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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 12:38:12 AM
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Brandy
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yes and yes.
His system has to adjust to what you are putting into it.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 12:41:33 AM
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About the diaper bag, and keeping a box of stuff in the car ... I carry minimal stuff in a diaper bag, but I do keep a bunch of stuff in the van (extra outfits, lots of diapers, etc). A point to keep in mind (from personal experience) ... don't keep wipes or pre-made/ready to feed formula in the vehicle during the winter -- they freeze!! (My tiny pack of wipes ran out one winter day and I had to try to rapid-thaw the big container of wipes ... not fun!)
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 8:29:52 AM
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manda59
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solids: is it normal for the amount of poo to increase dramatically? healthy but in quantity & frequency?
Oh yes, especially with some starchy things, eg rice. You'll especially notice the difference because he is breastfed, and breastmilk is digested so easily.
I know you went for 1 tablespoonful right away, and he loved it, but that's why I suggested starting with just 1 teaspoonful - to ease him into it.
But I am sure Jadon will adapt and be fine, if his poo looks healthy and is the right consistency etc.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 9:07:39 AM
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Sideways
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solids: is it normal for the amount of poo to increase dramatically? healthy but in quantity & frequency?
Wait till he starts eating corn on the cob (it'll happen sooner then you think). Nathan looks pretty cute chowing down on his cob, but I don't look forward to the diapers!
Nathan did sleep better last night with the decongestant, but his nose is still running like a faucet.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 10:07:38 AM
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Maybe the long nap David took yesterday was not such a good thing after all. He didn't fall asleep last night until 1:00!! Then he woke up at 3:30, ate, and was up until 5:00. I'm tired.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 10:10:36 AM
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It's allergy season here. YAY for decongestant and antihistamines!
Jae, what does Jadon do when you try to get him in his bed? I totally understand the need to cosleep at times, but also think if Jason doesn't like it, you probably need to try to get him in his own bed. Does he take a real pacifier?
Esther slept all night last night. Midnight to 5:30...close enough to all night for me! LOL She was wide awake at 5:30, but was content to gnaw on her hands in bed next to me while I went back to sleep. I'm so glad I didn't get another "Hannah". I was very worried about that. 
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 10:26:48 AM
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He sounds a lot like Hannah. I'm not sure how to explain it to Jason, except to tell him there are other babies like that. And it doesn't last forever, though it may last for most of his first couple years. 
(((((((((((((((((Jae)))))))))))))))))) It's hard, but you'll make it through. I did.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 10:46:33 AM
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LOL...true! And NONE of my other kids were even close to as needy as Hannah was.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 11:29:05 AM
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He will take his passy to go to sleep, but spits it out once he's asleep. He doesn't use it/care for it to "Passify" him any other part of the day/night. Jadon just doesn't snuggle unless he's in a deep sleep. He wakes up every two hours rooting, but then sucks for a few minutes and goes to sleep. It's his comforter vs. his "food". He doesn't view the passifier as the same comforter. I wish he did.
how are you giving it to him during the day? Is it during a "cuddly" time, and if so are you still cuddling him or are you trying to comfort him other ways then that?
As for the stubborn baby...I totally agree with Donna....btdt with our Hannah too.....and I just want to say that our's like this is THE BEST sleeper now out of our five...so don't think you are doomed for life. She was like that for the first three years of her life....probably could have been less but living situations at the time required basically that she had no other place to sleep but our bed for those first three years. Jackson is a lot like her, and he is turning out to be like her in sleep too...only we were able to get him out of our bed much sooner (by 2yo) and his sleep since has settled down dramatically. It could have been by 18mo, but I was pregnant and so Paul took over bed time....and it was going fine until Paul's surgery when he was home for 6 weeks...he changed the way he put him down and messed it all up, so I had to take back over with bedtime and start all over again. (I am not advocating this method with a baby your son's age, remember Jack is 2yo now...but.....) You may remember a few months ago when I posted about having to let him scream in his crib for nap that day......well, the result of that was, he cried for nearly three hours that day, but it broke him. The next day at nap time he cried for 15 minutes (not really crying as much as just making noise). By day four he was down to just a five minute "noise time"...and by day five he went down without so much as a whimper. After three or so weeks of consistency with nap time and method, I again took over bedtime, doing the same routine but adding in a night light that we turn on. The first night he cried for about 30 minutes, but he didn't scream...just cried. Now he goes to bed most nights without any noise at all (some nights he will "talk" himself to sleep). His sleep is now much more managable for us and our lifestyle....but for the first two years we had to just wait it out and get him to the point of being able to handle it. (Like I said, he could have done this by 18mo, but life changed when Paul had his surgery).
Anyway, just wanted to throw it out there to you that Jadon sounds an awful lot like Jackson (and Hannah) was at that age....so I wouldn't doubt if he will turn into a really good sleeper within this next year of his life. Just try to have some patience because right now he is still a baby....just wait til he is a toddler and can handle things a little better, and I bet you he will amaze you!!!!
