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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 12:18:52 PM   
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Amen ... And I think that is what so many people are trying to say, although it is difficult for some people, including myself, to sound the warning without offending others .....


I did a study and a teaching on "offenses" years ago.

Often is the case that we DON'T offend others, it's more they TAKE OFFENSE.
And worst yet, is many take up other's offenses.

No one was offending others exposing Bentley these last months, but plenty
took offense.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 12:22:42 PM   
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http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 1:10:21 PM   
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check out the second post in this thread, advising the OP to go to extreme prophetica and listen to a "great woman of God"

here

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 2:34:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.


Is he repenting because he supported Bentley or is he repenting of his own Latter Rain/Domnionist theology?

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 2:36:33 PM   
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check out the second post in this thread, advising the OP to go to extreme prophetica and listen to a "great woman of God"


Yet if you follow the "revival controversy" you get her defending the kicking and swinging and such to the people by Todd. I found nothing on the main page at that sight that in any way said "whoops, maybe I was wrong". : /

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 4:42:55 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Soxfan

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.


Is he repenting because he supported Bentley or is he repenting of his own Latter Rain/Domnionist theology?


He's just repenting of the blotch bentley put on the name of Christ.
He recognizes there is blame to go around, but his eyes aren't open
to his own lack of biblical integrity.

Him and others are the pool the bentleys come out of.

I just thought it bore repeating that this was so bad that even the Sheets of the
world are backing away from it.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 4:53:43 PM   
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The Fall of a False Revival


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I know, Father, that this will not be the last false revival--just as I and many others knew that Toronto, Brownsville, Kansas City, Anaheim, and Pensacola would not be the last false revivals. There will be other false prophets, apostles, and teachers who will falsely claim to come in Your name and who will erroneously claim to speak for You.

Father, please give Your true Church spiritual eyes to see and ears to hear. Help Your Church to discern truth from error. Give Your Church the wisdom to discern between the genuine power and anointing of Your Holy Spirit and the false outpouring wrought by fallen angels, principalities, and other demonic forces at the behest of fallen, sinful men and women--people who claim to be Your ambassadors, but who are likely lost operatives of the Enemy. Father, I ask that you would save these operatives, too.


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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/26/2008 5:05:31 PM   
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Pray for Todd Bentley

It would appear that the prayers of the faithful have been answered. But this is no time to gloat. To do so would be sinful.


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Pray for the other false teachers and charlatans who have propped up Bentley as a prophet of God. Pray that they, too, will come to repentance and faith.

Pray for the untold number of people who have been duped by yet another in a long line of false teachers and false prophets. Pray that they will now seek the true Giver of life and gifts instead of false manifestations and false impartations of false givers.


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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 8:10:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

quote:

ORIGINAL: Soxfan

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.


Is he repenting because he supported Bentley or is he repenting of his own Latter Rain/Domnionist theology?


He's just repenting of the blotch bentley put on the name of Christ.
He recognizes there is blame to go around, but his eyes aren't open
to his own lack of biblical integrity.

Him and others are the pool the bentleys come out of.

I just thought it bore repeating that this was so bad that even the Sheets of the
world are backing away from it.


I spent the last few days over at Charisma Mag's forums. It's amazing how these people post statements from people like C Peter Wagner, Dutch Sheets, Che Ahn, John Arnott apologizing and repenting for supporting Lakeland and Bentley.

Hey folks, I have a news bulletin for you....they should be repenting for spewing the same Latter Rain/Dominionist theology that Bentley was spouting.

Bentley is a small finsh in the Latter Rain cult, compared to Wagner, Ahn, Sheets, Joyner, etc

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 9:59:44 AM   
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So Che Ahn is repenting of promoting, supporting, and comissioning Bentley?

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 11:26:04 AM   
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technically, how much of "latter rain" theology was even on the list of complaints against bently here in this thread? that wasn't really even on the radar. there were other alarming things that were up for grabs.

now that some of bentley's supporters are apologizing the issue is swinging over to latter rain theology. the question has been asked here, where is the SALVIC heresy in latter rain theology? and how is the latter rain heresy defined?

no answer, but the drum beat goes on.

just what would be said if theses leaders offered NO apology? it would be outrageous wouldn't it? yet, their apologies are treated as worthless garbage.

we don't just disect doctrine. we bite and devour one another.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 11:50:58 AM   
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Lay it out for us OLEE.
what is Latter Rain Theology?
Just asking.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 12:58:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: bluestone

check out the second post in this thread, advising the OP to go to extreme prophetica and listen to a "great woman of God"

here


Okay, thanks for the pointing the way to that. Patricia strongly implied that those in the body of Christ speaking negative words unleashed a negative force against Bentley.

yeah, right.

I'd like to say more but I'm not feeling well. I hope it's not a negative force someone released against me.

Later.
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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 1:09:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: wintery

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ORIGINAL: bluestone

check out the second post in this thread, advising the OP to go to extreme prophetica and listen to a "great woman of God"

here


Okay, thanks for the pointing the way to that. Patricia strongly implied that those in the body of Christ speaking negative words unleashed a negative force against Bentley.

yeah, right.

