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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:11:34 PM
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Roberta_
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This is going to sound incredibly silly, but I always loved back to school shopping. I struggled with making friends, especially in American schools, but I was a strong student. But new supplies and clothes were always fun. I find myself looking forward to it someday with my kids. 
My 3 year old niece is starting 3-K in August, and I'm pretty astonished at the list her Christian school sent out as required supplies. In addition to tuition they have to buy a bunch of stuff for her, plus contribute money to classroom art supplies.
It does amaze me at how much the schools don't provide. Any school, public or private.
I remember my parents would take us shopping for school clothes. We'd get 5 shirts/blouses, 2 pairs of pants, 1 or 2 dresses/skirts for us girls, tennis shoes, socks and undergarments. Now it seems like parents buy those every season for their children.
For school supplies, I think it was up until 7th grade we only needed crayons, pencils, binder and paper. Then once we got to 7th grade we didn't need the crayons, but we needed folders and spiral notebooks. I think if we took art classes we needed more items, but I'm not sure. I took choir, drama and guitar and the school provided a guitar for class.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:13:28 PM
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zoebob
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the pencils are plastic and have standard and metric on them
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:17:05 PM
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Roberta_
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Oh, and for Christmas and birthdays we got clothes too- so that helped with the clothing budget. My younger brother is the only one who didn't get clothes for his birthday, but that was because he was hard to fit and his birthday is right before school starts. My sister's is right before Christmas and myself and my older brother's are right after Christmas, so that took care of our winter wardrobes.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:20:19 PM
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zoebob
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One brothr and I had August birthdays so we would get clothes we might need to start school for our birhtdays and then we all got more clothes we might need for Christmas. We also only got clothes when we needed them...not a new wardrobe just because school was starting.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:25:50 PM
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Roberta_
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Actually, we didn't go shopping for school clothes, my mom would find sales thoughout the summer and get us what we needed when they were on sale. Whatever she bought for school went into a box until school started. That way we didn't wear it over the summer. My grandmother usually bought us coats for Christmas presents.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:30:06 PM
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Sideways
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I don't remember us getting a whole new wardrobe, per se, but we did get several new outfits. It was enough for us to wear a whole new outfit every day for the first week, and I don't consider a week's worth of clothes to be a new wardrobe. That was only later on, though, when my parents were more financially stable.
In the early days we hit the thrift stores regularly for clothes. When we were older and they had a bit more money they would tell me what the budget was, and I could use the money as wisely or as stupidly as I wanted to. They always had veto power and final approval over all choices.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:33:02 PM
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zoebob
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Oh, well to me enough outfits for a new one every day for a week is a whole wardrobe. We went to a Christian School and I had to wear dresses/skirts and my brohters had to wear slacks and shirts with buttons. We had 5 outfits each. OK maybe 5 winter outfits and 5 warmer weather outfits.
My mom still wonders why my kids who are HSed need more than 1 church outfit. When they were kids they had one church dress they wore every week.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:46:12 PM
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Oh, well to me enough outfits for a new one every day for a week is a whole wardrobe.
Me too!
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My mom still wonders why my kids who are HSed need more than 1 church outfit. When they were kids they had one church dress they wore every week.
My parents didn't take us to church, so that wasn't something we thought of.
I suspect that my mom got some of our school clothes at a thrift store. I know that's where she got most of our play clothes. To me, it was so embarrassing that our play clothes were purchased there. I had a friend who used to tease me about it, until I found out that her mom bought her play clothes at garage sales.
Once my parents were divorced, they gave us money to spend on school clothes. I found that thrift shops were great then.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:53:02 PM
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zoebob
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Yup, many of our clothes came from thrift stores...especially for my brothers.
I thougth it was a big deal to have something new that didn't come from kmart which was a big insult to have Kmart clothes in the 70's
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 1:59:35 PM
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It does amaze me at how much the schools don't provide. Any school, public or private.
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My 3 year old niece is starting 3-K in August, and I'm pretty astonished at the list her Christian school sent out as required supplies. In addition to tuition they have to buy a bunch of stuff for her, plus contribute money to classroom art supplies.
It doesn't amaze me at all. It's called budget cuts. They could get by with less IF everyone contributed what they should, but they also have to consider that NOT every child in their class WILL have parents that shop according to the list.
I know the reason they ask for so many boxes of kleenex is that not every child brings in even one box.
Good art supplies aren't cheap either.
Just curious - what's on the 3 year old's list?
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:06:16 PM
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zoebob
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When I was a kid the kids provided the consumables that they would use.
The school provided the following. Many of these are not items that have to be bought every year or the schools can by them cheaper than parents can:
Consumables the teacher used
Non consumables (like scissors and rulers)
supplies for special classes: like construction paper or art supplies
The only exceptions to the special classes things were things that were personal: gym suits and the flutophone (recorder) for 3rd grade music. However, those things were often available used or could be passed down to siblings.
I think in elementary school we provided maybe 1 box of tissues a year.