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 12:38:31 PM
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He will take his passy to go to sleep, but spits it out once he's asleep. He doesn't use it/care for it to "Passify" him any other part of the day/night. Jadon just doesn't snuggle unless he's in a deep sleep. He wakes up every two hours rooting, but then sucks for a few minutes and goes to sleep. It's his comforter vs. his "food". He doesn't view the passifier as the same comforter. I wish he did.
He likely would if you persisted in giving it to him. I used to put a dob of herbal teething gel on the dummy, or baby toothpaste, and that would occupy mine long enough to get them back to sleep again.
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B. I'm on the couch belly down with a passy in his mouth on his boppy bouncing my legs, patting his back, and holding his hand. That's the only way he'll sleep.
It isn't, it's just that right now you don't have the patience to teach him any other way. That's totally fine, if it's where you're at, but IMO it's not that he won't sleep any other way, it's just that you give in (which I totally understand - if we're stressed, it's easier to take the easy way out)
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It's been this way before teething started.  I don't feel equiped to change it because he seems far more stubborn than I am - especially in the middle of the night.
Well that's the thing. Wait till you feel more inclined to be more firm with him and then try again.
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During the day he'll wake up in his crib and cry until I pick him up and do letter B. He won't relax any other way.
I'm confused here - if he wakes in his crib why do you try to make him go back to sleep again? Sounds to me like he's had enough sleep and that it's time for sleep time to be over.
At night, are you always starting him off asleep in his crib?
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 12:45:25 PM
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Jae, Jimmy is the same way, a middle of the night comfort nurser. One thing I am trying is bringing a lovey into our nursing relationship. It's a frog blanket with a big round soft head. I'm hoping Jimmy will be become attached to it, and that it will replace my boobs. Have you thought of getting a small lovey, like those tiny little blankets with a stuffed animal head? He's 6 months now, yeah? SIDS risk is greatly reduced.
I tried a sippy cup of water, but since Jimmy is so prone to ear infections, I don't want him drinking flat in the middle of the night.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 1:17:59 PM
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I think Manda had some really good advice, Jae. Sometimes it does take a bit of "tough love" to persevere and get a baby to accept a new way of comforting himself and putting himself to sleep. But it has to be when you feel ready to do that.
At his age, it's not wrong to try and mold him to a new way of sleeping, but neither is it wrong to keep giving in to him if that's what you feel is best.
Nathan is napping now, he was so tired this morning. He didn't have much appetite, and sometimes I can hear his ragged breathing through the baby monitor. We gave him medicine again today to help him have a restful nap. Yesterday's nap was not great, his congestion kept him from sleeping well. Poor little guy.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 2:22:08 PM
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I don't think a child has to be 2 years old before they stop using Mom's breasts for a pacifier. I also don't think it's wrong to at least attempt to get the child used to a pacifier or a lovey.
Jae doesn't strike me as the kind of mom who would just turn her back on her boy and let him scream for hours on end without comforting him. So, at least trying alternative means of comfort is completely reasonable and acceptable for a six month old. If it doesn't work, then Jae is smart enough to realize that, but I'd be pretty tired too if I were Jae.
Sometimes a mom has to try and do something for herself, to make her life better. If she gives 100% to her baby, what does she have left to give to her husband, her God, her Church or (and I know this is blasphemy) but what will she have for herself if she gives and gives and gives without even trying to improve a difficult situation with her baby?
ETA: Upon rereading this post I see it comes off a little harsh, and I didn't mean it to be. So, I'm sorry Sarah. I disagree that Jae is wanting a toddler, not the older baby she has, and I think it is reasonable for her to try different ideas like she is doing and seeing what works for her.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 2:44:55 PM
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Jae, you might try putting the lovey in between you and Jadon when you are nursing, especially when you think he is comfort nursing. Just tuck it in between you...maybe rub the softness on his cheek too if that doesn't distract him from nursing. You want him to associate those cuddly times with the lovey, so that maybe the lovey will help him self-comfort.
Might not work, but it's worth a try anyway.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 9/6/2008 3:11:36 PM
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manda59
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I disagree that Jae is wanting a toddler, not the older baby she has, and I think it is reasonable for her to try different ideas like she is doing and seeing what works for her.
I agree with Ruth.
I also don't see any problem with Janine trying to see if Jadon can be taught other ways of being comforted and getting to sleep.
Especially since her husband wants the cosleeping to be drawing to an end.
I think it's important that we respect his wishes in this. I am sure he won't just insist on Jadon suddenly sleeping elsewhere, but it will probably be helpful to him if he sees steps being made/tried to see if they will work.
It's not only toddlers that can learn to sleep alone, babies can too.
And it doesn't have to mean them being left to cry either. I didn't ever leave mine to cry if they woke at night - but I didn't cosleep either. It meant being persistent and consistent (and dredging up the energy to be so!) but it worked.
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