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The Dark Knight - 7/8/2008 2:19:22 PM
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todd_t
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So far, the advance buzz (especially surrounding Heath Ledger's performance as The Joker) on this film is off-the-charts. And while I'm hoping it isn't overblown, I haven't looked forward to seeing a movie such as "TDK" in a long time.
It's near three-hour run time is no big deal to me; if the movie is as good as foretold, it can run all day long for all I care.
Otherwise, any thoughts (before and after seeing "TDK")? What elements of the movie are you looking forward to the most?
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/8/2008 2:43:48 PM
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im just excited for the movie in general. i love batman, hes awesome. in the last batman movie christian bale made a perfect batman, so im excited to see him in this one too. if i can manage, im definitely going to see it when its out.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/13/2008 3:35:17 AM
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Can't say I'm that excited about it... the last one was good but meh, I though Batman and Batman Returns were better IMO. Much more comic book and visually stunning. This one does look better than Begins but I'm not uber excited about it. Though I haven't been really excited about any movie recently that I can think of.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/13/2008 4:53:38 AM
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IMNSHO, Burton's films were too campy. Nolan has perfectly captured the essence of The Bat, going back to the graphic novel source material. :cool: Furthermore, Christian Bale can act circles around Michael Keaton. And the supporting cast of the most recent flicks totally owns the previous casts. Not even close.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/13/2008 8:51:22 AM
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IMNSHO, Burton's films were too campy. Nolan has perfectly captured the essence of The Bat, going back to the graphic novel source material. :cool: Furthermore, Christian Bale can act circles around Michael Keaton. And the supporting cast of the most recent flicks totally owns the previous casts. Not even close.
Well, yes, Burtons had dark/gloomy humor which I liked. Wouldn't really call it camp. When I think camp, I think Batman Forever or even worse... As for the cast... the new cast was extremely good but they're still upstaged by Michelle Pfeiffer, Christopher Walken and Jack Nicolson. They were pure gold in their roles. Though Heathe Ledger as the Joker does look amazing.
Also... Elfman runs circles around Zimmer and Howards.
Anyway, as movies themselves, they really can't be compared since the focus of both directors is totally different. But I prefer Burtons darker, stylized, gothic and wickedly fun vision as opposed to Nolans more realistic, serious and somber approach... and thats the way the cookie crumbles.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/13/2008 9:29:41 PM
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Disagree with about everything you wrote. Elfman can't touch Newton/Zimmer (for Batman music anyhoo...unfamiliar with any other works these respective composers have created). Heath Ledger's Joker will make Jack Nicholson's resemble Pee-Wee Herman. The current cast is less freakish (think Christopher Walken as Max Zorin), and more grounded in reality.
In short, Christopher Nolan > Tim Burton in the Batman department.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/14/2008 7:58:01 AM
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going back to the graphic novel source material. You mean "comic book?" The original comic book Batman was indeed a dark figure, a vigilante looking for the organized crime people involved in his parents' murder. The villians we associate with him; Joker, Riddler, Penguin, etc, were from a later "campy" version of the Bat. (50s and 60s?)
In the 40s they were called "comic books" even if they were not funny, not graphic novels.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/14/2008 5:21:18 PM
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No, Dave...there have been graphic novels released since then, ones that Nolan culled as source material for the latest Dark Knight flicks. (In fact, if I remember correctly, "The Dark Knight" was one of them.)
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/14/2008 6:50:05 PM
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i thought every other batman movie was abysmal. . . but i still have high hopes for this one.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/15/2008 11:36:00 AM
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I get to see it on Monday! My mom is coming out for a visit so she will watch Jessica while I go see my first movie in a theater since having her. I loved Batman Begins so TDK should be awesome.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/15/2008 9:44:32 PM
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No, Dave...there have been graphic novels released since then, ones that Nolan culled as source material for the latest Dark Knight flicks. (In fact, if I remember correctly, "The Dark Knight" was one of them.)
