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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/21/2008 5:00:34 PM   
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A promise ring is not an engagement ring...Funny, you asked God for help and yet this full page letter you've written...your girlfriend is giving you signs to move on...You are in a relationship that you do not want to get out of...why are you asking for advice...The two of you needs counseling...if she does not want counseling...then you have a choice...be the fool she thinks that you are or get out.

Outside of the other stuff she has done or not done...The main issue is that she is consistently referring herself to your ex...and that is not going to go away....she has too many insecurities..issues about the ex should not be entering between the two of you...

As to your fasting....you are fasting for the wrong answer...God is not going to give you patience to endure the abuse...You are really off base on this...and especially since the two of you are living together and not married...So you want God to help you while you remain in your livinging acting likt the two of you are married. Make up your mind who you are serving your girlfriend or God..

So the way I see it both of you need counseling because both of you has insecurities issues to start with...
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/21/2008 5:10:20 PM   
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I'm still unclear on how this woman is abusive? Exactly what is she doing that is abusive? Maybe I missed something?
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/21/2008 7:24:42 PM   
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You need to read his long letter...it more of her insecurities towards him and how she is acting....read the section under southernbellegrits
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 12:07:36 AM   
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I'm sorry I was so brash with what I posted earlier. But...... there are always two sides to every story. Everyone was/is so quick to assume this man is in an abusive relationship. However his letter to his girlfriend suggests otherswise to me. He seems to be in a DISFUNCTIONAL relationship but be careful using the word abuse because that word holds great weight in this world.
I pray you will seek your girlfriend with an open heart and desire to really KNOW her. While others are suggesting a separation I cannot say what is best for you two. Only you can answer that question, but if you desire to stay with her then you have to take responsiblity for your life. If your girlfriend gets angry or sad with some of your choices then she has to accept her feelings. Do not take on the feelings of your girlfriend. Let her sit with them and do what you need to do. If you have to be at work a certain time then make damn sure you are there. If you can drive then you take the car. After reading your posts I assume she doesn't work outside of the home. If she has a problem with that then tell her you can't rely on her to get you there when you need to be so you have to take the car. It's the truth. Don't aplogize for doing your job. Validate her feelings but do not enable her and then you blame her for everything that is going wrong in your life.
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 12:51:09 AM   
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I appreciate your comments. Some of you may have been misinterpretting the issues I brought up. Please read my clarification message on 7/19 @ 2:40pm.

In addition, I initially gave a promise ring because we were having problems, I wanted to ensure to her that I was sticking around, and want things to work between us. She threw this ring away.

Later, I did engage to her, and gave her an engagement ring.

As to the driving and stuff, keep in mind I had an accident in December of last year, where my femur broke, thus I couldn't drive, and needed to depend on her for this. Hence why those points came up.

Thanks,

jcd
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 11:53:06 AM   
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I'm sorry--what was the good part of this relationship?

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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 11:57:51 AM   
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In addition, I initially gave a promise ring because we were having problems, I wanted to ensure to her that I was sticking around, and want things to work between us. She threw this ring away.


Problem # ???

You don't turn the fire UP under a pot boiling over.

If there were problems, making a "promise" was the last thing you needed to do. A step back would have made more sense.
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 12:57:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: preserved

You need to read his long letter...it more of her insecurities towards him and how she is acting....read the section under southernbellegrits




I read that entire letter and still fail to see where the woman is actually abusive. Just thought I might've missed something since it was so long. If there is abuse going on it looks more like it's going both ways. Either way you look at it the relationship is very unhealthy.
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/22/2008 9:59:59 PM   
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I always feel I need to be proving my love to you, and it just doesn’t stop. And yet it’s never enough. You have become a real drain on me, and make me feel as though it’s just never enough, and I just can’t make you happy, therefore I must settle for a life of misery. Why?
• When your friends speak of me, you never stand up for me, instead you agree that I’m an as*hole, what kind of **** is that. I always stand up for you, always!
• Every person in the world expresses their love in their own ways, and it’s up to their partners to be smart enough to analyze their partner and learn their ways of expressing their love, or how they are when their sad, upset, and so forth. For crying out loud, I go out and always try to make things special for you, and romantic. You have even felt sad as to how some of your friends, don’t have the luxury of having a guy like me in their life, and thus must settle. Problem here is why do I need to settle? If I am so good to you, why do you treat me how you do?


This is a partial quote form the closed thread "RelationShip Help". Sounds abusive to me!

But the most abusive part is her sleeping with him while claiming that she is a Christian, being unhappy when he goes to church/Emmaus, and then she and her family rejecting him because he wasn't a Christian. That is an abuse of her relationship with Jesus and of her position as an ambassador of Christ.

She is not in any condition to marry anyone that I can see, regardless of whether her (unsaved) partner is all he could be.