In high school you might have to buy things like a calcuator or compass because these are things you would need to take hom to do your homework but then you got to keep them
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:07:55 PM
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zoebob
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By the time I had kids I think some of the stigma with Kmart or Walmart had gone away. When someone compliments something my kids have and I ssay it's from Walmart they make comments like they shop there too.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:11:21 PM
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garsyt
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It doesn't amaze me at all. It's called budget cuts.
I could tell you how I feel about budget cuts, but that would be a hole 'nother thread!
Me too my dear, me too!
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:12:19 PM
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Roberta_
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We do buy new shoes, socks and undies before school starts - simply because that's when they seem to always need to refresh their stashes.
Blessings,
Garsy
Yes they do! That is one thing that my parents never got us for Christmas or birthdays. I was thankful for that!
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:28:24 PM
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yeah...budget cuts stink!
i don't think it's always (though it can be sometimes) that parents don't contribute, i think there are a lot in public schools that can't contribute. to many a simple box of kleenex might not seem like a lot, but it can be...especially with more than 1 child- LOL we don't even buy kleenex for home. i get frustrated that for 3 children, it is not odd to spend over $100 on school supplies (and that just includes notebooks, paper, crayons, etc). back in the day, i was only required to have a notebook, some paper, and a pencil...wow, times have changed.
btw...just curious, do most schools/teachers require very specific items? my 7th grade daughter last year was required to have 4 3-inch binders, sharpie markers, specific folders, etc. although i know it must make it easier for teachers to have everything uniform, i think it's a bit much....finally, after dd couldn't carry home all of those binders, we begged teachers to let her cut them down to 1-inch, which they, thankfully, did. ;o)
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It does amaze me at how much the schools don't provide. Any school, public or private.
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My 3 year old niece is starting 3-K in August, and I'm pretty astonished at the list her Christian school sent out as required supplies. In addition to tuition they have to buy a bunch of stuff for her, plus contribute money to classroom art supplies.
It doesn't amaze me at all. It's called budget cuts. They could get by with less IF everyone contributed what they should, but they also have to consider that NOT every child in their class WILL have parents that shop according to the list.
I know the reason they ask for so many boxes of kleenex is that not every child brings in even one box.
Good art supplies aren't cheap either.
Just curious - what's on the 3 year old's list?
Blessings,
Garsy
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 2:36:39 PM
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Roberta_
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btw...just curious, do most schools/teachers require very specific items? my 7th grade daughter last year was required to have 4 3-inch binders, sharpie markers, specific folders, etc. although i know it must make it easier for teachers to have everything uniform, i think it's a bit much....finally, after dd couldn't carry home all of those binders, we begged teachers to let her cut them down to 1-inch, which they, thankfully, did. ;o)
Now that I'm in CA, I'm not sure. However, that was the norm when we lived in IN.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 6:04:21 PM
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My dd is starting preschool, and I hadn't really thought about shopping. She has enough clothes.
I buy bargains or particularly appealing stuff when I see them. Other than that, I make an effort to shop when outfits get small and the pickings get slim in the drawer, and when the seasons are changing. (We're in Canada, so buying seasonally is necessary - we can't wear the same clothes year round.)
It seems like if you buy everything at the same time, they would grow out of it all at the same time. For me it makes sense to buy here-and-there through the year. Easier on the budget too, and a nice cheerful thing to buy something nice once in a while.
I wonder if they will ask for supplies...
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 6:45:36 PM
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the pencils are plastic and have standard and metric on them
Did you mean the rulers? I like the metal ones with the cork backs. We have to get a lot of them, though, because we're always losing them.
I love Walmart. I just wished there were a Super Walmart closer to where we live.
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 6:47:22 PM
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zoebob
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yes, I meant rulers.
I went and they were out but are going to get more in so I'll try again later this week
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RE: Back to school time again - 7/13/2008 6:56:48 PM
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Yes, I remember the dreaded K-Mart clothes. I lived in fear that someone would ask where I got something that I got there.
Our lists ask for specific items.
Here is my 8th graders list:
8th Grade Supply List 2008-2009
2 - Single Subject Notebooks (Communications and Science)
1 - package Note cards - 4 x 6 (Communications)
4 - packages loose leaf notebook paper (100 count packages) (Literature, Social Studies, Science, Math)
2 - three-ring 1” binders (Science and Math)
2 - pocket folders Lliterature and Science)
5-tabbed dividers - 1 set (Math)
Pencils (all classes)
1 - box/8 colored pencils - (Science)
Tissues - 3 boxesAll students should bring pencils and blue or black pens.
Homework will be accepted only in pencil or blue or black pens.
My fifth graders list was a little longer.
We buy things as we need them, or as we find something for a good price. My oldest two girls just bought some new clothes on clearance. They've already started wearing them though, so they didn't want to save them to be new for school starting. We go to garage sales and thrift stores, and many of their clothes come from there. That's never been a problem for them, they like to go. From middle school until they have their own money I give them money twice a year to buy clothes. That way they can learn how to make it go the furthest. I'm not sure what I'll do with my son; he's not really into shopping.
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