Actually, Chris Nolan gave Heath Ledger and other cast members a copy of "The Killing Joke" to read before filming as a character reference. IMO, it's the best Batman story ever written.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/16/2008 6:21:31 PM
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Notice that I said "flicks," as in "more than one film." There have been at least two GNs involved, including Year One also.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/16/2008 7:36:54 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Batman & Robin w/ Uma Thurman and The Governator was a really fun movie? I get a kick out of that movie whenever it comes on, and I probably overuse Ah-nohld's line, "Chill out!".
Batman Begins was a fantastic continuation of of the brand, and The Dark Knight will be great, but Tim Burton's Batman is simply classic. Jack Nicholson made a phenomenal Joker, and though Heath Ledger has turned in a top notch performance, his take on the character cannot surpass Jack's outstanding performance. I am sure at the end of the day Ledger's performance will be given unwarranted bonus points due to it being his "fateful last performance", but Nicholson owns the character of the Joker.
As far as musical score goes, Elfman's work on Burton's Batman was outstanding. Not John Williams Star Wars good, but good enough that I eagerly bought the score after seeing the movie. I don't know enough about the new composers to make a valid judgment, but Elfman's work was top notch.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/16/2008 9:16:10 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks Batman & Robin w/ Uma Thurman and The Governator was a really fun movie?
Probably, yes.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/16/2008 10:56:49 PM
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When we were in town I saw theaters advertising a midnight showing of The Dark knight tomorrow. Wow I did not know that there were people who would stay up until 3 am watching a movie. I would be so disappointed when I woke up and realized I just slept through the movie. By 11 o'clock at night I am pretty much done for these days.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/17/2008 11:18:17 AM
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Wow I did not know that there were people who would stay up until 3 am watching a movie. I would be so disappointed when I woke up and realized I just slept through the movie.
I agree. This is why I usually don't go to midnight shows. I'd rather go the following day when I know I'll be awake and able to follow the plot.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/17/2008 2:25:42 PM
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Actually, you can reverse the above statement on midnight shows for me in this case. I just read Roger Ebert's review "TDK" (below) and that cinched it for me.
I went online and got a ticket for 12:01 tonight; I really want to see this flick.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 3:57:37 AM
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I just saw the film. It was everything anyone thought it would be.
Eckhardt was amazing. Ledger even more so.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 7:38:54 AM
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I'm not usually into this type of film, but I am definitely seeing this one, probably next week, since i work the night shift all weekend. There are so many people in it I like and I have to admit, I do want to see heath ledger the most, since there has been so much buzz about his performance. I am not sure about a long running time--I will have to restrict my liquids somewhat.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 6:03:25 PM
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TDK rules all. Go see it--now.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 7:10:30 PM
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I was going to wait to see it, but my nephew texted asking to see it w/ me. Since I rarely hear from him, I went online and got the tix. (I was afraid they'd be sold out b/c I read that 94% of available tix for this weekend had already been bought out.) We'll be seeing it at 2:30p on Saturday.
I am sure it will be a good movie, though I believe there is too much hype about Heath Ledger's "Joker". I wonder if critics have given this a fair review. OSCAR NOMINATION?? Wouldn't that be a FIRST for a comic book movie?
I remember people telling me how they felt unclean after seeing Jack Nicholson's "Joker" for the first time in theaters. I have a feeling this version will be darker. I know it's a comic book movie, but I've heard they strived to make it somewhat realistic...like in an actual, everyday, city setting. I kinda like the feel of that. That's what I'd like about the new one if it's there.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 7:39:09 PM
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I considered seeing this movie, looks neat and all, but, after reading a review of it, I cannot see it. God's name is abused. I can't pay money to hear/see the name of the Lord abused.
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RE: The Dark Knight - 7/18/2008 8:08:21 PM
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I just finished watching it. It was darker and grittier than the last one. It was also very, very good. I don't want to give any of it away but if you saw the History Channel show on Batman last week, you would know what the plotline is about. They interviewed 4 or 5 psychiatrists. They talked of the emotional interplay of Batman and his villains. Batman's inner struggles. It was enlightening. It also turned into a talk about the morality of Batman. This Batman is a morality play as was the last one.
Here are a couple of books mentioned in the History Channel show.
Wisdom from the Batcave
Batman and Philosophy: The Dark Knight of the Soul
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