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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/23/2008 6:10:50 AM   
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jcd, you do NOT want to start a marriage off this way. She may have issues but in your relationship with her there are TWO people, she's not in it alone! I STRONGLY believe that you should change your living arrangement, perhaps doing so will change both of your perspectives...for the good!
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/23/2008 12:26:18 PM   
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Sweetie, it sounds to me like you're trying to fix something that you didn't break, and that she expects you to heal wounds inside her that aren't yours to heal.

I know this is painful after all the time and effort you've put into the relationship, but you need to leave. Marriage at this point isn't even an option because the issues you're dealing with WILL get exponentially worse after the nuptuals.

This relationship is toxic for both of you....

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ORIGINAL: jcd777

I appreciate your comments. Some of you may have been misinterpretting the issues I brought up. Please read my clarification message on 7/19 @ 2:40pm.

In addition, I initially gave a promise ring because we were having problems, I wanted to ensure to her that I was sticking around, and want things to work between us. She threw this ring away.

Later, I did engage to her, and gave her an engagement ring.

As to the driving and stuff, keep in mind I had an accident in December of last year, where my femur broke, thus I couldn't drive, and needed to depend on her for this. Hence why those points came up.

Thanks,

jcd


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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/25/2008 3:11:22 PM   
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I know you had said that you both were trying to stop doing things not pleasing to God, well stop sleeping togther and don't just draw the line at sex, fooling around is sin too...and I know that after you have done things it is hard to stop but you can do it and God will help you through it. Start by finding you a place of your own. Then find a good church to go to, its good place to learn more about God and grow in His word. Both of you need to focus on your relationship with God. before you can focus on the relationship you have with each other. If God is not in your relationship it makes life tough and yes life is tough but when God is in your relationship you can make it through the hard times.

If you really truely want the relationship to work, she must be willing to make it work as well, so if both of you are willing I would get some consouling from a preacher. Other wise you need to let go and move on with your life because the problems and issues will only get worse.


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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 7/28/2008 8:52:12 AM   
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Follow what the Scriptures say about living together before being married. The Scriptures also speak about not remarrying when the former spouse is still living.
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 8/1/2008 11:01:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fluffmonkey

I know you had said that you both were trying to stop doing things not pleasing to God, well stop sleeping togther and don't just draw the line at sex, fooling around is sin too...and I know that after you have done things it is hard to stop but you can do it and God will help you through it. Start by finding you a place of your own. Then find a good church to go to, its good place to learn more about God and grow in His word. Both of you need to focus on your relationship with God. before you can focus on the relationship you have with each other. If God is not in your relationship it makes life tough and yes life is tough but when God is in your relationship you can make it through the hard times.

If you really truely want the relationship to work, she must be willing to make it work as well, so if both of you are willing I would get some consouling from a preacher. Other wise you need to let go and move on with your life because the problems and issues will only get worse.


Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
Matthew 6:34

Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your request be made known to God; and the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.
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Wow--good answer!!!!

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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 8/2/2008 8:59:33 PM   
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You should be happy you didnt marry her. Just imagine of you was her husband.....it would be much harder to remove yourself from this situation. Praise God that you are seeing her true colors......
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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 8/4/2008 12:47:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dakotasunbeam

But I think you have gotten your answer from God . . . you prayed, you fasted: she changed your status from "marriage-bound" to "in a relationship."

And how would you describe that relationship? Abusive, insecure, scarey. Those don't sound like anything that resemble the heart of God.

God did answer you, it just may not be the answer you want to hear.

You are currently in an abusive, insecure and scarey relationship. The Bible says perfect love casts out all fear--and yet you have an abundance of fear. Flee while you can, and draw near to God. Quite frankly, my friend, marriage is a lifetime covenant between you, a spouse and God. It is a vow between you and God. My best advice would be to reconcile with your first wife. Get away from this current woman, repent of your relationship and Live for Him. Go back to the wife of your youth, it may be that God will be gracious and restore what you lost.

God has answered your prayer. Now its time for you to flee this situation before it gets any worste. God has given you a way out. Take it. He will be with you.


I would have to second this. Get back with your first wife.

Your sister in Christ Jesus,
Jessica

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RE: Cancelling Engagement - 8/4/2008 1:29:08 PM   
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I have to say that whatever you decide to do is your choice, but here's the thing that I have learnt being engaged before. Is it worth feeling bad cause they feel bad, and is all their problems and insecurity your burden to bear. Is your life really worth self sacrifice to appease someone. Its supposed to be easy and fall into place. I will not move in with anyone before I'm married, its a joke of a commitment. If she threw the promise ring away, you need to walk away! Be done with her, this is not healthy and you will feel so much better once its done and over. Trust me been there 2 times before. True colors shined through its God talking to you telling you better check up before you wreck your life. Its your life, Live through God to get to God. He will provide the stepping stones and direction, just have to be smart enough to read the signs, and make decisions for the best of you, spiritually and mentally. Do things according to his word and you will get so much farther in life and feel like the weight of the world isn't holding your soul down!
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