I'd like to say more but I'm not feeling well. I hope it's not a negative force someone released against me.

Later.



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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 2:54:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

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ORIGINAL: Soxfan

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.


Is he repenting because he supported Bentley or is he repenting of his own Latter Rain/Domnionist theology?


He's just repenting of the blotch bentley put on the name of Christ.
He recognizes there is blame to go around, but his eyes aren't open
to his own lack of biblical integrity.

Him and others are the pool the bentleys come out of.

I just thought it bore repeating that this was so bad that even the Sheets of the
world are backing away from it.


Someone please tell me --would an apology from Bentley or any of these false teachers ensure that they will escape the doom promised those who spread destructive doctrines?....

"1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)-- 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.

12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire
. II Peter 2

Please show me where it says, "but if they apologize, they will not receive the punishment promised in these verses."

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 4:17:08 PM   
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we won’t be seeing repentance unless it suits the powers behind Lakeland to get the show back on the road; it’s easier to get him out of the way for awhile until the public shock and outrage dies down. There are 50 more ‘apostles’ ready to take Bentleys place, but they don’t have the crowd manipulation skills Bentley has. Yet.


Old news, but still interesting.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 4:19:31 PM   
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Newspaper article

healed?

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 8:43:05 PM   
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Hey folks, I have a news bulletin for you....they should be repenting for spewing the same Latter Rain/Dominionist theology that Bentley was spouting.

Bentley is a small finsh in the Latter Rain cult, compared to Wagner, Ahn, Sheets, Joyner, etc


Unfortunately lotsa of evangelicals do not see this......

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/27/2008 11:49:27 PM   
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Lapidoth I like the post someone said in the second link "Faith Healers should be convicted of practising medicine without a license".

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/28/2008 12:21:05 PM   
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Lapidoth I like the post someone said in the second link "Faith Healers should be convicted of practising medicine without a license".


There is some justification in that statement.

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/28/2008 3:43:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kat_D

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

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ORIGINAL: Soxfan

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

http://www.dutchsheets.org/index.cfm

Bears repeating for those checking the last page.


Is he repenting because he supported Bentley or is he repenting of his own Latter Rain/Domnionist theology?


He's just repenting of the blotch bentley put on the name of Christ.
He recognizes there is blame to go around, but his eyes aren't open
to his own lack of biblical integrity.

Him and others are the pool the bentleys come out of.

I just thought it bore repeating that this was so bad that even the Sheets of the
world are backing away from it.


Someone please tell me --would an apology from Bentley or any of these false teachers ensure that they will escape the doom promised those who spread destructive doctrines?....

"1 But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. 2 And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. 3 By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber.

4 For if God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but saved Noah, one of eight people, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood on the world of the ungodly; 6 and turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah into ashes, condemned them to destruction, making them an example to those who afterward would live ungodly; 7 and delivered righteous Lot, who was oppressed by the filthy conduct of the wicked 8 (for that righteous man, dwelling among them, tormented his righteous soul from day to day by seeing and hearing their lawless deeds)-- 9 then the Lord knows how to deliver the godly out of temptations and to reserve the unjust under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who walk according to the flesh in the lust of uncleanness and despise authority. They are presumptuous, self-willed. They are not afraid to speak evil of dignitaries, 11 whereas angels, who are greater in power and might, do not bring a reviling accusation against them before the Lord.

12 But these, like natural brute beasts made to be caught and destroyed, speak evil of the things they do not understand, and will utterly perish in their own corruption, 13 and will receive the wages of unrighteousness, as those who count it pleasure to carouse in the daytime. They are spots and blemishes, carousing in their own deceptions while they feast with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery and that cannot cease from sin, enticing unstable souls. They have a heart trained in covetous practices, and are accursed children. 15 They have forsaken the right way and gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he was rebuked for his iniquity: a dumb donkey speaking with a man's voice restrained the madness of the prophet. 17 These are wells without water, clouds carried by a tempest, for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.

18 For when they speak great swelling words of emptiness, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through lewdness, the ones who have actually escaped from those who live in error. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by whom a person is overcome, by him also he is brought into bondage. 20 For if, after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the latter end is worse for them than the beginning. 21 For it would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered to them. 22 But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and, "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire
. II Peter 2

Please show me where it says, "but if they apologize, they will not receive the punishment promised in these verses."


Bueller? Bueller? Anyone?

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/28/2008 3:49:06 PM   
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Preston on Politics: Bueller? Bueller? -- McCain needs Rove


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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/29/2008 4:21:53 PM   
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Here's a clip we missed in the circus show.

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Verified Resurrection from the Lakeland Revival


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The Children of the Lakeland Revival


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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/29/2008 4:34:40 PM   
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Lapidoth, you got popcorn you're trying to use up?

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RE: Expose Fruitless Deeds of Darkenss > Ephesians 5:11 - 8/30/2008 5:32:33 PM   
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Not as good as the Benny Hinn version, but just as disturbing

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