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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/8/2008 4:12:04 PM
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For anyone who needs a laugh today:
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/8/2008 4:19:12 PM
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Aww too cute, Yolanda! I love baby laughs!
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/8/2008 7:30:20 PM
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nicole6598
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Yolanda Chase is so gorgeous! He is only a few weeks older than Nath but to me he looks way older!
Thanks Ruth, I hate the sound of my voice, but I suppose an aussie accent makes it sound ok to you guys :)
Thanks Nicole (emily) and Kim :)
Nath slept 5 hours straight last night!!! WOO HOO!!! Not sure if that is because he seems to have woken with Grace's cold or not. But I feel so much better today for that bit of sleep!
Jen- I will see what the paed is like on wed. I didn't give nath any wheat yesterday, although I ate some, he didn't seem to have much trouble with the wind. Like I said though, I will eat wheat today and then tomorrow I won't, but I won't give him any for a few days see if it helps. Thanks so much for your suggestions, I may be calling on you more :)
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/8/2008 7:34:00 PM
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Nicole - I was just reading something I thought you might want to hear. I know earlier we were talking about eating beans for protein and you were worried it would make Nath gassy. Apparently if you boil a few bay leaves in with the beans, it makes them not gassy. Thought I'd pass that along.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/8/2008 7:35:25 PM
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I usually throw in a tbsp of baking soda - it works pretty well too.
BTW, congrats on 5 hours of sleep!
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 6:41:12 PM
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nicole6598
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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
nath was TERRIBLE! just terrible last night. He screamed for like over an hour, it was after midnight before he went down, he passed wind a few times. I don't know now whether it is the dairy? What would you do? Should I go off the dairy again? I just don't know what I should be doing, I just kept crying and crying. I have a cold, and he does too. My husband was less than nice about it all, Telling me that he was hungry (i had just fed him) and saying tomorrow he is going on the bottle full.stop. Hubby was really mean and I saw sides of him I didnt like at all. He slept in the lounge. So I have that to contend with to. I just want this to be over.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:07:04 PM
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Nicole, I'm going to be the heretic here and suggest you strongly consider weaning. Your whole family is being made miserable by this and it's been going on for many months. You aren't just Nath's mother, you are Grace's mother, too and your husband's wife. Plus, you have a right to think of yourself, too, and being excited by 5 hours of sleep shows just how sleep deprived you are for the mother of an 11 month old.
I agree that your husband is being a bit of a jerk, but something has to give. There are other ways of finding out what Nath is allergic to and so far cutting out dairy and soy hasn't shown conclusive results.
Nath isn't an infant anymore, and you've given him a great start in life. BFing is not some holy grail of motherhood; it's not a competition to see how long you can nurse, and by 11 months you've already nursed longer then most women anyhow.
So I can be kicked out of the Moo Club for this, but ... it sounds like it's time to try something else besides BFing.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:11:21 PM
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thanks ruth, I just don't know what to do. If i posted what hubby really did to me I would be so embarrassed. I dont have his support at all.
I dont have any support here. I havenb't been to church in 6 weeks and noone has called to see how I am. And these are people who say they are like my family, my friends. my pastor hasn't checked on me or his wife (she is my friend).
I have been giving him some rice milk for one day time feed. but maybe the dairy is bothering him seeing he was like crazy screaming like he used to last night. I just don't.know.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:12:12 PM
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quote:
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Nicole, I'm going to be the heretic here and suggest you strongly consider weaning. Your whole family is being made miserable by this and it's been going on for many months. You aren't just Nath's mother, you are Grace's mother, too and your husband's wife. Plus, you have a right to think of yourself, too, and being excited by 5 hours of sleep shows just how sleep deprived you are for the mother of an 11 month old.
I agree that your husband is being a bit of a jerk, but something has to give. There are other ways of finding out what Nath is allergic to and so far cutting out dairy and soy hasn't shown conclusive results.
