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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 1:16:30 PM
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Ellie-Mae
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What planet is she from?? I remember being 10, 11, and 12. We were far from innocent. One of the kids down the road from me even had a baby shortly after she turned 13! And that was when *I* was a kid!!!
Why would even want to risk putting our kids in situations where temptation is so... easy to try to get away with?
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 1:41:25 PM
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I am really blessed that we had a youth pastor whose chief message was Wait To Date, which reinforced my teaching on that subject. It also helped that Ashley's best friend did the whole boyfriend/girlfriend thing at a fairly early age, and after watching her break up 3 or 4 times she figured she wasn't about to put herself through that. My kids go to youth group things, where there is a strict no pairing up rule, and with friends in groups, but there is no one on one dating. I haven't really even had to put my foot down about it - they made that decision after seeing what goes on around them and hearing all of Pastor Dan's teachings. Thankfully it hasn't ever been a battle here.
BTW the youngest mom we ever had in the unit was 11 - she came in with the 13 yo dad, the 25 yo grandmother, and the 39 yo great grandma, and didn't they all think the whole situation was just wonderful? 
It's raining here again. I'm tired of rain. Everything I want to do is outside.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 1:54:50 PM
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When our youth group goes camping, there is an adult in every tent. Plus we designate a few trusted college sponsors to stay up all night around the campfire.
Well-supervised children get in much less trouble.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 2:34:46 PM
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I have this problem with my "youth leader/helper". She wanted to take the kids camping last week if our church denomination camp was cancelled due to flooding. Luckily, regular camp was still on. Her idea was to have boys in one tent, girls in another and mothers in the camper. I thought... there is no way I'm leaving my kids with a group of co-ed kids to run around the campground while we hang out in the camper. Her exact words were... "At this age, nothing will happen"..... I was thinking she was nuts! Her daughter is always trying to kiss my son. She does it in a "little girl" way.. but still, at 10(almost 11) and 12.... NO WAY! The mom just jokes about it and thinks it is normal and innocent at this age.
Sounds like she is living in lala land.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 2:43:20 PM
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.... All I know, is that it does make me feel like a "loner", but I know I'm the right. It is best to wait and not even start the trail of bf/gfriend stuff.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 4:28:58 PM
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Annie, my kids wouldn't go anywhere with that youth leader.
I am so thankful for our youth pastor and his wife. They are even more strict/conservative than us, and though their kids are still little (4, 2, 8 months), I doubt they'll be changing their views. I'd much rather have my kids with someone that is stricter than us than someone who isn't, KWIM? I hope they stick around a long, long, long time, so they can have all my kids in youth group. 
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 4:32:47 PM
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Okay, remember how I said that my son got 3 phone numbers from girls.... well one just called.  Any suggestions? I'd hate to jump to conclusions that this is the start of a boy/girl friend... but at the same time..... I AM!!!! 
Ask him. And then remember that many girls these days are very aggressive. Set firm limits if you decide to let him keep up contact...he may only speak to them in the family areas and only for 10 minutes at a time or something. And no calls after whatever time you decide...8 or something.
Noah's "best friend" is a little girl in his class at school. He just spent the afternoon at her house. They are 8 and we have already put limits in place for calling frequency, duration, and where they may play when they are together (no bedrooms...only in open areas or outside).
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 5:14:56 PM
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Donna, do you limit how often they are allowed to play together?
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 5:17:41 PM
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Her exact words were... "At this age, nothing will happen".....
Then she needs to spend some time sitting at the local public health department and seeing what 10, 11, and 12 year olds are dealing with now...from "nothing happening."
A 14 year old boy in our town was charged yesterday with the murder and rape of his friend's 8 year old little sister. She didn't make it home a couple of evenings ago from playing outside with her friends.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 5:37:55 PM
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Donna, do you limit how often they are allowed to play together?
We're keeping it to once or twice a week over the summer. If it is twice, it is because we meet at the playground and ALL the kids are playing together. During the school year, they didn't see each other outside of school and church, because I think that's plenty.
Also, when she is here, the rule is they have to let Hannah play, since G is a girl also. I don't make that rule when he has boy friends over, which isn't often either.
The other mom is kind of naive when it comes to boy/girl stuff, but we've talked and she sees where I'm coming from. I trust her to follow our rules when Noah is there.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 5:50:03 PM
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Hmm. Interesting. It would never have occurred to me to limit the time they spend together at such a young age. Maybe because I only really had male friends until I got married and I wasn't ever physically involved with any of them. Geez. When I was 8 I was having clay mud fights, crabbing, and playing man-hunt. Things have come along way and I'm barely able to drink legally.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 5:51:29 PM
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It probably wouldn't have been an issue now...they would both rather be outside, climbing trees, riding bikes, and finding bugs. But I didn't want to have looser standards and have to tighten them up later when they are older, KWIM?
