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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 7:35:58 PM   
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I read Baby Wise and for my type A personality it sounded wonderful...while baby was in the womb. When she came out, was a different story. I got so bent out of shape if she didn't do this, didn't do that, etc. I did learn a lot from the book, like don't offer a breast as soon as the baby cries, when to sort of expect another feed, etc. But I basically threw the book out, it caused so much tension at first because my baby didn't adhere to it perfectly. However, I do realize the importance of instituting a routine as soon as possible. I believe routine is different than schedule. I think they do get a rhythm down after a while and they thrive knowing what comes next. However, this time, if he eats 15 minutes instead of 10, I'm not going to flip out. If he doesn't sleep as long as he 'should' I won't flip out. I'm just saying all this because that book caused so many problems in my house. I have a hard time with the book. I have since read other books that have the same basic information but don't state that if it's not done this way your baby will be a problem child. I am not saying you said that, I do see what you are saying, that you used it as a guide and being flexible and I agree. I just don't like that book. It's a trigger for me. So anyway. Guess I'm just thinking about the time when the newborn doesn't have a routine yet and trying to work with a non-routine child and a routine child at the same time. Nice thing about Nadia, though, because we have a routine, she can deviate from it from time to time and be ok and go down at 9 instead of 8, if we have to. KWIM?

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 9:17:19 PM   
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In my experience, if you already have a family routine, most of the time the baby adjusts and everything will flow smoothly. I'm not saying it's really easy, because you will be tired and need more of you to go around; but seriously, I know everything will be just fine!!


I liked the book, but I did pick and choose. We had this one family in our church that went WAY overboard on it, though - and I think that was my example for making the philosophies fit my lifestyle. The parents would come in the nursery and literally scold the nursery workers if the baby had his bottle at 11am instead of 10:45 or 11:15.
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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 9:32:04 PM   
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In my experience, if you already have a family routine, most of the time the baby adjusts and everything will flow smoothly.

(and just to give another reality) IME it doesn't work so well adding a baby to a family routine that isn't a baby routine already. It is mostly about the baby's personality as to whether they "fit" the family or not.


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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 9:39:52 PM   
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Kathryn, I think you'll find that your schedule grows to fit around the new baby. Meaning...Nadia might not have exactly the routine she does now. New babe will go down for a nap and it's *near* Nadia's nap time, so you put her down then too. Baby needs to eat, so dinner is a bit later than normal. At least that's how it works in our house...not that everything else gets pushed aside, but we work around baby's schedule (or lack thereof) instead of trying to fit the baby into ours. This happens for at least the first few months before we have a new whole family routine.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 9:42:01 PM   
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...not that everything else gets pushed aside, but we work around baby's schedule (or lack thereof) instead of trying to fit the baby into ours.

yup...that's how it happens around here too....for about the first 4 months at least....usually by then baby has a real routine that I can work around and plan around better.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 11:07:12 PM   
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4 months, eh?? i guess another two will be okay ...

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/14/2008 11:15:39 PM   
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Ok, I see. That makes sense. It's like there is understanding and grace for the newbie getting to know the 'family' until the newbie gets more acclimated. Does that make sense? And as I remember with Nadia, it was gradual. Things got better little by little. It wasn't like overnight things changed. That makes me feel better. It just takes time for babe to learn the family and for the family to learn the babe. Right?

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 1:46:50 AM   
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Argh, I had this post all typed out...

Anyway, I haven't posted in here much lately. Not much to say, I guess!
Kathryn, it sounds like you're feeling a little more comfortable with the idea of two kiddos. I was just thinking the past few days how gracious God is in *usually* giving only one baby at a time. I've been so exhausted the last couple of days (from working WAY too much) and was thinking "How on earth do women who already have children at home do this pregnancy thing?" I know you do what you have to. But at this point, I'm glad my dog and my husband are pretty self-sufficient.
I had my doctor's appointment today. I'm 33w2d. Time flies when you're having fun. I honestly don't even know what my weight was. I probably don't want to! I can tell I have a bit of water retention in my legs, feet, and toes! The baby was being a stinker with the doppler and moving all over, but the doctor and I could hear that the heartbeat was rather irregular. So she had me sit for an NST for over an hour. The heartrate was pretty consistently in the 150's, and there were some accelerations, but was still rather irregular. And I had quite a few contractions that I wouldn't have realized if I wasn't seeing them on the strip. Anyway, she said she's not worried but she wants me to do two NST's a week, and see her again next week instead of in two weeks. I know she was trying to make sure I wasn't worried either. I told her I'm pretty laid back in general and it takes a lot to get me worried...so if I really should be worried, she needs to let me know. I think dh is a little worried about it though, which is a little hard for me because he never worries about ANYthing. But he's hiding it well. It's fun to see that daddy protective side in him though- I know that's where the concern comes from. Tonight as I was feeling the baby move and playing/poking the baby he said "Be gentle with my baby! That's how it's poor heart probably got hurt...from poking my poor kid all the time!"
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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 8:38:58 AM   
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Eleni got to feel one kick this morning- she was so excited! Daddy hasn't felt this one yet- not much of a mover and shaker, but now big sis has

