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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/28/2008 8:13:14 AM
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jazzact13
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I thought it was ok. Middling. Lacking in some things, but ok in others.
Perhaps I should make this a bit of a spoiler, so I'll put the text in white.
The story was surprisingly tame for an x-file--no aliens, no mutants, no really strange creatures. We're left doubting the former priest's psychic abilities, and while we do get the occasional glimpse of the frankenstein-like man, it's almost always on an operating table and is not a part of the action.
X-Files could be pretty dramatic, but this was different. It had more the feel of a "Law and Order" or a "Criminal Minds" type of thing, rather then "X-Files".
I didn't really feel like an x-file for a few minutes, until we finally meet Mulder and he starts rambling about...something, in that way he can do. Then it felt better.
Mulder, then, was still Mulder. Scully, however, has changed. She's gone back into medicine, and seems much more interested in the real-world problems of helping and curing patients then in solving bizarre mysteries. In a way, Mulder and Scully have two almost completely different story lines in the movie, with hers being closer to something like "House".
If you're expecting clarifications from how the series ended, you'll be disappointed. We don't learned happened to Kirsch, Doggett, or Reyes. On the plus side, towards the end they do bring in Skinner, which was something I was hoping they would do.
Questions of ethics and morality do come in, and provide good source of tension. In order to cure a young patient, Scully uses some stem cell procedures. I couldn't tell from what she said if it was a statement about stem cells in general, or the use of embryonic stem cell, which would have been either pointed or tasteless as she worked at a Catholic hospital. Questions about the former priest, who had been a pedophile, and whether God hears his prayers are brought up.
It's not so much that I found it bad or disappointing, as it was simply not satisfying. It lacked the creepiness and strangeness of an episode, or even the first movie. It lacked the gloss and finish of many recent movies, which was fine, but the 'realism' wasn't enough.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/28/2008 4:06:35 PM
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I thought it was ok. Middling. Lacking in some things, but ok in others.
Perhaps I should make this a bit of a spoiler, so I'll put the text in white.
The story was surprisingly tame for an x-file--no aliens, no mutants, no really strange creatures. We're left doubting the former priest's psychic abilities, and while we do get the occasional glimpse of the frankenstein-like man, it's almost always on an operating table and is not a part of the action.
X-Files could be pretty dramatic, but this was different. It had more the feel of a "Law and Order" or a "Criminal Minds" type of thing, rather then "X-Files".
I didn't really feel like an x-file for a few minutes, until we finally meet Mulder and he starts rambling about...something, in that way he can do. Then it felt better.
Mulder, then, was still Mulder. Scully, however, has changed. She's gone back into medicine, and seems much more interested in the real-world problems of helping and curing patients then in solving bizarre mysteries. In a way, Mulder and Scully have two almost completely different story lines in the movie, with hers being closer to something like "House".
If you're expecting clarifications from how the series ended, you'll be disappointed. We don't learned happened to Kirsch, Doggett, or Reyes. On the plus side, towards the end they do bring in Skinner, which was something I was hoping they would do.
Questions of ethics and morality do come in, and provide good source of tension. In order to cure a young patient, Scully uses some stem cell procedures. I couldn't tell from what she said if it was a statement about stem cells in general, or the use of embryonic stem cell, which would have been either pointed or tasteless as she worked at a Catholic hospital. Questions about the former priest, who had been a pedophile, and whether God hears his prayers are brought up.
It's not so much that I found it bad or disappointing, as it was simply not satisfying. It lacked the creepiness and strangeness of an episode, or even the first movie. It lacked the gloss and finish of many recent movies, which was fine, but the 'realism' wasn't enough.
Spoiler response in white also.
IMHO it would have fit into the the X Files milder plots. You had evil Russian doctors playing god by deciding that one man's life was worth several people's lives. You also had the debate about stem cells and end of life care. How far do you go to save a person's life? How much is a person's life worth? Not only in terms of money and resources but it was juxtaposed against the 'Frankenstein-like' procedures the Russian doctors engaged in. Did you notice it was the homosexuals who were the ones willing to kill many people to keep themselves alive despite the cost?
The pedophile priest's role was interesting. In a way he reminded me of Saul/Paul. There is the monster before the conversion and the penitent man who remained afterwards. Paul seemed acutely aware of his sins afterwards and called himself the least among the brethren. So to did the priest seem to be penitent to me. Can and would God really forgive someone for the sins of multiple murders or multiple rapes? And since He does what does that say about us who won't forgive the repentant sinner? I saw more of a morality play here than a true X File almost.
Matthew 6:14 "For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others, then your Father will not forgive your transgressions."
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/28/2008 11:11:04 PM
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I heard there's something at the end that is very, very out of character.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/29/2008 1:05:56 AM
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I'm not sure what you are talking about.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/29/2008 1:56:49 PM
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Scene after the credits?! ACK! I left when they started.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 7/30/2008 9:56:35 AM
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I didn't stay through the credits either, so didn't see it.
Hang on, though, it wouldn't have had something to do with the Scully abduction episodes from season 2 or 3, where her life being in the balance is shown as her in a row boat on a lake? Or is that just me reaching for straws?
But, hey, the movie referenced Mulder throwing pencils into the ceiling for one episode, so who knows...
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/3/2008 11:04:52 AM
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I saw the movie yesterday. I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it despite the lack of Internet buzz over its release.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/4/2008 4:01:21 PM
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I thought it was classic X-files minus the whole FBI personality in our two main starts. At first it felt strange not having them as FBI agents but I got comfortable with it.
The movie was just right. I expected Scully to have removed herself from that life and I expected Mulder to get drawn in the case. Their relationship is sweet and very expected. You don't go through that much for years and not be close to each other. I'm glad it wasn't overdone and over dramatized.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/4/2008 4:13:32 PM
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See, I always thought they would end up together
romantically
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/5/2008 4:02:43 PM
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My question is how did Mulder support himself financially and how did he get all his office stuff back? lol
that, in itself, might be an x-file
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/7/2008 10:21:28 AM
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There have been re-runs locally on cable or whatever the last week or so of Mulder and Doggett working together.
We were laughing at how those two seem to just grate on each other's nerves.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/7/2008 10:22:32 AM
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Hey I was just thinking...is there no mention of Scully's son in the movie?
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/11/2008 12:49:27 PM
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doinkdom
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When Scully and Mulder are talking about her patient and she is sharing with him how much this case is bothering her, Mulder asks her how old Christian is, I don't think she even answers directly but he knows that he's about the age that William would be. He then makes a comment about "losing our son left an emptiness in both of us" or something along those lines.
I only got to see the movie once before it was pulled from our theater  so I don't know the exact quote.
Oh okay. So she gave him up and never contacted the adoptive parents at all.
huh...I thought for sure since he has abilities, etc. that they would incorporate him into a movie - maybe that'll be the next one. 
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/15/2008 2:55:43 PM
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She gave up William towards the end of the last season. One thing that had happened was the Spender had injected the child with something that was supposed to have suppressed his mental powers. I am glad that they made mention of him in the movie, though.
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RE: X Files Movie: I Want to Believe - 8/15/2008 4:08:31 PM
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She gave up William towards the end of the last season. One thing that had happened was the Spender had injected the child with something that was supposed to have suppressed his mental powers. I am glad that they made mention of him in the movie, though.
yeh, but you know how it works...boy/girl reaches puberty and whammo, the hormones mess with their DNA or cell structure or whatever - the writers generally make the story complicated enough to believe and simple enough to be in a comic book.
and viola! Insto-Presto Mutant Psycho!
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I know it really didn't fit with the rest of the movie but I liked it anyway.