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 6:14:26 PM
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Brandon has always had a lot more female friends than male ones. Right now, though, there is a particular young lady that he's been hanging out with, and I think their interest goes beyond platonic. He knows we don't do teenage dating, but the grey area in between is uncharted territory for the most part, and I have been struggling with it the last few weeks. In fact, the last time he biked over to look at their kittens, he 'lost track of time' and I had to call him when he was late. So I just told him no to another bike ride.
Part of the difference is that with his other friends, the moms were usually friends as well, and it was families hanging out together. Part of the problem is also that I really do not know her family and we don't know where they go to church (around here, chances are they are Mormon).
Anyway, just so you'all know you aren't the only ones dealing with this stuff! LOL
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 7:19:40 PM
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Oh my goodness....... At dinner we were talking about upcoming plans. I noticed that I had somethign on the calendar for next Saturday but I couldn't read it. Ds3 got up and looked at the calendar. Um, he wasn't sure what it was. The dog was working somewhere, but didn't know hwere. So he spelled it "l-i-t-e-r-a-c-y counsel" Dh and I about busted a gut laughing!!!
My cousin called this afternoon. Ds1 and I are racing this weekend near her house. We will drive down Saturdya and spend the night, then drive to the venue in the morning. My aunt will be there, too. We ahd a great visit at Grandma's before ds1's last race. Looking forward to another visit!
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 7:34:42 PM
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I wonder if they ever got the feeling that they were being interviewed. Anyway, they passed.
LOL! Knowing them, I'm sure they did, but I'm equally sure they understood.
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 9:30:44 PM
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I went to talk to the new endoc today. We get there (an hours drive, more because we didn't follow directions ). We get there only to find out that my appointment was actually for the day before and and that that particular doc just left for vacation. BUT the other endoc was able to see me so we saw her instead. I really like her. She never looked at her watch. She was sympathetic. She explained more things to me. She (best of all) gave a prescription for something that will help me feel better really quick after I start taking it, unlike the cynthroid that takes time. That stuff will help me while my body adjusts to the synthroid. I may get to enjoy my summer after all!
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/3/2008 10:41:05 PM
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We get there only to find out that my appointment was actually for the day before and and that that particular doc just left for vacation.
Oops! Sounds like you got the "right" doctor though, even if on the wrong day. Will you be able to stay with the doctor you saw today?
Annie, maybe she'll call a few times and then get tired of it. But good for you for saying he had to limit it and stay in the livingroom. I think having calls in a public area is very important.
Hannah and Levi...sound asleep in "their" room. I did have to sit up there for 30 minutes, but used it to have my quiet time in my room, since I can see them still. Not nearly as bad as I thought it would go for Hannah to fall asleep without touching someone. Maybe my baby girl is growing up?   I mean, really...wasn't she a baby just yesterday?
Nick fell asleep crying because he "hates it here and doesn't want his own room". He has his own room at mommy's house, however, he also has a TV, VCR/DVD player, and Playstation in his room there, none of which any of our kids have or will have. The "I won't be able to sleep by myself" thing is ridiculous since he already goes up to bed without anyone with him and Noah comes up an hour or so later. Plus, he'll actually be closer to OUR room than he is now. Anyway, he is aware of the changes being made, but not WHY we are making them. His new room will be ready by the time he comes here next time (July 17th). I expect he will throw ginormous fits and probably will tell his mother that we are locking him in his own room.
Which BTW, brings up something else...right now, we have a hook/eye latch on our bedroom door, and we use it during times the kids shouldn't be walking in on, if you KWIM. With him on the OTHER side of our room, we're going to need a hook/eye latch on that door also, and also on the bathroom door (bathroom has separate doors to his new room and our room). We'd never shut it while he's awake, but if DSS were to come back again, will they throw a fit about that?
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/4/2008 12:32:25 AM
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((((Sarah))))
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RE: July ... picnics, pools, and parties ... and a home... - 7/4/2008 9:28:16 AM
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My mom's friend, L, has been staying with her for the last week or so. L is divorcing her husband and needs to not be at home for safety reasons. He was given an order to immediately vacate yesterday, so hopefully he did so, without causing damage.
Anyway, L had to bring her dogs. Gus is the sweetest dog you'd ever meet, and we are all amazed that this happened...Sadie, my mom's doxie, apparently ticked Gus off, and Gus tried to rip her throat out. So they had to take her in and she had surgery and she is absolutely miserable and so is my mom, but worse is L, who feels just awful about the whole thing.
When my mom told me what happened, I said, 'Well, Sadie is very antagonistic!' and she said, 'Why does everyone keep saying that?'
I would love to have slept in this morning.
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Now there's barely any light at all in there. There are no windows in the bathroom, so this could be a problem. 
Maybe I'll just leave a flashlight on the countertop. 