Purejoy- Ask for a biophysical profile including a good look at the placenta. My last daugher (happy, healthy 22 month old) was doing weird heart rate things for three weeks before an u/s found a hole in the placenta (which meant immediate induction)- she was fine and no worse for the wear, but the doc kept asking us to induce due to his "gut" and we resisted (being natural child birthers who thought he didn't want called at an inconvenient time)- now we know his "gut" was right and will listen to him more if anything happens this go round- not to scare you, just something that took awhile to find, and a test worth doing (if it were me)- again- she and I are absolutely fine, and actually once the pit kicked in and contrations were coming, her heart rate went right back to normal for her- she must have been ready

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 9:29:09 AM   
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Ok, I see. That makes sense. It's like there is understanding and grace for the newbie getting to know the 'family' until the newbie gets more acclimated. Does that make sense? And as I remember with Nadia, it was gradual. Things got better little by little. It wasn't like overnight things changed. That makes me feel better. It just takes time for babe to learn the family and for the family to learn the babe. Right?

yup....that's it!! Plus by 4 months babies are out of the newborn, floppy head, no control over their arms, etc stage. By then their personality is really shining through and it is easier to see how you can change little things here and there with them or with you.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 11:12:18 AM   
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Thanks for the info, Jennifer. I'm going to have to research it more today. As a nurse, I hear irregular heartbeats in adults all the time and it's not a big deal, so that's why I wasn't overly worried. But knowing my doctor and seeing how she was yesterday, and the fact that she's having me come in twice a week for NST's makes me want to research it more. I haven't heard of and would never have thought of a hole in the placenta.
How have you been feeling?
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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 11:14:58 AM   
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Yeah, definitely ask for a BPP. Gabby has some irregularities and we found out later that she had a true knot in her cord. Not something you want to mess with, and had they found it before she was born it would have been an automatic emergency C.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 11:18:25 AM   
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If I wait until Tuesday and bring it up to my doctor then, do you think that's ok? Or is this something I should be calling on today?
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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 11:57:30 AM   
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Well... I would call today, but I know two women who have lost full term babies and I don't mess with those kinda things. Ya know?

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 4:18:07 PM   
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Well, we went for our ultrasound today. I was nervous because of not being able to hear the heart beat. All was well. 2 arms, 2 legs, spine, head, etc... all there. It's my first ultrasound with my first baby so, needless to say I'm in awe of how amazing it is. There's this little one moving around and waving his/her arms. Turns out we're 15 weeks not 14. Due now on Feb. 5!

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 4:20:59 PM   
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Very pleased for you! What a relief!

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 4:55:57 PM   
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Well, we went for our ultrasound today. I was nervous because of not being able to hear the heart beat. All was well. 2 arms, 2 legs, spine, head, etc... all there. It's my first ultrasound with my first baby so, needless to say I'm in awe of how amazing it is. There's this little one moving around and waving his/her arms. Turns out we're 15 weeks not 14. Due now on Feb. 5!


Awesome!!! I had a sonogram at 12 weeks and it was the coolest thing ever I'd just had a miscarriage a few months earlier, so seeing the baby jumping around was a huge relief, not to mention unbelievably cool. Did they give you a copy of the picture? I still have mine on my refrigerator and my husband put the picture on his iPod touch so he can show it off proudly to anyone who mentions anything even remotely connected to babies

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 5:21:54 PM   
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Very pleased for you! What a relief!


Thanks! I'm very relieved that all was well. It was hard not to cry going in, and then even harder not to cry watching the baby move around!

I did get a picture - it's awesome! Emailed it out to family already. I don't know how to post it here... But it's awesome!

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 5:31:52 PM   
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Ok, I see. That makes sense. It's like there is understanding and grace for the newbie getting to know the 'family' until the newbie gets more acclimated. Does that make sense? And as I remember with Nadia, it was gradual. Things got better little by little. It wasn't like overnight things changed. That makes me feel better. It just takes time for babe to learn the family and for the family to learn the babe. Right?

yup....that's it!! Plus by 4 months babies are out of the newborn, floppy head, no control over their arms, etc stage. By then their personality is really shining through and it is easier to see how you can change little things here and there with them or with you.



Yup, that's it!!

We used Babywise as a VERY general guide. Basically all I took from it was to feed them (encouraging as big a feed as possible, which is hard at the beginning because they sleep so easily at the breast), keep them awake (also hard at the beginning!) and then sleep. So basically a feed/wake/sleep routine, except at night time just feed/sleep. This is how they learn the difference between day/night. I would also wake them (or try anyway!) during the day every 3 hrs (4 at the most!) if they weren't already. DD#1 was an a 2 hr cycle and slept 8 hrs at night by about 6 weeks old. DD#2 was more of a 3hr cycle and she slept 8 hrs at night by about 8 weeks old. DD#3 was also about 3 hr cycles, and slept about 11 hrs regularly by 5 months. Jacob also did 3 hr cycles (by now it's 4 hrs) and he's been sleeping through the night since about 2 months.

