9:44:10 AM
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todd_t
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Cancer wasn't even known for many of our President's lives and medical diagnostic tools are light years ahead of their times. It doesn't matter what medicine was able to diagnose during Jefferson's time. He isn't running for president in 2008, McCain is, and his cancer remains a big concern to me. After all, we're not talking about a nosebleed - we're talking about a candidate with a potentially fatal disease. quote:
F. Roosevelt had polio, which was not usually fatal, but sometimes was. He hid it from the public. He had it before he became president. I know that. I cited it above.
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RE: McCain's Health Concerns - 8/5/2008 11:05:16 AM
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Jhud
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F. Roosevelt had polio, which was not usually fatal, but sometimes was. He hid it from the public. He had it before he became president. Not only that, but he was increasingly frail during his last term, and died in office.
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RE: McCain's Health Concerns - 8/5/2008 12:14:36 PM
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Your list was certainly detailed, yet no substantiated incidents of cancer diagnosed before a president got into office are cited which is what McCain has a history of. Illnesses which struck during a president's term are also not what I asked for. Actually if you go to to the links I provided and read some of that stuff you'll find that most if not all of these guys tried to hide their illnesses prior to election. Also, most candidates don't even realease their medical history as McCain did. Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, released 1,173 pages of personal medical records this week. Such candor in politicians is a recent development. NEWSWEEK: John McCain has been candid about his health. Does that represent a break with the past? Jerrold Post: There has been increasing pressure for candidates to reveal information that was once considered a personal matter. Today, you have to give up that privacy to run for the highest office. But even in recent years, not all candidates have been that honest. I'm thinking of Sen. Paul Tsongas, who competed against Bill Clinton to be the Democratic nominee in 1992. That was a cover-up. He indicated that he had had non-Hodgkins lymphoma. He and his doctor attested that, because of his bone-marrow transplant, his prognosis was as good as anyone else's. But at the time the statement was made, he had already had a recurrence of the cancer that wasn't made public. That kind of information needs to be revealed. I guess Franklin Roosevelt would be the most famous example of a president who concealed information about his health. His polio was well known—and it humanized this aristocratic man—but the press was respectful. There were only two or three pictures of him in a wheelchair. What wasn't so well known was how ill he was when he went to the Teheran summit with Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin in 1943. He came back quite ill. The White House doctor, [Vice] Admiral Ross McIntire, directed cardiologist Howard Bruenn, a Navy [lieutenant] commander, to examine Roosevelt. Bruenn was alarmed at the gravity of Roosevelt's illness. He diagnosed congestive heart failure, hypertension, acute bronchitis and longstanding pulmonary disease. McIntire told Bruenn, you must not tell the president and his family the extent of his illness, and you certainly cannot tell the American public. President Kennedy had Addison's disease. Yes, but it was only in Robert Dallek's 2003 biography of John Kennedy that we learned the extent of Kennedy's illnesses, which he concealed and which his family continued to conceal after he was assassinated—colitis, duodenal ulcers, osteoporosis and Addison's disease, which is a life-threatening insufficiency of the adrenal glands, requiring twice daily steroids. Picture of Health
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RE: McCain's Health Concerns - 8/5/2008 12:32:05 PM
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ORIGINAL: todd_t quote:
Cancer wasn't even known for many of our President's lives and medical diagnostic tools are light years ahead of their times. It doesn't matter what medicine was able to diagnose during Jefferson's time. He isn't running for president in 2008, McCain is, and his cancer remains a big concern to me. After all, we're not talking about a nosebleed - we're talking about a candidate with a potentially fatal disease. quote:
F. Roosevelt had polio, which was not usually fatal, but sometimes was. He hid it from the public. He had it before he became president. I know that. I cited it above. I've not noticed your hand wringing over Kerry's cancer surgery.
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RE: McCain's Health Concerns - 8/5/2008 1:41:05 PM
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todd_t
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I stand corrected, thanks. I had no idea about John Kerry's bout with prostate cancer, or that his father had died of it.
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