Nath isn't an infant anymore, and you've given him a great start in life. BFing is not some holy grail of motherhood; it's not a competition to see how long you can nurse, and by 11 months you've already nursed longer then most women anyhow.
So I can be kicked out of the Moo Club for this, but ... it sounds like it's time to try something else besides BFing.
I AGREE. Completely. With every word.
My third was much like your Nath. VERY MUCH. I quit bf'ding after 5 months, I got pregnant with Isaiah and the stress was just too much. I highly admire you for hanging in there...I truly do. You have had a horrible year. NO ONE would blame you for moving on.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:13:16 PM
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I know I don't post much but I do read this thread.. and I am going to have to agree with weaning... I think you have done an AMAZING job so far with battling bf with all those problems! do yourself a favour and stop putting so much pressure on yourself that is just not needed! to have bf this long already is fantastice......Its time you enjoy your son and your whole family...formula is not bad at all...and again..YOU HAVE STUCK WITH IT SO LONG DESPITE ALL THE ISSUES YOU HAVE HAD!.. I take my hat off for you!
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:14:14 PM
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nicole6598
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but do I put him on formula? what if that makes him worse?
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:16:12 PM
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Nicole, I just PM'd you ...
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:20:38 PM
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If anyone is interested (for current or future reference) -- since Ryanne is on vacation and my guys are the same way -- the only two soy and milk free formulas are Alimentum by Similac, and Nutramigen by Enfamil. But be warned ... they are highly expensive (I don't know the WIC program, since I'm in Canada ... don't know if WIC would cover them) They are around double the cost of regular formula.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:23:54 PM
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TheEgyptianPrincess
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yes formula... there is soy formula which you could use and it would only be for a little while before you could give him real milk.. isn't after a year that you could give cow's milk.. or soy milk (I gave my son soy milk cause he had issues with cow's milk) At that age they get most of their meals from solids i think and a smaller amount of milk. Also if he wakes up at night give me water or camomile tea... he will soon learn not to wake up as it won't be fullfilling for him anymore.
really.. you are a champ you know that right?
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:37:43 PM
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nicole6598
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i think there is one brand of allergy free formula that I saw a few months back. I don't recall looking for soy formula, although its bound to be there.
I am just afraid he won't take it and then that will make me feel even worse. Then it also shows my hubby that he was right and I am wrong. he will lap that up.
I can't even remember how to wean! Would I just offer him like one feed during the day? How much should he be getting anway? he has about 6-7 breastfeeds and 3 meals.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 7:57:48 PM
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Then it also shows my hubby that he was right and I am wrong. he will lap that up.
Well, sometimes our husbands are right and we are wrong. Unfortunately, you happen to be married to a grown man who will act like a child about it. But this isn't about proving your husband wrong or right; it's about doing what's best for you and your whole family. And maybe formula/soy milk is best.
It's not like you're gearing up to feed an infant formula for a whole year. He'll be eating more and more solids and less milk anyhow at this point. Someone on this forum has said before that a toddler should still be getting like 75%-90% of their calories from milk/formula, but I've never seen any research to back that up, and I know many toddlers who aren't getting anywhere close to that much of their calories from milk/formula.
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RE: Baby Chat (take 4) - 8/9/2008 8:26:46 PM
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nicole6598
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Ruth I didn't mean to say that I don't want to try the bottle just so that I am right. Its a long story, hubby is very very adamant that for all these months I have been doing the wrong thing by Nath, I was only following suggestions made on here, and some things I had read on the net. Anyway I don't want people to think I don't want to do the best thing for my baby to spite my husband. I was just mentioning that its another thing I will have to put up with and things between me and hubby are not looking so good at the moment.
Ruth I didn't get that whole figure about the calories either....
so kara is going to help me go through a diary of what he and I are eating. So maybe I will keep breastfeeding for like 72 hours and then try soy milk. Sandy he is almost 11 months so I guess real soy milk won't hurt him, he does get solids too. so I might try eating normal and journal what happens and then start to wean maybe. I see the paed on wednesday.
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