I ALWAYS fed the babies when they were hungry (that's why DD#1 had a 2 hr cycle), just really tried to encourage the feed/wake/sleep routine. SOMETIMES, when baby's wake after only a 45 min nap, they're actually still tired and just need a little help falling back asleep instead of needing to eat.

For nap times - we always adjusted that based on the new baby. Let's say normal nap time for the 2 yr old is 2 o'clock. If baby went down to sleep at 1 so did the 2 yr old! If baby went down to sleep at 2, so did the 2 yr old, and if baby went down to sleep at 3, so did the 2yr old! And the older ones had quiet time. I've almost always been able to have at least a short rest in the afternoon. Sometimes things happened of course, but doing it that way has always worked well for us.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 6:20:16 PM   
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Kara (Karaboo2) .......... edd August 15, 2008 (boy) …contact Kim
Megan (Yachaddm) ...... edd August 28, 2008 (boy) …contact Ryanne

Princess Donna ............ induction August 28, 2008 (surprise)…contacts Sandy and Sarah
Scarlett20 .................. edd September 17, 2008 (surprise) …home birth…contact SIL

MamaPyratekk ............. edd September 18, 2008 (girl)
Kathryn (HomeSpun) ..... edd September 24, 2008 (boy) …home birth …contact Sandy
PureJoy ...................... edd September 30, 2008 (surprise)
JoyfulWife ................... edd October 10, 2008 (surprise) …home birth…contact self
Heather (HMB22) .......... c-section October 13, 2008 (boy)
Restored_Heart (Amy) ... edd October 27, 2008 (girl)
Debbie (Jellybee) .......... edd November 12, 2008
AngieCat ..................... edd November 30, 2008 (girl)
Amy (Artemis) .............. edd December 14, 2008
SkillfullGourmet ............. edd December 30, 2008
Sideways (Ruth) ........... edd January 12, 2009
Room2Grow (Jennifer) .... edd January 20, 2009
TeachingforHim ............. edd February 5, 2009
ChelseaRae .................. edd April 1, 2009


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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/15/2008 6:38:40 PM   
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I would call today, so they can schedule a test- it can be quite a wait if it is a spur of the moment thing. As I said, I wouldn't worry too much unless the heart rate was 120's and especially lower than that (120 is the cutoff for "normal", but since yours is usually higher, I would be concerned, but not alarmed at that point). Also, the technical term, since you are a nurse, is placental abruption- in my case, it seemed to have healed itself by delivery, but it was between nickel and quarter size.

I have been doing a bit better- if we weren't leaving for home in ten days, I would try to step down the meds, but I don't want to mess with that so close to leaving (lowering dosage always makes me really sick for a day, then my body either adjusts or I go back up with the meds)

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/16/2008 11:31:15 AM   
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Would someone please tell me how I got so close to the top?
Wow it sure is *scary* how close my due date is coming! I've pretty much have everything I need for the home-birth and I have my hospital bag packed just in case we need to go there! My 36 week home visit will be sometime next week and then I guess it's anything goes after that .
I'm taking Bradley classes and complete it just 2 days before my due date, here's hoping I go that long as I'd really like to take in all the info I can!
At my 34 week appointment, the HB was in the 130's, my BP was 128/78 and weight gain was 32lbs!
I think just this week I'm really starting to retain some major water as my hands are starting to feel and look bigger and I also think I've developed a bit of carpel tunnel in my right (not pleasant, can totally not imagine dealing with that full-time) and according to my scale at home I've put on 4lbs since my last appointment !
I plan to take another photo of my huge self later on today and will hopefully post it right after that!
On a very humourous note I went to go get fitted for a nursing bra yesterday and the lady at the store measured me and said I should be wearing a 34D! I'm like you have to be kidding me, all the bras I have now are B's and even though I know they're too small, I don't think I've grown 2 cup sizes! Anyway I tried on C and that seemed to fit just fine so I went with that. Of course maybe by the time my milk comes in I will be a D but I just couldn't get my head around that enough to actually buy one just then .

(((purejoy))) - I hope everything is alright with you and your little one, the whole situation sounds somewhat unnerving. Please keep us posted on what's happening.

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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/16/2008 11:35:14 AM   
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Would someone please tell me how I got so close to the top?
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you're even closer now....Kara got kicked off last night (check out the other thread for her baby's stats!!!)


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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/16/2008 11:46:50 AM   
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RE: '08 Pregnancy support thread...part 3 - 8/16/2008 11:55:09 AM   
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You may very well need that D cup, hun...whether you want to admit it or not. I usually wore a C (occasionally D) cup prior to having my son. While nursing, I ended up in an F cup!

Megan, congrats on making the top of the list...so now it's a race between you and Donna. Scarlett & Mama are right behind y'all. Wow! Where is the time going? I was a newbie here when some of you found out you were expecting and your due dates are trucking right along too. We're still TTC...hope I'm able to join the list for 2009!
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