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God is always moving, but it still in the gentle whisper. It still isn't in the winds, the fire, or an earthquake.

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ORIGINAL: Lapidoth

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*I understand "deception" to mean all sorts of counterfeits of the
Holy Spirit. These will include counterfeit moves of God's power
which will come from other spirits, from New Age/occult spirits,
counterfeit healings and miracles even, false teachings, false
prophecies, counterfeit visions from the enemy, counterfeit
experiences of heaven, fake appearances of Jesus and, please
note, many counterfeit appearances of angels which will really be
fallen angels come to deceive any believers who are open to them.
Of course Christians can have such experiences genuinely from
the Lord but there is also going to be an increase in these
counterfeits as we move towards the end-times, as the enemy
attempts to "deceive if possible even the elect", (Matt 24;24).

Church Warnings

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ORIGINAL: earthless
It came out that Todd admitted he hadn't heard that from God, that it was just an idea he had so that they could raise money to build a big stadium.

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I've seen the man's website and he's legit, not a heresy hunter.

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So here we have a 'pro-Lakeland' church checking out these facts for the first time and now deciding that they "need to back up and not identify ourselves closely with Lakeland." Pretty amazing!

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ORIGINAL: earthless

This one is unreal...

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ORIGINAL: Soxfan

Awesome letter earthless. It's always fascinating to see heretical movements warning people about other heretical movements

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So, it does look like the departure from Lakeland has become an impetus for Todd Bentley to bring his ministry on a world tour and reach others who would otherwise not have a chance of receiving the “anointing” while he was entrenched in Florida.

Which means that, unfortunately, our cheers were terribly short-lived, and that, yes, we’ll soon hear more of his “BAM!” from all corners of the world.

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Che Ahn And His Ties To Todd Bentley

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The more troubling issue is this: why would City Harvest Church, having knowledge of this close relationship between Che Ahn and Bentley (who is obviously a liar, charlatan and false prophet) invite the former to guest-speak to their congregation?

To me, the incident doesn’t speak well of the level of discernment of the leadership at the church, since Bentley’s lies and obvious lack of Biblical truth have been called out by so many, including respected leaders in Christendom.

Moreover, inviting this pastor Che Ahn2 to speak at the church might even expose many, including countless non-believers who are usually invited to such services, to untold horrors because this whole Bentley movement isn’t of God, but is even demonic!

One needs question why a church in Singapore would bring such liars and false prophets to minister to its congregation, especially since I understand that much of the congregation consists of the young and impressionable.

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By the way, did Todd say “holy goat” near the end of the video, or do my ears need cleaning? “Freudian slip” perhaps?

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I have firsthand experience with the teachings of William Branham (the highly touted ‘prophet to the gentiles’ whom has been dead and gone for 40 or so years) but his faithless followers (faithful to him however) keep putting out the tapes and books. It is so very sad that the Kansas City Prophets, lacking any sort of real spiritual discernment, resurrected his unholy spirit and false, poisonous doctrines and trump it out as ’something new’ and holy. Bentley actually believes he is led by the angel that corresponded with Branham (named Emma apparently) which, no doubt he is. Bentkley is a down right fool in every biblical and literal sense of the word! I will testify first hand that the fruit of that spirit that ran Branham is oppression, sexism, racist, mocking, unscriptural, bondage (physical and spiritual), perverted, unholy, graven images of self, self empowerment, lust for power and glory, more fear, respecters of positions, full of hatred for outsiders and each other.

All and any doctrines associated with Branham (Manchild, Serpent Seed, Latter Day Rain, Joels Army, Sons of Manifest , 5-Fold Ministry…etal) are suspect, by default, of counterfeit spirituality. Branham and Oral Roberts buddied across America for some time basically reinventing hype and hysteria in charismatic circles, totally rejected by most pentecostals as heretic including the Assembly of God. Roberts and Branham separated due to greed and pride not mixing well. At the same time, AW Tozer (a real minister of the Lord), headed north to Canada to “get away from the insanity going on in the ‘crusades’ happening in American charismatic and pentecostal churches” infected by these insanities and false manifestations of the 40 and 50’s and early 60’s.

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Branham and the rest who are created in his image are all false prophets and any ‘minister’ causing believers to accept these lies they spew are guilty of ‘teaching my servants to eat things sacrificed unto idols’ which is what happend in Num 25 ‘ baalpeor episode. Read it, understand it! The real Spirit of God can not be bought, transported and/or imparted on whomever you chose. Dont buy (literally and metaphorically) this load of ****! Bentley, Styne, DeLuca, the KC Prophets, Bob Jones, Cain (Branhams most faithful follower until the late 50’s) and the rest of them are cut from the same image. Flee idolatry! Return to God Almighty! Humble yourself to the Lordship of Christ Jesus! Repent and be healed for real if you’ve been snagged by this old rusty hook of lies!

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Coming Out Of Deception

by Dawn

I am coming away from revival with something I didn’t expect. Like many honest, God-fearing believers who love Him, I came expecting to find and come away with “more” of Him. What I have come away with is the realization that perhaps much of what I have built my Christian walk on is deception. This kind of deception cannot solely be laid at the feet of the Todd Bentley’s, or even the Bob Jones of the world. It is much too insidious to be attributed to mere mortals. I see myself in each one of these individuals. They are me! I believe these are all men and women who love God and have honestly desired to follow after Him. But somehow, somewhere along the way, we began to listen to another gospel and follow another Jesus. I don’t believe for a moment that my journey out of deception is complete, but praise God, it’s a start.

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I have said, as well as the many others who are attending revival, we are hungry for God. But is that really what we are hungry for? Are we hungry for a life that is holy, that denies the desires of our flesh, to glory in our weakness rather than in our visions and revelations of Christ (as Paul says in 2 Corinthians 12:1-5? Or is it something else we’ve been hungry for? I can tell you, after 30 years of all the preaching, teaching, conferences, healing schools, prophetic schools, etc., we have been after more than just God. We’ve been after His power. We are after His glory… which He will not share. (”I am the Lord: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another…” Isaiah 42:8.) It our seeking of the power and glory of God that leads to deception; it is to pursue another Jesus and preach another gospel!